Tanner is a demented, self-loathing cuck... Why even bother with him?
- laughs2907

lol whoa whoa whoa there...Tanner said that overall OEL was a better player than John Tavares so what he says is credible...

Wow...good on Khara for handing that tool Clutterbuck his own ass last night!!

Wow...good on Khara for handing that tool Clutterbuck his own ass last night!!
- LordHumungous

Love having Khaira on the Oilers... Dude has heart, and doesn't (frank) around.

Just cause:

Oesterle:
http://www.chicagotribune...unity-20180128-story.html

Pitlick:
https://blackoutdallas.co...ugh-winger-tyler-pitlick/

There's solid depth for ya gone in an offseason.

Then there is also Pouliot who is gone too. He has cooled off since the start of the season though. Regardless, he would definitely be useful on the PK and as a middle 6 player.


- EdmHockeyMan

Pitlick was a bandaid and Osterle hadn't show much more than what we kept.

Pitlick was a bandaid and Osterle hadn't show much more than what we kept.
- Reveen.

So?

His skill was/is obvious and he played a position in which we lack depth. Oilers should have taken advantage of his injury history and locked him in cheap, just as Dallas did.

Pitlick was a bandaid and Osterle hadn't show much more than what we kept.
- Reveen.

Lacerated spleen that RUPTURED in the hospital, torn ACL in one hell of an awkward contact situation, and even more freak accidents. Those ain't bandaid situations to me, that is just poopty luck.

A bandaid is a player with chronic knee pain for example.

Oesterle has shown more than enough with the Hawks (has the most minutes with Keith and 2nd in minutes [team] as a defender behind Keith). Also averages 21 minutes a night btw. So, what do you mean not much more than what we kept?

He was a solid puck-moving defender that can play both sides (LD&RD) and was trending up on the depth chart. Not only that, but he is only 25 years old. Not to mention at a time where our defense was crippled by the loss of Sekera, we let him leave for nothing. Now he is getting paid 650k for the next 2 and has been one of Chicago's better defenders during this season. Hurray.

Link to ice-time:
http://www.espn.com/nhl/t...name/chi/cat/avgTimeOnIce

So?

His skill was/is obvious and he played a position in which we lack depth. Oilers should have taken advantage of his injury history and locked him in cheap, just as Dallas did.
- Wildschwein

Precisely. However, even I wouldn't call him a band-aid honestly, just having some tough luck.

Good point about taking advantage of the injury history (even if the injuries were freak injuries for the most part).

So?

His skill was/is obvious and he played a position in which we lack depth. Oilers should have taken advantage of his injury history and locked him in cheap, just as Dallas did.
- Wildschwein

He was never healthy... this is the first season he cracked 60 games since 2011 and already 25 years old. What in his history suggested he was worth signing ?

Lacerated spleen that RUPTURED in the hospital, torn ACL in one hell of an awkward contact situation, and even more freak accidents. Those ain't bandaid situations to me, that is just poopty luck.

A bandaid is a player with chronic knee pain for example.

Oesterle has shown more than enough with the Hawks (has the most minutes with Keith and 2nd in minutes
- EdmHockeyMan[team] as a defender behind Keith). Also averages 21 minutes a night btw. So, what do you mean not much more than what we kept?

He was a solid puck-moving defender that can play both sides (LD&RD) and was trending up on the depth chart. Not only that, but he is only 25 years old. Not to mention at a time where our defense was crippled by the loss of Sekera, we let him leave for nothing. Now he is getting paid 650k for the next 2 and has been one of Chicago's better defenders during this season. Hurray.

Link to ice-time:
http://www.espn.com/nhl/t...name/chi/cat/avgTimeOnIce

He didn't show that with the Oilers... hind sight is great isn't it. You should start spit roasting Kekalainen for letting a 35 goal scorer in William Karlsson get away for free.

Precisely. However, even I wouldn't call him a band-aid honestly, just having some tough luck.

Good point about taking advantage of the injury history (even if the injuries were freak injuries for the most part).
- EdmHockeyMan

Freak injuries or not he was constantly hurt for the better part 6 seasons.

He was never healthy... this is the first season he cracked 60 games since 2011 and already 25 years old. What in his history suggested he was worth signing ?
- Reveen.

Again, most of his injuries were freak injuries, not chronic injuries, so just tough luck.
As for why sign him? During that season, he showed that he had a good mix of skill/grit/ability and could possibly become an NHL regular as a bottom 6 or even a middle 6 player.
Signing him to a cheap contract wouldn't hurt at all.

https://thehockeywriters....-edmontons-forgotten-man/

Here is a solid article on the matter written last May.

Precisely.

Good point about taking advantage of the injury history (even if the injuries were freak injuries for the most part).
- EdmHockeyMan

What pisses me off most, is that he was one of the very few players that the Oil had managed to draft and develop into something even moderately useful after the 1st round, and we let him walk for nothing. Why not sign him cheap, pad his stats, and then move him for something useful? I'd much rather have traded him to Dallas for a late pick than recoup nothing for the time invested.

