Beating what system Jesus Christ you take this site WAY too seriously. You understand when people talk hockey with me, I'm cool and don't say dumb poop. It's when you start insulting me that I intentionally annoy the poop out of you people because it's hilarious how serious you take this site.

And maybe if certain people weren't Richards to me, the purge wouldn't have happened. I obviously take full responsibility for my actions but goddamn, a person can only take so much berating before they snap. Did you know everyone that went to HSF was actually going to purge the site again on opening night in 2015? I said no because I thought it was a dumb idea. Jero ratted everyone out and that's when everyone lost their account

Also you know how easy it is to create an alt? It used to be a lot harder and I actually showed the person who you're referring too.
- Jailbait

Opening Night was still done. Just on RCs site with coon porn.

Opening Night was still done. Just on RCs site with coon porn.
- RafiDRW

Done with this idiot. Period. Gìven one chance after another to explain or apologize or anything of the manor. I was around for years before I registered, just kind of observed. Got a chuckle. Enjoyed seeing others input. Seeing how ignorant this kid is...

Opening Night was still done. Just on RCs site with coon porn.
- RafiDRW

Strangely he took down his comment section

Done with this idiot. Period. Gìven one chance after another to explain or apologize or anything of the manor. I was around for years before I registered, just kind of observed. Got a chuckle. Enjoyed seeing others input. Seeing how ignorant this kid is...
- wreckage

JB is weird. I enjoy talking to him on his nonspaz days but he skews poop pretty bad and has those lapses into why I join the (frank) off movement.

Strangely he took down his comment section
- Reveen.

He still doesn’t respond to my tweets, emails or Facebook inquiries.

Tanner thread. Troll back up please?

Tanner thread. Troll back up please?
- RafiDRW

Tanner is a demented, self-loathing cuck... Why even bother with him?

Tanner is a demented, self-loathing cuck... Why even bother with him?
- laughs2907

Because..... it’s Tanner? Why watch the Oilers from 2007-2016? Because it’s what we do.

So, Bobby Nick had hinted they’ve made too many coach and GM changes lately. I’m so sorry guys.

So, Bobby Nick had hinted they’ve made too many coach and GM changes lately. I’m so sorry guys.
- RafiDRW

If Todd doesn't get fired, at least his assistants should be. And failing that, they'd better have a (frank)ing revolutionary change in special teams and defensive philosophy.

Because..... it’s Tanner? Why watch the Oilers from 2007-2016? Because it’s what we do.
- RafiDRW

I just watched to see us compete for the draft lottery year in and year out.

If Todd doesn't get fired, at least his assistants should be. And failing that, they'd better have a (frank)ing revolutionary change in special teams and defensive philosophy.
- MaximumBone

If Todd's assistants aren't fired after this season, they must have incriminating photos of the Katz family.

If Todd doesn't get fired, at least his assistants should be. And failing that, they'd better have a (frank)ing revolutionary change in special teams and defensive philosophy.
- MaximumBone

Play every game away?

But yeah, our special teams is horrible. Talbot would have a much better save percentage if we didn't allow a goal every two powerplays at home

If Todd's assistants aren't fired after this season, they must have incriminating photos of the Katz family.
- laughs2907

Chances are they'll just do the old "cabinet reshuffle" and add another assistant over the offseason to give the illusion of change. We'll likely see some degree of improvement in the team's results if only by virtue of regression of their special teams to a more normal level. It's already happening for the home PK lately and the PP is bound to bounce back.

Of course that won't solve the fundamental problems that face the team as that would require that they recognize the problems which- based off verbal, visual and tangible results- they don't.

They failed to adapt their breakout system to a league that has grown faster and more aggressive instead falling further back into their "off-the-wall-and-out" tactics instead of swinging the forwards back more to support the transition.

They failed to adapt their defensive systems that worked the year before to reflect the league-wide move in forecheck and attack zone positioning philosophy. This has resulted in the team often chasing the puck down in their own zone after a rim around clear attempt (which are usually enacted as an effort to get the puck to man on the way out of zone).

Even more often, they're not defending the high danger areas and lanes with the type of commitment that they did last year. It was easy to see early in the year that far too many passes and players were getting past the our "box" and destroying our structure. I maintain that this is a direct result of their system keeping wingers stapled up high and close to the boards ready to receive the McLellan brand of rim arounds and off the glass passes. Earlier in the season, the C was up too high as well, but they've since made an adjustment in that regard.

Another problem I've noticed lately more than ever is that lines seem unclear on which forward should be the down-low guy. First man back is great and all as it spreads defensive responsibility, but it becomes an issue when two Cs play on the same line and get caught either both being down low or neither being down-low. This was pretty evident on a goal earlier in the week where people were blaming Russell when McDavid was late to find a man and was caught coasting.

