Either way - its impressive that they've made it this far without both and they've bull dozed through LA, SJ and the Jets (all teams that do)

Point is a lot of people argue having a 1C and 1D is a must and they've clearly proving that to be bullSh&t
- Brooks_Light

Karllson is a 1c. He's a Selke finalist and scored 40 goals.

Karllson is a 1c. He's a Selke finalist and scored 40 goals.
- neem55

Whose their stud D ?

Engelland ? Lol

Whose their stud D ?

Engelland ? Lol
- Redmile247

Sbisa

Sbisa
- VANTEL

How could I have missed that ...

Well if we are going to praise the man for things he didn’t fully do why can’t we criticize him for things he did fully do ?

Traded a 4th rounder for Dustin penner

Traded Matthieu Perrault for a 4th and John mitchel

Traded a 2nd and Cody Eakin for a coked out mike ribeiro

Traded a first rounder for Troy Brouwer

Can’t really give him credit for drafting Ovie ...or backstrom

He did turn Varlamov into Forsberg ...but then screwed thst up

John Carlson pick was a good trade

Kuznetsov and burakovski were good pics too

Drafted Holtby

I’m just not convinced that he is some genius here ...you give any GM enough time they will find a way to look both good and bad
- Redmile247

Of course you can, I do it to Benning all the time (bust his balls for doing stupid poop). Despite my distain for Benning he has done some good things in Vancouver, just more bad than good IMO..

The opposite is true with McPhee, again, IMO, more good than bad. You can give him credit for drafting OV and Backstrom, because that was their plan, to reset the franchise and build through the draft, unlike Mr. Benning.

thought Grabner was a throw in for the trade, Florida let him walk
- hillbillydeluxe

Tallon?

Who cares, the last 25 years don't count because of bettman.

Who cares, the last 25 years don't count because of bettman.
- Bettmanhatesus

Best thing that ever came about for the owners, they're all rich because of him! Before he took office you could buy a team for 30 million, now you can have your very own for 600 million to upwards of 1 billion

I havn't watched the playoffs except a bit of the jets knights series, this league doesn't get me excited anymore, I would rather go watch 10 year olds playing for fun

I havn't watched the playoffs except a bit of the jets knights series, this league doesn't get me excited anymore, I would rather go watch 10 year olds playing for fun
- Bettmanhatesus

After 2011 I had enough and I just watch it with a grain of salt sort of speak.

Either way - its impressive that they've made it this far without both and they've bull dozed through LA, SJ and the Jets (all teams that do)

Point is a lot of people argue having a 1C and 1D is a must and they've clearly proving that to be bullSh&t
- Brooks_Light

When it happens once in a blue moon doesn't make it normal. Every other year probably since the lockout, teams have had a 1C and a 1D.

Pittsburgh has proven capable defenders with a lot of high end forwards can get the job done if you have a seriously good goaltender.

I havn't watched the playoffs except a bit of the jets knights series, this league doesn't get me excited anymore, I would rather go watch 10 year olds playing for fun
- Bettmanhatesus

We all figured....

Best thing that ever came about for the owners, they're all rich because of him! Before he took office you could buy a team for 30 million, now you can have your very own for 600 million to upwards of 1 billion
- LeftCoaster

All the Canadian teams are run like crap by design and now that the jets are a threat and in cap trouble I see a series of bad moves coming and gifting American teams good players, we have become farm teams for American based teams.

Of course you can, I do it to Benning all the time (bust his balls for doing stupid poop). Despite my distain for Benning he has done some good things in Vancouver, just more bad than good IMO..

The opposite is true with McPhee, again, IMO, more good than bad. You can give him credit for drafting OV and Backstrom, because that was their plan, to reset the franchise and build through the draft, unlike Mr. Benning.
- LeftCoaster

So McPhee won a draft lotto and Benning hasn’t ....there’s your difference

Seems like teams with a stud D and 1C typically win while the teams without those end up just finalist

Caps in 5
- Redmile247

Winnipeg says hi.

All the Canadian teams are run like crap by design and now that the jets are a threat and in cap trouble I see a series of bad moves coming and gifting American teams good players, we have become farm teams for American based teams.
- Bettmanhatesus

Winnipeg says hi.
- we_are_all_canucks

Whose Winnipeg’s stud D ?

All the Canadian teams are run like crap by design and now that the jets are a threat and in cap trouble I see a series of bad moves coming and gifting American teams good players, we have become farm teams for American based teams.
- Bettmanhatesus

Step back from the kool-aid.

So McPhee won a draft lotto and Benning hasn’t ....there’s your difference
- Redmile247

umm no....it's not. Washington planned to tank their team and rebuild through the draft, yes jumping from 3rd to 1st helped in 2004 obviously but they had a plan. Three 1st round picks in 04, two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks.

04-05-06 they picked 12 times in the first two rounds, including seven times in the 1st round. There's your difference. An actual rebuild. Not to mention some great drafting late in the first round picking guys like Kuznetsov, Mike Green, Varlamov, Carlson, Johansson, Burakovsky.

Benning tried to compete for the past five years and failed, he doesn't appear to have a plan?

umm no....it's not. Washington planned to tank their team and rebuild through the draft, yes jumping from 3rd to 1st helped in 2004 obviously but they had a plan. Three 1st round picks in 04, two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks.

04-05-06 they picked 12 times in the first two rounds, including seven times in the 1st round. There's your difference. An actual rebuild. Not to mention some great drafting late in the first round picking guys like Kuznetsov, Mike Green, Varlamov, Carlson, Johansson, Burakovsky.

Benning tried to compete for the past five years and failed, he doesn't appear to have a plan?
- LeftCoaster

Pre salary cap it was very easy to do this ....teams were more than willing to trade picks and prospects to obtain players ....nowadays with the cap it’s not as easy

I get you want Benning go trade more for picks rather than keep assets who won’t be around when the Canucks are playoff regulars ...but I just don’t think it’s as simple as it used to be

Pre salary cap it was very easy to do this ....teams were more than willing to trade picks and prospects to obtain players ....nowadays with the cap it’s not as easy

I get you want Benning go trade more for picks rather than keep assets who won’t be around when the Canucks are playoff regulars ...but I just don’t think it’s as simple as it used to be
- Redmile247

So don't compare Benning and McPhee then?

Step back from the kool-aid.
- manvanfan

And chirelli was hired to frank up the oilers and force mcdavid to ask for a trade to a big market when I watch games its alone because none of my teammates and friends quit watching whats a penalty, whats worthy of a suspension, what what what there is so much wrong with this league and it rivals bowling for popularity in the states how is that for a rant I would like to hear that brett Connolly won a cup though a friend of mine coached him and his brother in minor hockey and he thought josh was more skilled than brett but brett had the will.

And chirelli was hired to frank up the oilers and force mcdavid to ask for a trade to a big market when I watch games its alone because none of my teammates and friends quit watching whats a penalty, whats worthy of a suspension, what what what there is so much wrong with this league and it rivals bowling for popularity in the states how is that for a rant I would like to hear that brett Connolly won a cup though a friend of mine coached him and his brother in minor hockey and he thought josh was more skilled than brett but brett had the will.
- Bettmanhatesus

*shrug*

So don't compare Benning and McPhee then.
- LeftCoaster

You brought up Benning ... I was just stating that McPhee shouldnt get all this credit for being a good GM

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