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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: My view on second round of playoffs to date, including Wilson’s hit on ZAR
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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
So is Wilsons left shoulder on ZAR's chin. Good call.
- Aussiepenguin

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 2 @ 10:27 AM ET

- tomburton99


Is it playing for me? Only for me?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
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May 2 @ 10:27 AM ET

- tomburton99



Dying alive???
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

May 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
https://twitter.com/NHL/status/991685425931669504
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
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May 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
So is Wilsons left shoulder on ZAR's chin. Good call.
- Aussiepenguin


If you think that is a head shot, i'm guessing we will not agree no matter what.

I do remember all you guys defending this though...which wasn't even a hockey play

TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
mdw and jimbo are both absolutely correct.

Initial point of contact is shoulder to shoulder. Did not leave his feet. Elbow is down. Stick ( including butt-end ) is not a factor. Aston- Reese saw him coming, this was not a blind side hit. Only part that may be disputable is hit was tad late. Watching video at full speed, I can see Wilson was late, but not to the point where discipline will be necessary.
All adds up to LEGAL HIT.

Any Penguin fan crying over this now knows the feelings of others where Crosby, Malkin, Cooke etc. have gotten away with far worse.

Is Wilson a player that crosses the line? Yes!
Does NHL have to change rules to protect players from future hits like this? Absolutely!
However, despite the injury, this is a hit within current rules. I actually wish this hit was on Crosby to illustrate that the rule does need to be changed. A hit like this on Crosby would certainly speed up the amendment process.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
Is it playing for me? Only for me?
- Aussiepenguin

It's more so the fact that I don't care. Both teams act like and employ trash. So I want this series to live in the mud. Was both of Wilson's hits dirty, probably. But Crosby might or might not have spit at Kuznetsov. So this series needs to live in the gutter. I want nothing more from it.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

May 2 @ 10:30 AM ET
mdw and jimbo are both absolutely correct.

Initial point of contact is shoulder to shoulder. Did not leave his feet. Elbow is down. Stick ( including butt-end ) is not a factor. Aston- Reese saw him coming, this was not a blind side hit. Only part that may be disputable is hit was tad late. Watching video at full speed, I can see Wilson was late, but not to the point where discipline will be necessary.
All adds up to LEGAL HIT.

Any Penguin fan crying over this now knows the feelings of others where Crosby, Malkin, Cooke etc. have gotten away with far worse.

Is Wilson a player that crosses the line? Yes!
Does NHL have to change rules to protect players from future hits like this? Absolutely!
However, despite the injury, this is a hit within current rules. I actually wish this hit was on Crosby to illustrate that the rule does need to be changed. A hit like this on Crosby would certainly speed up the amendment process.

- TommyGTrain


Not what I was saying
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
Not what I was saying

- jimbo83


Yes you were. You can't help but agree with me.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
this is pretty reasonable:

Stephen

Verified account

@StephenCLorenzo

This will be a suspension for his history and that's probably justified, but still thought last nights hit was the least egregious of the three questionable ones he's had this postseason
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
If you think that is a head shot, i'm guessing we will not agree no matter what.

I do remember all you guys defending this though...which wasn't even a hockey play


- mdw7413


Dirty play. Agreed. Not sure who defended that, & there was lost teeth as well wasn't there?

Not sure why all you want to say the Pens fans defend dirty play when most will admit it was dirty. I'm sure I could hunt up some dirty play that you guys think is ok - Staal cross checking Sid comes to mind..........in the back of the neck???

Doesn't take away Wilsons actions though. It's pretty pointless if you were to ask me.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
Yes you were. You can't help but agree with me.
- mdw7413




I believe the 2nd angle shows a direct headshot and the still photo before the hit proves NOTHING you female dog
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
Not what I was saying

- jimbo83


Seriously guys. Go watch Mark Messier's hit on Mike Modano. One of the most brutal sequences of events I have ever seen, ending with the ambulance personnel dropping Modano. The awareness of the consequences of head shots has definitely increased, which is a good thing. I just think there is a lot of grey area now on what's clean and what's not.

I am only talking about the Wilson hit last night, and that is how hockey coaches teach kids to hit -- feet on the ice, arms down, etc. I just don't see that one.

I just watched the Wennberg hit and that one was worse.
mdw7413
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May 2 @ 10:34 AM ET


I believe the 2nd angle shows a direct headshot and the still photo before the hit proves NOTHING you female dog

- jimbo83

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 2 @ 10:34 AM ET


I believe the 2nd angle shows a direct headshot and the still photo before the hit proves NOTHING you female dog

- jimbo83

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
It's more so the fact that I don't care. Both teams act like and employ trash. So I want this series to live in the mud. Was both of Wilson's hits dirty, probably. But Crosby might or might not have spit at Kuznetsov. So this series needs to live in the gutter. I want nothing more from it.
- tomburton99


That's fair. Didn't know about the spitting & none of the trolls on the Pens thread have brought it up.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
That's fair. Didn't know about the spitting & none of the trolls on the Pens thread have brought it up.
- Aussiepenguin

https://sports.yahoo.com/...t-capitals-031725952.html

https://www.cbssports.com...uring-post-whistle-scrum/
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
Dirty play. Agreed. Not sure who defended that, & there was lost teeth as well wasn't there?

Not sure why all you want to say the Pens fans defend dirty play when most will admit it was dirty. I'm sure I could hunt up some dirty play that you guys think is ok - Staal cross checking Sid comes to mind..........in the back of the neck???

Doesn't take away Wilsons actions though. It's pretty pointless if you were to ask me.

- Aussiepenguin


The video was just a little ribbing. Lighten up Aussie.

I think last nights hit was clean the Doumulin one should have been a game. And I haven't seen the Wennberg one jimbo is talking about.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
Second paragraph was for you jimbo
tomburton99
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
On a personal note, I'm worried about how I gonna lose 100 dollars during the Kentucky Derby.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
The video was just a little ribbing. Lighten up Aussie.

I think last nights hit was clean the Doumulin one should have been a game. And I haven't seen the Wennberg one jimbo is talking about.

- mdw7413


jimbo83
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
Second paragraph was for you jimbo
- TommyGTrain


oh sorry, I should real whole thing dammit
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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May 2 @ 10:40 AM ET

- jimbo83


Yeah that probably should have been a game or two. It was close to a hockey play, but he was about a second or two early, and blindsided him which I believe current rules say are punishable by fine or suspension.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
https://sports.yahoo.com/did-sidney-crosby-spit-capitals-031725952.html

https://www.cbssports.com...uring-post-whistle-scrum/

- tomburton99


Isn't he Turkish? Or Japanese?

If he spat it's way out of line. Not sure doing it in front of refs standing right there was a good idea. He should sit a game or 2 on suspicion. Agreed?

Any other things the Pens players have done while you defend Wilsons actions by accusing Pens fans of things? Just to clear it up as i want to go to bed.

#sitspittingcrosbyfor2
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

May 2 @ 10:43 AM ET
Regarding player safety, why was Dumolin playing last night after a concussion in game 2? Was it the miracle doctors in Pittsburgh again, same ones that healed Lemieux’s fractured wrist in a week?
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