The PP is fixable as long as they just look around the league and even within their own team. The 2nd unit often brings more pressure than the 1st unit because they're not afraid to just rip it on net and chase the rebound. They're more fluid and are structured around their QB (Nuge) in having more RH shooting options for him to use. If they're going to insist on having mostly LH shots on the top unit, they need to adjust and throw Connor on the left half wall so as to open up more one time options for him. A lot of other teams have successful units with players playing their strong side. Alternatively, make an adjustment to who you have on each unit so as to spread out the RH shots.

Either run it like this

Strome (back door)- Khaira (net front)- Draisaitl (one-time)
McDavid (QB)- Klefbom (one-time)

Or this

Strome & Draisaitl (rotating bumper, net front)- McDavid (QB)
Aberg/Slepyshev (one time, simple shooter)- Klefbom

With the 2nd unit running the following with the same roles as the second option applied to each position.

Slepy/Aberg & Khaira/Lucic- Nuge
Puljujarvi- Nurse/Sekera

The key point being that they need more movement on the man advantage than they've had this year. Regardless of the structure, if they can't move fluidly within it, it's gonna be too rigid and succumb to being too easy to counter.

EDIT: My posts are too long; deal with it

Play every game away?

But yeah, our special teams is horrible. Talbot would have a much better save percentage if we didn't allow a goal every two powerplays at home
- Jailbait

It was brought up earlier in this thread whether people thought it was just Talbot being awful or if it was the defense and it's obviously a combination of both, but why do systems never get factored into the equation? The proportion of quality of chances levied against a goalie relative to the overall number of shots is obviously going to affect his save percentage and it's evident when you watch more than one team that their are some teams who are coached in a way that allows more chances from the more dangerous spots on the ice. This season's Oilers are a prime example.

This idea is seen in an exaggerated form on the PK. The way a team is structured and taught to react to certain occurrences influences how well the high slot and net front are defended. If the team is taught to over-commit and be aggressive at any sign of a bobbling puck for example, they'll leave openings for high-skill plays to be made; plays that will often penetrate the middle of the ice (whether they be high slot shots, seam passes, cross-ice one time saucers, etc).

Players with applicable skillsets (speed, threat recognition, stick checking, board battles, etc) will execute given methods better than those lacking in the requisite fields so it's up to the coach to come up with his system, identify what skills are needed to execute that system and adjust his personnel based on that. This is where I think Todd and his staff falls short. They have a system that worked to an average level (lower-mid tier) last year, but were unable to recognize who their best PKers were (Pouliot, Pitlick with Hendricks doing solid, too) and what made them successful within the confines of their strategy.

As a result, they came into the year unprepared and lacking in PK forwards that fit their needs and instead relied on whoever was left in guys like Letestu, Caggiula and Jokinen and inexperienced PKers in McDavid and Draisaitl. The former two were among the team's worst in chances against/60 on the PK last year and yet were counted on as linchpins to the PK from the outset. It's no wonder it all fell apart early. It led to an increase in PP goals against early on leading to Talbot's confidence being shaken which in turn led to more goals against overall which led to a greater focus on defending which led to fewer goals for which led to an over-correction on the PP and so on and so on.

It's honestly my belief that this year's failures are almost all linked to what happened to the PK. Honestly exploring how it fell apart shows us that neither the coaching staff nor management value or consult empirical evidence in their decision-making processes nearly enough.

Chances are they'll just do the old "cabinet reshuffle" and add another assistant over the offseason to give the illusion of change. We'll likely see some degree of improvement in the team's results if only by virtue of regression of their special teams to a more normal level. It's already happening for the home PK lately and the PP is bound to bounce back.

Of course that won't solve the fundamental problems that face the team as that would require that they recognize the problems which- based off verbal, visual and tangible results- they don't.

They failed to adapt their breakout system to a league that has grown faster and more aggressive instead falling further back into their "off-the-wall-and-out" tactics instead of swinging the forwards back more to support the transition.

They failed to adapt their defensive systems that worked the year before to reflect the league-wide move in forecheck and attack zone positioning philosophy. This has resulted in the team often chasing the puck down in their own zone after a rim around clear attempt (which are usually enacted as an effort to get the puck to man on the way out of zone).

Even more often, they're not defending the high danger areas and lanes with the type of commitment that they did last year. It was easy to see early in the year that far too many passes and players were getting past the our "box" and destroying our structure. I maintain that this is a direct result of their system keeping wingers stapled up high and close to the boards ready to receive the McLellan brand of rim arounds and off the glass passes. Earlier in the season, the C was up too high as well, but they've since made an adjustment in that regard.

Another problem I've noticed lately more than ever is that lines seem unclear on which forward should be the down-low guy. First man back is great and all as it spreads defensive responsibility, but it becomes an issue when two Cs play on the same line and get caught either both being down low or neither being down-low. This was pretty evident on a goal earlier in the week where people were blaming Russell when McDavid was late to find a man and was caught coasting.