What pisses me off most, is that he was one of the very few players that the Oil had managed to draft and develop into something even moderately useful after the 1st round, and we let him walk for nothing. Why not sign him cheap, pad his stats, and then move him for something useful? I'd much rather have traded him to Dallas for a late pick than recoup nothing for the time invested.
- Wildschwein

Would the late round pick been worth it with our draft record

He didn't show that with the Oilers... hind sight is great isn't it. You should start spit roasting Kekalainen for letting a 35 goal scorer in William Karlsson get away for free.
- Reveen.

Except he was showing just that in the AHL with Bakersfield (32 points in 44 games last year btw, trending up from the previous year), so no, not hindsight at all with regards to development. Perhaps I wasn't expecting him to do this well, but I was expecting him to continue trending up and getting better. Regardless, he should have been kept.

650k/2y (what Hawks signed him) and yet didn't even consider resigning him. Shame on us.

He was never healthy... this is the first season he cracked 60 games since 2011 and already 25 years old. What in his history suggested he was worth signing ?
- Reveen.

So?

Yes his past health issues were inconvenient. But they were mostly injuries of an unusual nature, and not lingering issues.
As to his history, we all saw the promise in his play at the start of last year. The talent is obviously there. So why not sign him to a low dollar deal? Dallas certainly doesn't regret it.

He didn't show that with the Oilers... hind sight is great isn't it. You should start spit roasting Kekalainen for letting a 35 goal scorer in William Karlsson get away for free.
- Reveen.

I mean, if you wanna get into technicalities, I was advocating for keeping Oesterle last summer and was pushing hard for the Oil to acquire William Karlsson as part of a deal to add depth to our lineup.

So not JUST hindsight

Would the late round pick been worth it with our draft record
- Reveen.

Probably not. But why not get something instead of settling for nothing? No such thing as too many picks.

Except he was showing just that in the AHL with Bakersfield (32 points in 44 games last year btw, trending up from the previous year), so no, not hindsight at all with regards to development. Perhaps I wasn't expecting him to do this well, but I was expecting him to continue trending up and getting better. Regardless, he should have been kept.

650k/2y (what Hawks signed him) and yet didn't even consider resigning him. Shame on us.
- EdmHockeyMan

Brad Hunt

I mean, if you wanna get into technicalities, I was advocating for keeping Oesterle last summer and was pushing hard for the Oil to acquire William Karlsson as part of a deal to add depth to our lineup.

So not JUST hindsight
- MaximumBone

I do recall that. I don't recall you saying he'd pot 40+ goals this year. Shame on you.

So?

Yes his past health issues were inconvenient. But they were mostly injuries of an unusual nature, and not lingering issues.
As to his history, we all saw the promise in his play at the start of last year. The talent is obviously there. So why not sign him to a low dollar deal? Dallas certainly doesn't regret it.
- Wildschwein

1 season out of 7 playing 60 plus games... how much time do you give a guy who struggles to stay healthy... GM's make bad decisions like this on fringe players all the time.

Look at William Karlsson as an example. If you want to nitpick there are plenty of other Chiarelli transactions that you can crucify him over.

What pisses me off most, is that he was one of the very few players that the Oil had managed to draft and develop into something even moderately useful after the 1st round, and we let him walk for nothing. Why not sign him cheap, pad his stats, and then move him for something useful? I'd much rather have traded him to Dallas for a late pick than recoup nothing for the time invested.
- Wildschwein

Exactly. All in all, terrible asset management.
Probably the worst offseason in recent memory.
Gutted depth like it was nothing and traded away a top line winger for a 3C or 2W due to "cap savings."

Brad Hunt
- Reveen.

Doing well with LVK as a 5/6 (I believe?) this season btw.

I do recall that. I don't recall you saying he'd pot 40+ goals this year. Shame on you.
- Wildschwein

Well, difference of opportunity being what it is, I had no idea the Knights would mesh so well

On another note, I was also pushing for acquiring Reilly Smith as he was the perfect example of a buy-low candidate. Looking back on it, Florida probably would've taken just about anything as it would've meant they didn't have to expose Marchessault just to get out from Smith's contract. I can see why others would hesitate, but this was before the Eberle trade and Russell signing so cap space wouldn't have been an issue.

I mean, if you wanna get into technicalities, I was advocating for keeping Oesterle last summer and was pushing hard for the Oil to acquire William Karlsson as part of a deal to add depth to our lineup.

So not JUST hindsight
- MaximumBone

1) You didn't foresee Osterle becoming a top pairing d-man and I can see him falling back down to Earth next year.

2) William Karlsson projected and a good bottom six forward and I was also on that bandwagon but never in anyone's mind would it have been as a top line winger.

1 season out of 7 playing 60 plus games... how much time do you give a guy who struggles to stay healthy... GM's make bad decisions like this on fringe players all the time.

Look at William Karlsson as an example. If you want to nitpick there are plenty of other Chiarelli transactions that you can crucify him over.
- Reveen.

True, but what I can't understand is why the Oilers do it ALL the (frank)ing time. Its like the organization as a whole is completely incapable of learning from past mistakes.