Pierre cheating on the Pens with Tampa

They are going to be really upset when they find out he passed away 4 years ago
- eichiefs9

Now that is (frank)ing funny

Yeah the DPS is known for their rational decisions.
- mdw7413

100%. Had they done their job for the Wenneberg hit, Dumo wouldn't have been hit in the head & ZAR would be playing game 4.

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- 21peter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEw_AVfJBY

100%. Had they done their job for the Wenneberg hit, Dumo wouldn't have been hit in the head & ZAR would be playing game 4.
- Aussiepenguin

Lays out pretty damning evidence:
http://www.sportingnews.c...k3plwl8lfkot11flpw7ah3yf7

Lays out pretty damning evidence:
http://www.sportingnews.c...k3plwl8lfkot11flpw7ah3yf7
- airjan23

Not for me. 2-3 of those were bad, particularly the ones around the boards. Most of them, however, seemed like clean hits to me. The fact is that Tom Wilson is just a freight train. He's strong as a bull, and you can do damage with clean hits. I don't see what a lot of people see as the rules are currently constituted.

Does he look for people in vunerable position? No doubt. I am not going to argue that. Maybe the NHL just needs to take open ice hitting out of the game, because some of these hits are just clean but devastating open ice hits.

Lays out pretty damning evidence:
http://www.sportingnews.c...k3plwl8lfkot11flpw7ah3yf7
- airjan23

A lot of those the puck had gone & he was skating from distance to hit.

Remarkable lack of responsibility of DoPS part. Just giving him a green light basically.

I think it was the Bortuzzo hit on Jagr a few years ago they were counting milliseconds so they could call it late.

But Bettman runs his league without accountability. Pronger working for the NHL & having a contract with the Flyers?? Against the rules but that's the way Bettman roles. Why would player safety trump playoff controversy?

Not for me. 2-3 of those were bad, particularly the ones around the boards. Most of them, however, seemed like clean hits to me. The fact is that Tom Wilson is just a freight train. He's strong as a bull, and you can do damage with clean hits. I don't see what a lot of people see as the rules are currently constituted.

Does he look for people in vunerable position? No doubt. I am not going to argue that. Maybe the NHL just needs to take open ice hitting out of the game, because some of these hits are just clean but devastating open ice hits.
- Pete V

What's the definition of charging?

What's the definition of charging?
- Aussiepenguin

Leaving your feet before contact.

Edit: I am actually wrong about that. Travelling an excessive distance is an element, including steps before contact.

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Leaving your feet before contact.

Edit: I am actually wrong about that. Travelling an excessive distance is an element, including steps before contact.
- Pete V

Taking more than 3 strides before contact?

Daniel Carcillo@CarBombBoom13
This is one of the scariest & hardest things I’ve ever had to write but here it goes. I am pledging my brain to Ted Carrick and the @Carrickinst (Carrick Institute) to be used for study and furthering understanding of the consequences of traumatic brain injury when I pass @NHL
- 21peter

if he really had any balls, he'd give them his brain now

if he really had any balls, he'd give them his brain now
- jimbo83

I was just wondering, is he on his last legs? He better slew foot someone walking down the street 1 last time for old times sake.

Taking more than 3 strides before contact?
- Aussiepenguin

Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.

You raise a good question, because the rule is really damn vague.

if he really had any balls, he'd give them his brain now
- jimbo83

finally an 'old school' Jimbo statement


you've been kinda soft lately...

Charging is a penalty in ice hockey. Rule 42 of the NHL rulebook dictates that charging "shall mean the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.

You raise a good question, because the rule is really damn vague.
- Pete V

Pretty sure the full phrase has more than 3 strides constitutes too many. Wenneberg hit he takes 3 or more & travels from my street to hit him. The shot on the blues player was the same, you can argue the ZAR hit he travelled too far. That along with no puck is the basis of penalties unless you're big bad T-Bone Wilson.

You aren't allowed to target a player & run over him from a distance - that has intent to injure.

finally an 'old school' Jimbo statement


you've been kinda soft lately...
- 21peter

you haven't seen me when I have been waking up lately

Not for me. 2-3 of those were bad, particularly the ones around the boards. Most of them, however, seemed like clean hits to me. The fact is that Tom Wilson is just a freight train. He's strong as a bull, and you can do damage with clean hits. I don't see what a lot of people see as the rules are currently constituted.

Does he look for people in vunerable position? No doubt. I am not going to argue that. Maybe the NHL just needs to take open ice hitting out of the game, because some of these hits are just clean but devastating open ice hits.
- Pete V

Even if you want to argue several of the hits are borderline, that living on the edge can and likely will result in going over that line, as Wilson has done. I have no issue with being a physical, edgy, agitative power forward, but when you go over the line, punishment should occur. The NHL's only consistency is that they are inconsistent.

you haven't seen me when I have been waking up lately
- jimbo83

We all say thank god for that

We all say thank god for that
- airjan23

Pretty sure the full phrase has more than 3 strides constitutes too many. Wenneberg hit he takes 3 or more & travels from my street to hit him. The shot on the blues player was the same, you can argue the ZAR hit he travelled too far. That along with no puck is the basis of penalties unless you're big bad T-Bone Wilson.

You aren't allowed to target a player & run over him from a distance - that has intent to injure.
- Aussiepenguin

At the end of the day, I think both the NHL and NFL have a problem, because the very nature of tackling and body checking is violent in nature. In the NFL for instance, these guys can't hit low because of potential leg injuries and they can't hit high, because of potential head shots. That really limits the hit zone, for lack of a better phrase. In the NHL, you can really low bridge someone and the game is just so damn fast where any open ice hit can lead to bad things.

You take big, fast, strong players and you play them in games that permit violent contact, and then it's really hard not to blur the line between legal and illegal. Someone like Tom Wilson is just so damn strong where he has the potential to do damage with any hit.

In the end, I don't know the right answer. I just know that both games, football and hockey, are real f'ing dangerous.

OK TIME FOR A NEW (frank)ING TOPIC!

does this Lindqvist guy really change their plans that much? I read somewhere on twitter that the guy compares to Kovacs and that didnt turn out so well

you haven't seen me when I have been waking up lately
- jimbo83

OK TIME FOR A NEW (frank)ING TOPIC!

does this Lindqvist guy really change their plans that much? I read somewhere on twitter that the guy compares to Kovacs and that didnt turn out so well
- mrn22

as long as Jimbo doesn't make him his new Stromwall, we should be good

At the end of the day, I think both the NHL and NFL have a problem, because the very nature of tackling and body checking is violent in nature. In the NFL for instance, these guys can't hit low because of potential leg injuries and they can't hit high, because of potential head shots. That really limits the hit zone, for lack of a better phrase. In the NHL, you can really low bridge someone and the game is just so damn fast where any open ice hit can lead to bad things.

You take big, fast, strong players and you play them in games that permit violent contact, and then it's really hard not to blur the line between legal and illegal. Someone like Tom Wilson is just so damn strong where he has the potential to do damage with any hit.

In the end, I don't know the right answer. I just know that both games, football and hockey, are real f'ing dangerous.
- Pete V

Hockey can transition to a larger ice surface (not necessarily the European-size rinks) to blunt some of the increase in speed that has entered the game, and the existing prohibitions against charging and boarding would be more effective in limiting some dangerous hits. However, the space needed to enlarge the rink involves the elimination of the pricier seats, and ownership is unwilling to do that.