The PP is fixable as long as they just look around the league and even within their own team. The 2nd unit often brings more pressure than the 1st unit because they're not afraid to just rip it on net and chase the rebound. They're more fluid and are structured around their QB (Nuge) in having more RH shooting options for him to use. If they're going to insist on having mostly LH shots on the top unit, they need to adjust and throw Connor on the left half wall so as to open up more one time options for him. A lot of other teams have successful units with players playing their strong side. Alternatively, make an adjustment to who you have on each unit so as to spread out the RH shots.

Either run it like this

Strome (back door)- Khaira (net front)- Draisaitl (one-time)
McDavid (QB)- Klefbom (one-time)

Or this

Strome & Draisaitl (rotating bumper, net front)- McDavid (QB)
Aberg/Slepyshev (one time, simple shooter)- Klefbom

With the 2nd unit running the following with the same roles as the second option applied to each position.

Slepy/Aberg & Khaira/Lucic- Nuge
Puljujarvi- Nurse/Sekera

The key point being that they need more movement on the man advantage than they've had this year. Regardless of the structure, if they can't move fluidly within it, it's gonna be too rigid and succumb to being too easy to counter.

EDIT: My posts are too long; deal with it
- MaximumBone

Thanks Hallfan!

It was brought up earlier in this thread whether people thought it was just Talbot being awful or if it was the defense and it's obviously a combination of both, but why do systems never get factored into the equation? The proportion of quality of chances levied against a goalie relative to the overall number of shots is obviously going to affect his save percentage and it's evident when you watch more than one team that their are some teams who are coached in a way that allows more chances from the more dangerous spots on the ice. This season's Oilers are a prime example.

This idea is seen in an exaggerated form on the PK. The way a team is structured and taught to react to certain occurrences influences how well the high slot and net front are defended. If the team is taught to over-commit and be aggressive at any sign of a bobbling puck for example, they'll leave openings for high-skill plays to be made; plays that will often penetrate the middle of the ice (whether they be high slot shots, seam passes, cross-ice one time saucers, etc).

Players with applicable skillsets (speed, threat recognition, stick checking, board battles, etc) will execute given methods better than those lacking in the requisite fields so it's up to the coach to come up with his system, identify what skills are needed to execute that system and adjust his personnel based on that. This is where I think Todd and his staff falls short. They have a system that worked to an average level (lower-mid tier) last year, but were unable to recognize who their best PKers were (Pouliot, Pitlick with Hendricks doing solid, too) and what made them successful within the confines of their strategy.

As a result, they came into the year unprepared and lacking in PK forwards that fit their needs and instead relied on whoever was left in guys like Letestu, Caggiula and Jokinen and inexperienced PKers in McDavid and Draisaitl. The former two were among the team's worst in chances against/60 on the PK last year and yet were counted on as linchpins to the PK from the outset. It's no wonder it all fell apart early. It led to an increase in PP goals against early on leading to Talbot's confidence being shaken which in turn led to more goals against overall which led to a greater focus on defending which led to fewer goals for which led to an over-correction on the PP and so on and so on.

It's honestly my belief that this year's failures are almost all linked to what happened to the PK. Honestly exploring how it fell apart shows us that neither the coaching staff nor management value or consult empirical evidence in their decision-making processes nearly enough.
- MaximumBone

Thanks Hallfan!

I just watched to see us compete for the draft lottery year in and year out.
- laughs2907

The Oilers should put in for the actual lottery in Canada. Would finance them every year.

Thanks Hallfan!


- Iggysbff

Nothing to add? I'll just assume you agree with me entirely then

Nothing to add? I'll just assume you agree with me entirely then
- MaximumBone

A dangerous assumption.

It was brought up earlier in this thread whether people thought it was just Talbot being awful or if it was the defense and it's obviously a combination of both, but why do systems never get factored into the equation? The proportion of quality of chances levied against a goalie relative to the overall number of shots is obviously going to affect his save percentage and it's evident when you watch more than one team that their are some teams who are coached in a way that allows more chances from the more dangerous spots on the ice. This season's Oilers are a prime example.

This idea is seen in an exaggerated form on the PK. The way a team is structured and taught to react to certain occurrences influences how well the high slot and net front are defended. If the team is taught to over-commit and be aggressive at any sign of a bobbling puck for example, they'll leave openings for high-skill plays to be made; plays that will often penetrate the middle of the ice (whether they be high slot shots, seam passes, cross-ice one time saucers, etc).

Players with applicable skillsets (speed, threat recognition, stick checking, board battles, etc) will execute given methods better than those lacking in the requisite fields so it's up to the coach to come up with his system, identify what skills are needed to execute that system and adjust his personnel based on that. This is where I think Todd and his staff falls short. They have a system that worked to an average level (lower-mid tier) last year, but were unable to recognize who their best PKers were (Pouliot, Pitlick with Hendricks doing solid, too) and what made them successful within the confines of their strategy.

