The PK is a team issue, not one player. It's been bad all season regardless of what personnel they use. I guess every one of those 6 goals is on Lehtera.
- MJL

Its a coaching issue. Playing Lehtera in high leverage situations shows how stupid the coaches are. Simple as that.

The PK was at 75% before Lehtera became a regular on 1/6/18. Since then it's at 69.7%, and Lehtera has been on the ice for 6 GA in 15 minutes.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...te,1&sort=penaltyKillPctg

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...te,1&sort=penaltyKillPctg

http://www.naturalstattri...te=n&v=g&playerid=8474627

Scott Laughton not being be used ahead of Lehtera on the PK is a disgrace. It's hurting his development as a player, and it's hurting the team.
- Feanor

Yet Lappy still has a job today, go figure.

The PK is a team issue, not one player. It's been bad all season regardless of what personnel they use. I guess every one of those 6 goals is on Lehtera.
- MJL

No one said Lehtera was the sole reason for those goals, that's hyperbole. At the same time, he does not seem to be an effective PK or PP player right now, and the decision to put him in those roles seems to be hurting the team. The PK was bad before he was on it, and has gotten worse since he's become a key contributor to it.

I thought that AMac especially was having trouble with clears all night long, but he's been pretty solid all season long. He's been a strong point for them defensively this season. Not an ideal PK guy, but he's been at least adequate for the better part of the year.

However, I'm not liking the AMac/Hagg pair, and I'm not thrilled with the Gudas/Manning pair either. I'd rather call up Sanheim and go Gudas/Hagg and AMac/Sanheim.
- jmatchett383

Works for me

1. Agreed

2. I'd much rather see Sanheim or even Myers before Alt. Alt is not an NHL Dman, I don't want him in the lineup unless it's an emergency.

3. Raffl is Raffl, he just doesn't have the hands and creative hockey sense to generate a lot of offense, but overall I agree, the bottom six looked a bit better.

4. Lindblom in and Lehtera out would be an improvement. No doubt about it.

5. I'd play Weise over Lehtera at this point, at least Weise can keep up with the play, but I'd rather see Lindblom over either. Hell, I'd bring up NAK and roll him on the 4th with Filppula and Leier before Lehtera and Weise at this point.

6. Without a doubt.
- BiggE

agreed but I think they will play Lethera until the trade deadline

thanks, guru
- YuenglingJagr

No one said Lehtera was the sole reason for those goals, that's hyperbole. At the same time, he does not seem to be an effective PK or PP player right now, and the decision to put him in those roles seems to be hurting the team. The PK was bad before he was on it, and has gotten worse since he's become a key contributor to it.
- jmatchett383

Schenn would of been much more useful for the Flyers

The contrast between Doug Pederson and Hakstol is fun to think about.

Big Richard Doug calling a flea-flicker in a huge spotlight to bury a team.

Haks tendency towards safe vets and D-men with safe styles. And this team's tendency to just try and sit on a lead rather than bury them.

No one said Lehtera was the sole reason for those goals, that's hyperbole. At the same time, he does not seem to be an effective PK or PP player right now, and the decision to put him in those roles seems to be hurting the team. The PK was bad before he was on it, and has gotten worse since he's become a key contributor to it.
- jmatchett383

Lehtera doesn't belong in an NHL lineup. He's a terrible skater, rarely plays with any physicality, can't shoot the puck worth a damn. Being a somewhat ok playmaker and a guy who can basically play his position at least on paper, is just not enough to be an NHL player these days. Sorry Hexy, he's not VLC. At least VLC was legit hall of famer who still possessed a wicked shot, wasn't afraid to mix it up and could be effective on the pp. Lehtera is useless, no one is going to trade you for him unless you both eat half the contract and part with an asset to make him go away. Just bite the bullet and waive him already. Let him be a healthy scratch at LHV.

Lehtera doesn't belong in an NHL lineup. He's a terrible skater, rarely plays with any physicality, can't shoot the puck worth a damn. Being a somewhat ok playmaker and a guy who can basically play his position at least on paper, is just not enough to be an NHL player these days. Sorry Hexy, he's not VLC. At least VLC was legit hall of famer who still possessed a wicked shot, wasn't afraid to mix it up and could be effective on the pp. Lehtera is useless, no one is going to trade you for him unless you both eat half the contract and part with an asset to make him go away. Just bite the bullet and waive him already. Let him be a healthy scratch at LHV.
- BiggE

Lehtera doesn't belong in an NHL lineup. He's a terrible skater, rarely plays with any physicality, can't shoot the puck worth a damn. Being a somewhat ok playmaker and a guy who can basically play his position at least on paper, is just not enough to be an NHL player these days. Sorry Hexy, he's not VLC. At least VLC was legit hall of famer who still possessed a wicked shot, wasn't afraid to mix it up and could be effective on the pp. Lehtera is useless, no one is going to trade you for him unless you both eat half the contract and part with an asset to make him go away. Just bite the bullet and waive him already. Let him be a healthy scratch at LHV.
- BiggE

Its amazing to watch him play, and remember he was a 1C at one point

Schenn would of been much more useful for the Flyers
- YuenglingJagr

True, terrible 1-for-1 swap.

