you can print from an Apple™ iPad™ - YuenglingJagr
Yeah, but then I'd have to buy an iPad and the other 8000 o-related devices because Apple.
Or I could just buy an actual book. Which is what I did.
wcorvette Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
I don't agree with you there. Filppula is a much better player than Lehtera is. - MJL
O I think Flip us too, I liked the Flip move last season but his confidence is shot, he ends up with his stick in the wrong lane, or just losing the puck on the PK. For what Lethera is he plays ok on PK, not who should be there but OK.
Maybe Flip is hurt
wcorvette Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
Hagg and MacDonald are a poor combination and we saw that again last night when they were dominated by the Devils. They're already in the negative in 5 on 5 GF/GA, and that's only going to get worse with the way they hemorrhage shot attempts. - Feanor
I dont understand, they have to be the best pair in the league at flipping the puck up the boards
Therefore, without any context whatsoever, your question yields an answer that indicates that MacDonald is a better defender than Provorov. - jmatchett383
Nope, 2nd best on the team at 1.7. Provorov is at 1.98. Have to look at every factor in context. MacDonald is being asked to play a lot of tough matchups with a rookie with a lot of D zone starts. MacDonald is not better than Provorov in any way. However if the Flyers are going to continue to use the Provorov Gostisbehere pairing as they are, then MacDonald is the best choice to anchor that defensive pairing in that deployment available.
Ghost got given his role due to being called up to replace one EXACT player. He had to fill that role which he did and did well. When they tried to expand his role he had issues and was sent to the Cote suite as penance.
Patrick has been handled as he has most likely because the team medical staff warned the management that he was going to have the recovery struggle like Ghost and G did last year so he languished on line 3 until he started to skate better. Then he was promoted recently to line 2 as his play improved. I see nothing wrong with his treatment. - dragonoffrost
Yes Ghost to his credit came up and filled that role better than anyone could imagine. That doesn't mean he's immune to any criticism for not taking care of business in his own end. How long did he spend in the press box last season? 3-5 games? How many shifts has he missed this year after he's made mistakes?
I also have no issues with how they've handled Patrick. It's another example of fair treatment of young players by the coach.
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA Joined: 06.26.2014
Feb 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
O I think Flip us too, I liked the Flip move last season but his confidence is shot, he ends up with his stick in the wrong lane, or just losing the puck on the PK. For what Lethera is he plays ok on PK, not who should be there but OK.
Nope, 2nd best on the team at 1.7. Provorov is at 1.98. Have to look at every factor in context. MacDonald is being asked to play a lot of tough matchups with a rookie with a lot of D zone starts. MacDonald is not better than Provorov in any way. However if the Flyers are going to continue to use the Prvorov Gostisbehere pairing as they are, then MacDonald is the best choice to anchor that defensive pairing in that deployment available. - MJL
Yes...like I said, it is lower than Provorov's. I don't see how that is a "Nope." And you question did not indicate anything about context, you simply asked which was lower. Looking solely at the numbers, a lower GA/60 would indicate a better defnesive player, no?
Yes...like I said, it is lower than Provorov's. I don't see how that is a "Nope." And you question did not indicate anything about context, you simply asked which was lower. Looking solely at the numbers, a lower GA/60 would indicate a better defnesive player, no? - jmatchett383
My fault, I mistook what you said. I don't think you can just look solely at numbers and say this player is a better defensive player.
The Flyers are stacking their best two defenseman on the same pairing and using them as much as possible in offensive situations with the best offensive players as much as possible.
They're using another pairing of MacDonald with an NHL rookie defenseman in heavy defensive zone starts against top lines as much as possible. That's just not going to create much offense.
I feel like they're about to sacrifice the damn thing. - jmatchett383
I think that's what it thinks, too. What other explanation could there be for grown men dressed in costumes, reading dumb poems, standing in front of an excited crowd, in the middle of winter, holding up a small animal?
I'll admit based on on Manning's performance since Sanheim was sent down, the coach and GM made the wrong decision, or decisions which lead to it. Unfortunately Hextall may hesitate to call him back up, not wanting to jerk around his development.
That being said, you're ignoring how Hakstol has handled young players when performance justifies it.
Konecny started his career as a second line LW but had his role diminished due to poor puck management. His puck management is still a work in progress but he holds an opportunity as the top line RW. He's thriving right now but if he struggles it's not out of the ordinary he should be removed from it.
Ghost was called up and almost immediately used as the top pp quarterback and trusted in critical game situations. Very rarely has he been held back from filling the role as the top offensive Dman on the team.
Patrick has probably gotten the most leway from him not losing his pp or top 9 role even when he failed to impact games as much as he should be in that role.
Its no secret NHL coaches covet consistency from young players. Getting that is a process. Just because some bumps along the road have resulted in a few scratches for each player doesn't mean Hakstol deserves no credit for their development. I know you hate giving him any credit for an elite Provorov so I'll refrain from using him as an example. - Baxter27
Given no credit? I said no such thing. There is without a doubt coaching that goes on behind the scenes.
Using your examples, what were the reasons they were removed from those roles? Konecny showed "poor puck management" Did time on the 4th line teach him to be better? He learned how to pass while being scratched? Or did a smart, young hockey player learn BY PLAYING what he can or can't do at the NHL level?
A coach has to try to win hockey games, so I completely understand younger players getting scratched at times or moved around the lineup. However, I like to see a reason behind it, and when guys like Manning and Lehtera are being used in place of younger players because they aren't "trusted" that is a problem. This coach takes that reason to extremes and there is a large amount of evidence that decisions are based on individual results rather than a process. Ghost only deserves a scratching when the pucks arent going in. Manning deserves to play because of an absurd on ice sv%
I won't just blindly support the decisions he makes just because he makes them. I want all of it to make sense. I don't think that is too much to ask for.
wcorvette Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 2 @ 2:29 PM ET
Getting dusted is ok? - SimmerDown17
dusted?
not sure what you mean but both players need to be upgraded, i was in context of what their limits are.
When Hakstol moved Konecny up the first line, the team saw great results. From the point of the end of the 10 game losing streak until recently the Flyers had one of the best records in the NHL over that period until the recent losing streak.
Hakstol recently move Patrick up in the lineup.
Hakstol does the same things when a players play warrants it. You just choose to not consider that I guess. We can't use Provorov because he doesn't count according to you.
It is your "opinion" that the Flyers couldn't possibly be right about it or develop the players the right way. That is fine. I disagree. - MJL
When you ignore the losses, the Flyers have one of the best records in the NHL!
love when you say stuff like this shortly after "he fired the first shot!" Comical. In the words of BiggE, "okie dokie"
