I said Gudas is a liability, he is brain dead. Hakstol is still the second worst coach in the nhl and having a good coach would make a difference in many areas, especially the penalty kill. Coma man Hextall and Hakstol are responsible for Lappy not getting the job done. When people do not get the job done there usually are consequences, except not in Philly where nothing really changes. Coma Man needs to fire Hakstol before somebody fires them both. Just can not bother watching this management gong show. The only thing I give Hakstol credit for is moving Couter to line one and G to left wing. Other than that it is a gong show.
- joegreif17

joegreif17, welcome back

This response doesn't give you any credibility whatsoever. You're making it personal instead of about the team. My opinions are objective based on the reality of the situation. I criticize when I think it's appropriate, and support a player or coach when I think it's appropriate. What you think about that doesn't mean jack to me.
- MJL

Your just like Hakstol and Coma man Hextall, nothing ever changes and you are so annoying, honestly.

No one said Lehtera was the sole reason for those goals, that's hyperbole. At the same time, he does not seem to be an effective PK or PP player right now, and the decision to put him in those roles seems to be hurting the team. The PK was bad before he was on it, and has gotten worse since he's become a key contributor to it.
- jmatchett383

The posters response was clearly focused on one player as the issue. In response to that, it's not hyperbole. I look at each goal and see where the breakdown was. The Flyers gave up two PP GA last night but Lehtera was not the culprit on either goal in my opinion. Yet the focus today is not on a save not being made that should've been made or sticks not in the correct position. The Flyers PK issues are due to a multitude of issues. I will never support scapegoating one player and singling him out when a problem is team wide. That's just lazy and biased. I'm fine with including Lehters as part of the problem which is reasonable.

Must mean something, or you wouldn't have responded. However, if your post is truthful, then thank you for proving me correct. You only responded to perpetuate an argument with me.
- BiggE

You fired the first shot!

The contrast between Doug Pederson and Hakstol is fun to think about.

Big Richard Doug calling a flea-flicker in a huge spotlight to bury a team.

Haks tendency towards safe vets and D-men with safe styles. And this team's tendency to just try and sit on a lead rather than bury them.
- JFlyers00

You’re onto something here.

Although football and hockey are vastly different sports, it’s still an interesting comparison to make between the two coaches.

One is a progressive thinker that gameplans for each team accordingly and takes risks. This is especially apparent on fourth down situations. Doug Pederson, correctly, will go for it on manageable yardage situations when on the opponents side of the field. The old way of thinking, aka coaching safe or nutless monkey coaching, punts in that situation. Doug also stays aggressive when the team has a lead, or at the tail end of a half.

On the other hand, we have Hakstol, who despite being a nhl outsider and younger guy, adheres to the old rigid nutless monkey method of coaching. He prefers consistency and safety to taking risks and being progressive.

It may serve him well in his future job search since it will gain him access to the good old boy hockey club that brings their lunch pail to work everyday, but it’s ultimately an outdated method of coaching that is especially harmful to a young transitioning team like the Flyers.

No, we're back again to you not realizing that the coach only has the players on the roster to choose from and that some players simply have to play better. We're also back again to scapegoating players for all of the Flyers issues. The Flyers have used Laughton as one of the top PK forwards all season along with other players. The Flyers PK hasn't been good all season. Personnel changes have been made and that hasn't worked either but it's not about one player, it is a team issue. You have clear bias against this coach.
- MJL

I think this quote below by Feanor negates what you are saying bolded above. It is absolutely a terrible use of personnel to give Lehtera more PK time than Laughton.