True, terrible 1-for-1 swap.
- jmatchett383

Irreplaceable production is hard to replace.

Its amazing to watch him play, and remember he was a 1C at one point
- JFlyers00

Tarasenko carried him a lot, but yeah, a few years ago, he could still kind of keep up and be an effective C with the right wingers. However, in his best year, playing on a top line and getting big minutes, he only put up 14 goals and 44 points. He's probably lost half a step since then and he's a guy who can't afford to lose any fraction of a step and still be successful.

Its amazing to watch him play, and remember he was a 1C at one point
- JFlyers00

He's a poor man's Jonathan Cheechoo.

Irreplaceable production is hard to replace.
- Scoob

Easy to replace him. Just trade half of the roster for Austen Matthews.

Easy to replace him. Just trade half of the roster for Austen Matthews.
- jmatchett383

and his mom

Again, we are back to you being unable to admit that the Flyers coaches are making suboptimal lineup decisions. Even when presented with overwhelming evidence.

Lehtera has had twice as much SH TOI as Laughton in the past month, and the PK has suffered accordingly. Yes, it needs a new coach and a new approach, but that doesn't mean the personnel choices don't matter.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ed,gte,1&sort=shTimeOnIce
- Feanor

No, we're back again to you not realizing that the coach only has the players on the roster to choose from and that some players simply have to play better. We're also back again to scapegoating players for all of the Flyers issues. The Flyers have used Laughton as one of the top PK forwards all season along with other players. The Flyers PK hasn't been good all season. Personnel changes have been made and that hasn't worked either but it's not about one player, it is a team issue. You have clear bias against this coach.

No, we're back again to you not realizing that the coach only has the players on the roster to choose from and that some players simply have to play better. We're also back again to scapegoating players for all of the Flyers issues. The Flyers have used Laughton as one of the top PK forwards all season along with other players. The Flyers PK hasn't been good all season. Personnel changes have been made and that hasn't worked either but it's not about one player, it is a team issue. You have clear bias against this coach.
- MJL

You have a clear bias in support of the coach. You did the same with Berube. You defended him constantly until the day he was fired. Then you claimed that firing him was absolutely the right move to make.

You really have no credibility, you just like to argue.

The problem is the coach refuses to put Gudas with Hagg, and MacDonald with Sanheim, which would mean the bottom two pairings both had one good possession defenseman to pick up the slack from their partner.
- Feanor

If they're going to use Hagg a lot against top lines as they have then MacDonald is the better choice to pair with Hagg in that situation. The Flyers right now need to use MacDonald in a bigger role then they would be able to if he was paired with Sanheim. There is no perfect lineup for this team where there wouldn't be issues. It's not about the coaching decisions, it's about the available talent.

and his mom
- YuenglingJagr

I'd trade the whole roster for his mom...just sayin.....

You have a clear bias in support of the coach. You did the same with Berube. You defended him constantly until the day he was fired. Then you claimed that firing him was absolutely the right move to make.

You really have no credibility, you just like to argue.
- BiggE

This response doesn't give you any credibility whatsoever. You're making it personal instead of about the team. My opinions are objective based on the reality of the situation. I criticize when I think it's appropriate, and support a player or coach when I think it's appropriate. What you think about that doesn't mean jack to me.

This response doesn't give you any credibility whatsoever. You're making it personal instead of about the team. My opinions are objective based on the reality of the situation. I criticize when I think it's appropriate, and support a player or coach when I think it's appropriate. What you think about that doesn't mean jack to me.
- MJL

Must mean something, or you wouldn't have responded. However, if your post is truthful, then thank you for proving me correct. You only responded to perpetuate an argument with me.

I said Gudas is a liability, he is brain dead. Hakstol is still the second worst coach in the nhl and having a good coach would make a difference in many areas, especially the penalty kill. Coma man Hextall and Hakstol are responsible for Lappy not getting the job done. When people do not get the job done there usually are consequences, except not in Philly where nothing really changes. Coma Man needs to fire Hakstol before somebody fires them both. Just can not bother watching this management gong show. The only thing I give Hakstol credit for is moving Couter to line one and G to left wing. Other than that it is a gong show.

I'd trade the whole roster for his mom...just sayin.....
- BiggE

she can play D

[shows self out]