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Jared Crozier
Ottawa Senators
Location: Gatineau, QC
Joined: 09.26.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:53 AM ET
Jared Crozier: First look to the future - the eve of the draft lottery
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:23 AM ET
Threshold issue. The Sens are either in rebuild mode or they are not.

If they are in rebuild mode their priorities and options are clear.

In rebuild mode you hope to contend in a 3 to 5 year horizon. It means playing a very young roster starting next year.

Winning the Dahlin lottery would be a game changer. Sens would be sitting with Karlsson, Chabot and Dahlin as assets. Who do you deal and for what?

I believe the Sens will deal Karlsson and they will end up with the equivalent of two top 5 picks (their own plus another) and a top young player (e.g. Draisaitl) who might be available directly or in a a three way deal.

I think Buffalo is the most interesting team in the draft. If they lose the #1 pick again they will be huge players in trying to acquire a #1 D. Edmonton will also be players and so will the Leafs (trying to build a blue line).

I have a buddy who says the Sens best option, if they win the lottery, is to resign Karlsson and deal the #1 pick (Dahlin) for a top 5 pick and a blue chip prospect (e.g. Mittlestadt).
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Apr 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
Threshold issue. The Sens are either in rebuild mode or they are not.

If they are in rebuild mode their priorities and options are clear.

In rebuild mode you hope to contend in a 3 to 5 year horizon. It means playing a very young roster starting next year.

Winning the Dahlin lottery would be a game changer. Sens would be sitting with Karlsson, Chabot and Dahlin as assets. Who do you deal and for what?

I believe the Sens will deal Karlsson and they will end up with the equivalent of two top 5 picks (their own plus another) and a top young player (e.g. Draisaitl) who might be available directly or in a a three way deal.

I think Buffalo is the most interesting team in the draft. If they lose the #1 pick again they will be huge players in trying to acquire a #1 D. Edmonton will also be players and so will the Leafs (trying to build a blue line).

I have a buddy who says the Sens best option, if they win the lottery, is to resign Karlsson and deal the #1 pick (Dahlin) for a top 5 pick and a blue chip prospect (e.g. Mittlestadt).

- spatso


Sabre's could use a great winger too. If they wind up with 2-3, I think they would keep it to play on Eichel's wing.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 27 @ 12:06 PM ET
Sabre's could use a great winger too. If they wind up with 2-3, I think they would keep it to play on Eichel's wing.
- david22


agreed. i can't see buffalo making an offer like that.
AlfieFever
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Why would any organization give up the chance to have Karlsson, Chabot and Dahlin on the same team?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
7:30 pm EST picks 4-15 will be announced

Winding down from 15, if a team that is supposed to be there ISN’T obviously that means their in the top 3.

Unless all top 3 seeds go to teams below 5, once we do get to #5 overall, that’s the 1st spot we can see Ottawa.

IF Sens aren’t picking #5 that’s a win for me. IF they don’t get picked number 4 and make it in the top 3 I’m really really happy but I’m expecting a #4; but hoping for you know who.

The top 3 picks will be announced around 9:30 pm EST during intermission of sharks Vegas
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
Why would any organization give up the chance to have Karlsson, Chabot and Dahlin on the same team?
- AlfieFever


If one of them didn't want to be here anymore.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
7:30 pm EST picks 4-15 will be announced

Winding down from 15, if a team that is supposed to be there ISN’T obviously that means their in the top 3.

Unless all top 3 seeds go to teams below 5, once we do get to #5 overall, that’s the 1st spot we can see Ottawa.

IF Sens aren’t picking #5 that’s a win for me. IF they don’t get picked number 4 and make it in the top 3 I’m really really happy but I’m expecting a #4; but hoping for you know who.

The top 3 picks will be announced around 9:30 pm EST during intermission of sharks Vegas

- AlfieisKing



Who should they take if they wind up with 2nd.

I thought Zadina had pulled away , but now it seems people are higher on svechnikov
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
Who should they take if they wind up with 2nd.

I thought Zadina had pulled away , but now it seems people are higher on svechnikov

- david22
I agree

I always had a feeling Zadina would be taken by the Sens. Too be honest I'm not a scout and I trust our scouting staff - I just have loss faith in this ownership + management (who seem to march at the beat of Melnyk's drum). I have a hard time seeing the Sens taking a Russian player.