As a result, they came into the year unprepared and lacking in PK forwards that fit their needs and instead relied on whoever was left in guys like Letestu, Caggiula and Jokinen and inexperienced PKers in McDavid and Draisaitl. The former two were among the team's worst in chances against/60 on the PK last year and yet were counted on as linchpins to the PK from the outset. It's no wonder it all fell apart early. It led to an increase in PP goals against early on leading to Talbot's confidence being shaken which in turn led to more goals against overall which led to a greater focus on defending which led to fewer goals for which led to an over-correction on the PP and so on and so on.

It's honestly my belief that this year's failures are almost all linked to what happened to the PK. Honestly exploring how it fell apart shows us that neither the coaching staff nor management value or consult empirical evidence in their decision-making processes nearly enough.
- MaximumBone

Fortunately, revamping the PK should be a relatively inexpensive and simple fix.

Unfortunately, I have no faith that this franchise is capable making said fixes.

Just cause:

Oesterle:
http://www.chicagotribune...unity-20180128-story.html

Pitlick:
https://blackoutdallas.co...ugh-winger-tyler-pitlick/

There's solid depth for ya gone in an offseason.

Then there is also Pouliot who is gone too. He has cooled off since the start of the season though. Regardless, he would definitely be useful on the PK and as a middle 6 player.

Fortunately, revamping the PK should be a relatively inexpensive and simple fix.

Unfortunately, I have no faith that this franchise is capable making said fixes.
- Wildschwein

It really isn't a difficult process. If they can't achieve at least a middle of the pack PK by next year, there should be no question that the entire coaching and management staff should be ousted- by force, if necessary.

Nothing to add? I'll just assume you agree with me entirely then
- MaximumBone

You think I read it??

Chances are they'll just do the old "cabinet reshuffle" and add another assistant over the offseason to give the illusion of change. We'll likely see some degree of improvement in the team's results if only by virtue of regression of their special teams to a more normal level. It's already happening for the home PK lately and the PP is bound to bounce back.

Of course that won't solve the fundamental problems that face the team as that would require that they recognize the problems which- based off verbal, visual and tangible results- they don't.

They failed to adapt their breakout system to a league that has grown faster and more aggressive instead falling further back into their "off-the-wall-and-out" tactics instead of swinging the forwards back more to support the transition.

They failed to adapt their defensive systems that worked the year before to reflect the league-wide move in forecheck and attack zone positioning philosophy. This has resulted in the team often chasing the puck down in their own zone after a rim around clear attempt (which are usually enacted as an effort to get the puck to man on the way out of zone).

Even more often, they're not defending the high danger areas and lanes with the type of commitment that they did last year. It was easy to see early in the year that far too many passes and players were getting past the our "box" and destroying our structure. I maintain that this is a direct result of their system keeping wingers stapled up high and close to the boards ready to receive the McLellan brand of rim arounds and off the glass passes. Earlier in the season, the C was up too high as well, but they've since made an adjustment in that regard.

Another problem I've noticed lately more than ever is that lines seem unclear on which forward should be the down-low guy. First man back is great and all as it spreads defensive responsibility, but it becomes an issue when two Cs play on the same line and get caught either both being down low or neither being down-low. This was pretty evident on a goal earlier in the week where people were blaming Russell when McDavid was late to find a man and was caught coasting.

The PP is fixable as long as they just look around the league and even within their own team. The 2nd unit often brings more pressure than the 1st unit because they're not afraid to just rip it on net and chase the rebound. They're more fluid and are structured around their QB (Nuge) in having more RH shooting options for him to use. If they're going to insist on having mostly LH shots on the top unit, they need to adjust and throw Connor on the left half wall so as to open up more one time options for him. A lot of other teams have successful units with players playing their strong side. Alternatively, make an adjustment to who you have on each unit so as to spread out the RH shots.

Either run it like this

Strome (back door)- Khaira (net front)- Draisaitl (one-time)
McDavid (QB)- Klefbom (one-time)

Or this

Strome & Draisaitl (rotating bumper, net front)- McDavid (QB)
Aberg/Slepyshev (one time, simple shooter)- Klefbom

With the 2nd unit running the following with the same roles as the second option applied to each position.

Slepy/Aberg & Khaira/Lucic- Nuge
Puljujarvi- Nurse/Sekera

The key point being that they need more movement on the man advantage than they've had this year. Regardless of the structure, if they can't move fluidly within it, it's gonna be too rigid and succumb to being too easy to counter.

EDIT: My posts are too long; deal with it
- MaximumBone

Definitely... I have no idea why they've been running the powerplay the way they have this year...

In other news... McDavid in 3 on 3 situations... Amazing