"Lehtera has had twice as much SH TOI as Laughton in the past month, and the PK has suffered accordingly."

joegreif17, welcome back
- YuenglingJagr

Thanks man, after 40 years of Flyers rule my life, I made some major changes. I no longer have Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Gost, Couter, Elliot, Neuvirth, Sanheim, Weal on my keeper league of 39 years now. But I do have Marchand, Pastrnak and Bergeron, I do have Schenn (my fav flyer prior) Schwartz and Tarasenko. Most of that came with the trading of all my flyers. The reason I did it was frustration with MJL, Coma man Hextall and Braindead Hakstol. I still follow because I will always be a Flyers diehard but at least my fantasy team does not suffer because of them.

The contrast between Doug Pederson and Hakstol is fun to think about.

Big Richard Doug calling a flea-flicker in a huge spotlight to bury a team.

Haks tendency towards safe vets and D-men with safe styles. And this team's tendency to just try and sit on a lead rather than bury them.
- JFlyers00

By far the two defenseman with the most ice time is Provorov and Gostisbehere. Are they D men with safe styles?

You fired the first shot!
- MJL

That has nothing to do with it. My premise was you respond simply to argue and, apparently, you also have a pressing need to get in the last word. Very interesting, very interesting indeed.

You’re onto something here.

Although football and hockey are vastly different sports, it’s still an interesting comparison to make between the two coaches.

One is a progressive thinker that gameplans for each team accordingly and takes risks. This is especially apparent on fourth down situations. Doug Pederson, correctly, will go for it on manageable yardage situations when on the opponents side of the field. The old way of thinking, aka coaching safe or nutless monkey coaching, punts in that situation. Doug also stays aggressive when the team has a lead, or at the tail end of a half.

On the other hand, we have Hakstol, who despite being a nhl outsider and younger guy, adheres to the old rigid nutless monkey method of coaching. He prefers consistency and safety to taking risks and being progressive.

It may serve him well in his future job search since it will gain him access to the good old boy hockey club that brings their lunch pail to work everyday, but it’s ultimately an outdated method of coaching that is especially harmful to a young transitioning team like the Flyers.
- StepfordSam

Thank you, I agree totally! Hakstol gets no respect from me or any others in the nhl,

You’re onto something here.

Although football and hockey are vastly different sports, it’s still an interesting comparison to make between the two coaches.

One is a progressive thinker that gameplans for each team accordingly and takes risks. This is especially apparent on fourth down situations. Doug Pederson, correctly, will go for it on manageable yardage situations when on the opponents side of the field. The old way of thinking, aka coaching safe or nutless monkey coaching, punts in that situation. Doug also stays aggressive when the team has a lead, or at the tail end of a half.

On the other hand, we have Hakstol, who despite being a nhl outsider and younger guy, adheres to the old rigid nutless monkey method of coaching. He prefers consistency and safety to taking risks and being progressive.

It may serve him well in his future job search since it will gain him access to the good old boy hockey club that brings their lunch pail to work everyday, but it’s ultimately an outdated method of coaching that is especially harmful to a young transitioning team like the Flyers.
- StepfordSam

Nutless monkey, I like that.

you just like to argue.
- BiggE

To be fair, this applies to a not insignificant number of participants here.

I think this quote below by Feanor negates what you are saying bolded above. It is absolutely a terrible use of personnel to give Lehtera more PK time than Laughton.

"Lehtera has had twice as much SH TOI as Laughton in the past month, and the PK has suffered accordingly."
- Fryman4

The Flyers PK was at the bottom of the league for pretty much the entire season with Laughton. Switching personnel around is not a terrible use of personnel. I think there is a case to be made that the changes they've made are not an improvement and it's going backwards but I don't think it's fair or reasonable to pin that on Lehtera.

You have a clear bias in support of the coach. You did the same with Berube. You defended him constantly until the day he was fired. Then you claimed that firing him was absolutely the right move to make.

You really have no credibility, you just like to argue.
- BiggE

I approve this Message.