Although seeing what Tarasenko & especially Kucherov can do, I hope their minds can change if they think he's worth it. Personally it all means nothing unless Melynk get's serious and resigns Karlsson long term. IF Dahlin is here then they should resign Karlsson and have them as a top pair for a at least 3-5 seasons at a good value
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
Who should they take if they wind up with 2nd.

I thought Zadina had pulled away , but now it seems people are higher on svechnikov

- david22
Who you taking? Who are your top 5
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 3:56 PM ET
http://kitchenerrangers.c...-vs-rangers-apr-25th-2018

Logan Brown, great pass on 3rd goal

Brown and the Rangers are 2 wins away from the OHL finals
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Apr 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
Who should they take if they wind up with 2nd.

I thought Zadina had pulled away , but now it seems people are higher on svechnikov.


I think Svechnikov is the "safer" pick, whereas Zadina has potential to be a more prolific goal scorer. What a great problem that'd be to have.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:33 PM ET
I think Svechnikov is the "safer" pick, whereas Zadina has potential to be a more prolific goal scorer. What a great problem that'd be to have.
- sportsdataguy
I think both will be good players. I think if Ottawa get's #2 it becomes a problem. Then you go with Svechnikov; if it's #3 it's likely a pick between Tkachuk and the guy who's left.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Apr 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
Who you taking? Who are your top 5
- AlfieisKing


I keep flip flopping on Zadina and Svech, my list for now.

1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Zadina
4. Tkachuck
5. Boqvist/Bouchard.

Cheating a bit on number 5, but they both look great.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
I keep flip flopping on Zadina and Svech, my list for now.

1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Zadina
4. Tkachuck
5. Boqvist/Bouchard.

Cheating a bit on number 5, but they both look great.

- david22

Yeah, I think that's perfect
Confidenceking77
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Confidence Capital, BC
Joined: 12.24.2017

Apr 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
7:30 pm EST picks 4-15 will be announced

Winding down from 15, if a team that is supposed to be there ISN’T obviously that means their in the top 3.

Unless all top 3 seeds go to teams below 5, once we do get to #5 overall, that’s the 1st spot we can see Ottawa.

IF Sens aren’t picking #5 that’s a win for me. IF they don’t get picked number 4 and make it in the top 3 I’m really really happy but I’m expecting a #4; but hoping for you know who.

The top 3 picks will be announced around 9:30 pm EST during intermission of sharks Vegas

- AlfieisKing

Yeah enjoy that draft lottery. Maybe in a few years you will get to see your team in the playoffs again.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Apr 27 @ 10:02 PM ET
Yeah enjoy that draft lottery. Maybe in a few years you will get to see your team in the playoffs again.
- Confidenceking77

Oh man you got us good!!!
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Apr 27 @ 11:38 PM ET

IF Sens aren’t picking #5 that’s a win for me. IF they don’t get picked number 4 and make it in the top 3 I’m really really happy but I’m expecting a #4; but hoping for you know who.

- AlfieisKing

Agree 100%. I really want us to be in the top 4.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 11:50 PM ET
Yeah enjoy that draft lottery. Maybe in a few years you will get to see your team in the playoffs again.
- Confidenceking77
thanks?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 27 @ 11:51 PM ET
Agree 100%. I really want us to be in the top 4.
- SensFan25

Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Obviously Dahlin would be ideal, but if not I think Thachuk would fit in quite well
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
I’ve said it before, I always had the feeling Zadina will end up in Ottawa
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:05 PM ET
Obviously Dahlin would be ideal, but if not I think Thachuk would fit in quite well
- Maverick1818

Agree

For some reason the only one that concerns me is the Russian
So if Sens land Zadina or Tkachuk I’ll be happy

Just please not 5th!
Tired of the odds not working in our favor
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Apr 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
I’ve said it before, I always had the feeling Zadina will end up in Ottawa
- AlfieisKing


Pasternak 2.0?
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Apr 28 @ 7:50 PM ET
I’ve said it before, I always had the feeling Zadina will end up in Ottawa
- AlfieisKing


So much for that possibility now. But hey, 4th is better than 5th!
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