Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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The Jets one i see as a grey area and really have no problem with, its not great to get a stick in the face but I dont see it as situation where Hellybuck was unable to make the save . The Blues/Bruins one, I have no idea how thats a goal, seems like the exact situation the challenge exists in the first place. The NHL need to start explaining some of these, its become a joke. |
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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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The Jets one i see as a grey area and really have no problem with, its not great to get a stick in the face but I dont see it as situation where Hellybuck was unable to make the save . The Blues/Bruins one, I have no idea how thats a goal, seems like the exact situation the challenge exists in the first place. The NHL need to start explaining some of these, its become a joke. - 13sundin13
As a goalie, the slash to the mask takes me out of the play. You can't focus on the puck anymore because you are distracted by the stick to the head.
The explanations they put out are almost a bigger joke in a way. They strike me as someone telling you because I said so. It's like me saying the sky is green. Saying I'll review my photos and then saying yep, the sky is green. |
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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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And to answer some, yes, Allen played the Spooner situation poorly. He stood up and gave up which is the worst possible thing to do. He has to immediately try and fight through them to get to the crease, create as much contact and mayhem as possible. Really exacerbate the interference by creating more.
You always try to sell the call whether that is celebrating a close play as a goal, sliding your legs and pads out of the net so toronto can't see if the puck was over the line, to making the high stick more obvious by snapping your head back.
Having said that, his reaction didn't surprise me. |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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As a goalie, the slash to the mask takes me out of the play. You can't focus on the puck anymore because you are distracted by the stick to the head.
The explanations they put out are almost a bigger joke in a way. They strike me as someone telling you because I said so. It's like me saying the sky is green. Saying I'll review my photos and then saying yep, the sky is green. - Jason Millen
Oh yeah, that totally makes sense but is it interference? The puck was loose and Hellybuck thought he had it when he got clipped when in fact it was loose at his feet. It's a grey area to me, if it was called back I wouldn't have been surprised either, but a call had to be made and I thought that was fine. |
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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Oh yeah, that totally makes sense but is it interference? The puck was loose and Hellybuck thought he had it when he got clipped when in fact it was loose at his feet. It's a grey area to me, if it was called back I wouldn't have been surprised either, but a call had to be made and I thought that was fine. - 13sundin13
Call the actual slash as a penalty for slashing and you don't have to worry about whether or not it's interference. To me calling it incidental goalie interference is a compromise to not calling the slash as a penalty but I'm biased as a goalie. |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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Call the actual slash as a penalty for slashing and you don't have to worry about whether or not it's interference. To me calling it incidental goalie interference is a compromise to not calling the slash as a penalty but I'm biased as a goalie. - Jason Millen
Yeah thats true, if it went down like that I would have been fine with that too. It was a coin toss for me. |
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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Yeah thats true, if it went down like that I would have been fine with that too. It was a coin toss for me. - 13sundin13
In a way this stuff is worse in beer league play that I participate in as the guys have terrible hand-eye coordination relative to the pros. They swing wildly at pucks in the air, miss and hit the goalies all the time. It gets really annoying especially when you get hit in a more vulnerable spot and it still doesn't get called or even warned. |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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In a way this stuff is worse in beer league play that I participate in as the guys have terrible hand-eye coordination relative to the pros. They swing wildly at pucks in the air, miss and hit the goalies all the time. It gets really annoying especially when you get hit in a more vulnerable spot and it still doesn't get called or even warned. - Jason Millen
Yeah for sure, beer league is horrible for people wildly swinging their sticks. |
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Yeah I was really confused after they called it a good goal I was almost certain it was going to get waived off.
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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That call was a total embarrassment to the league. At least Armstrong risked a fine by calling out the league that if that isn't goalie interference, he has no idea what the rules are anymore. |
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Confidenceking77
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Confidence Capital, BC Joined: 12.24.2017
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As a goalie, the slash to the mask takes me out of the play. You can't focus on the puck anymore because you are distracted by the stick to the head.
The explanations they put out are almost a bigger joke in a way. They strike me as someone telling you because I said so. It's like me saying the sky is green. Saying I'll review my photos and then saying yep, the sky is green. - Jason Millen
Typical goalies always crying about any simple contact. Fact of the matter is the refs know they can't stop the juggernaut that is the Vegas Golden Knights so why call the goal back?
All joking aside that one should have been called either a slash, or high sticking and the second the Knights touch the puck the whistle should have blown. Not sure they can review missed stick infractions though, and I am sure the refs realized they (frank)ed upon as soon as they saw the replay.
The league screwed themselves the last few weeks with their lack of consistency regarding these calls and now they are in damage control mode. |
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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Just put this on the long list of unexplained phenomenon.
Rules are rules, refs are refs. I think it's a matter of decisions made will be looked at similar to calls, you get some you don't get some - IT ALL EVENS OUT IN THE END!
Which is absolute bullpoop! It's so common it's part of the game now.
Ask the resident retired referee his opinion & if he says it's no goal, get him to give some type of explanation on how the process works. |
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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues |
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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That was the first time I saw the play. I have no idea in the world how that was called a goal. I'm shocked there was not an actual interference call made on the play.
Wow.
Watching the Sabres game I just do not know what penalties are any longer. The Blues got away with two obvious penalties. The Sabres did as well but geesh. Is that the NHL subtlely making up for Boston?
It's a good time to learn to fight through it as it will only get worse.
Hutton was the Blues best penalty killer again and look they squeak out a win. Hutton really has grown and Armstrong looks like a genius for that signing. All of us were shocked by it at the time. |
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Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Ekland, MO Joined: 04.20.2009
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Okay boys, Nick Foles just won the Super Bowl so it turns out anything is possible and maybe this is the year after all. |
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