Thanks man, after 40 years of Flyers rule my life, I made some major changes. I no longer have Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Gost, Couter, Elliot, Neuvirth, Sanheim, Weal on my keeper league of 39 years now. But I do have Marchand, Pastrnak and Bergeron, I do have Schenn (my fav flyer prior) Schwartz and Tarasenko. Most of that came with the trading of all my flyers. The reason I did it was frustration with MJL, Coma man Hextall and Braindead Hakstol. I still follow because I will always be a Flyers diehard but at least my fantasy team does not suffer because of them.
- joegreif17

truly a heartwarming story

That has nothing to do with it. My premise was you respond simply to argue and, apparently, you also have a pressing need to get in the last word. Very interesting, very interesting indeed.
- BiggE

MJL is the most ignorant, misinformed person I know besides Hakstol, imo

I approve this Message.

- landros 2

I second the motion

To be fair, this applies to a not insignificant number of participants here.
- Scoob

That is true, but one in particular seems to take it to another level.

I think this quote below by Feanor negates what you are saying bolded above. It is absolutely a terrible use of personnel to give Lehtera more PK time than Laughton.

"Lehtera has had twice as much SH TOI as Laughton in the past month, and the PK has suffered accordingly."
- Fryman4

It makes no sense.....but fear not...only a few more failures of Filpula- lehtera and we will hopefully not see them on the PK again. If they miss the playoff's look no further then the PK results. As many suggest, they are a bubble team with some weak links....the special teams battle is not one they can afford to lose.

To be fair, this applies to a not insignificant number of participants here.
- Scoob

You being the number one participant, imo some of your views are severely fracked up and now you want to be a peace maker, go jump off a bridge man.

https://www.broadstreetho...kill-analysis-adjustments

Great write up on the PK from 2016. It seems to me it doesn't matter what strategy they use on the PK, the players just aren't getting it done. I wonder if Lappy has full freedom to pick his players or if Hak tells him what he has to work with?

You’re onto something here.

Although football and hockey are vastly different sports, it’s still an interesting comparison to make between the two coaches.

One is a progressive thinker that gameplans for each team accordingly and takes risks. This is especially apparent on fourth down situations. Doug Pederson, correctly, will go for it on manageable yardage situations when on the opponents side of the field. The old way of thinking, aka coaching safe or nutless monkey coaching, punts in that situation. Doug also stays aggressive when the team has a lead, or at the tail end of a half.

On the other hand, we have Hakstol, who despite being a nhl outsider and younger guy, adheres to the old rigid nutless monkey method of coaching. He prefers consistency and safety to taking risks and being progressive.

It may serve him well in his future job search since it will gain him access to the good old boy hockey club that brings their lunch pail to work everyday, but it’s ultimately an outdated method of coaching that is especially harmful to a young transitioning team like the Flyers.
- StepfordSam

I think your comments on Hakstol have some merit.....I really believe that's why they added Kris Knoblauch this year to have that guy who is more of a think outside the box guy.

https://www.broadstreetho...kill-analysis-adjustments

Great write up on the PK from 2016. It seems to me it doesn't matter what strategy they use on the PK, the players just aren't getting it done. I wonder if Lappy has full freedom to pick his players or if Hak tells him what he has to work with?
- SimmerDown17

This is a good question, doubt we'll ever know the truth.

Go figure..you and the rest of TN were pretty much absent for the past 20 games but now its the "team he neglected"
- opeth_pa

What has he done to improve the flyers? The nhl team he is the gm of?

Looks like he has drafted well, stocked the farm, cap wise ok. His moves to help the the flyers Have been almost non existent

On the other hand, we have Hakstol, who despite being a nhl outsider and younger guy, adheres to the old rigid nutless monkey method of coaching. He prefers consistency and safety to taking risks and being progressive.
- StepfordSam

I disagree on the safety thing. One of Hak's hallmarks is having defense step up in the play. I've seen Provorov go up to the slot on several occasions.

“He [Hakstol] definitely wants to see us jumping up in the play more,” Gostisbehere said. “We’re definitely a five-man unit out there and not just forwards and defense. It is something that is working for us right now.