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SuperSchennBros
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Jul 27 @ 3:48 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Hagg, WJC Showcase and more
- bmeltzer

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ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Jul 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
Oh no, here we go...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 27 @ 3:57 PM ET
I don't know Simmonds personally, but I don't think he wants to leave the Philly area, especially with all his work in the community. But you have to think about your future and deserves to get paid.
- Glak18

Sounds reasonable. He’s also a name and probably the most dangerous player in the league in the crease. He’s gonna get paid no matter where he goes, and there is no undervaluing what he has to offer.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:15 PM ET
Yeah, but that doesn't happen. Most of them submit them with at least a week to go in the season. The more correct phrasing of what actually happens would be "writers must submit ballots by the end of the regular season." Bill had a big write-up about it a while back, as he was a former member of the PWHA.
- jmatchett383


Not that I don’t believe you, but I cannot find that article. Also, Tampa was a couple country miles from the playoffs and we were always within a game.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
Not that I don’t believe you, but I cannot find that article. Also, Tampa was a couple country miles from the playoffs and we were always within a game.
- NC Flyers Fan


I can't find it, either, but I remember reading it a few months back.

Anyway, I'm done caring about whether or not any Flyers ever wins an award besides the Stanley Cup.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:26 PM ET
I can't find it, either, but I remember reading it a few months back.

Anyway, I'm done caring about whether or not any Flyers ever wins an award besides the Stanley Cup.

- jmatchett383


Yes, I hope should G win that, people will change their tune.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 4:27 PM ET
Yes, I hope should G win that, people will change their tune.
- NC Flyers Fan


I don't really care if that "changes people's tunes" or not, and I doubt he does. All I want them to do is win the Cup, personal awards are secondary.
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 27 @ 4:27 PM ET
Dale Weise is like Mike Knuble without a clue....we paid Weise.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:32 PM ET
I don't really care if that "changes people's tunes" or not, and I doubt he does. All I want them to do is win the Cup, personal awards are secondary.
- jmatchett383


We were talking nominations, not awards. Really it is the respect level that I would like to see change. If winning a cup doesn’t do that, nothing will.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 4:35 PM ET
We were talking nominations, not awards. Really it is the respect level that I would like to see change. If winning a cup doesn’t do that, nothing will.
- NC Flyers Fan


I don'gt think it's a respect thing. He was nominated for the Hart a few years back despite not being a top-2 scorer.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Jul 27 @ 4:39 PM ET
Christ do the 3rd jerseys suck
- Just5

Looks like the bobo jerseys they sell at Target.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
I don'gt think it's a respect thing. He was nominated for the Hart a few years back despite not being a top-2 scorer.
- jmatchett383


Yes, 4 years ago when he was a top 3 scorer. I think he finished 3rd on the nominations. Boy, they went out on a limb to show respect.

Maybe people just can’t get over all the nasty things they said about him before last season. “Done” Declining bull.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 27 @ 4:50 PM ET
From Toronto's newest blog:



Now I am not saying it will happen NOR am I advocating trading Simmonds, I am just asking if he did get traded then what would the Flyer fans expect in return?

Off-Limits:
Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Rielly, Gardiner

Players Flyers DO NOT want:
Hyman, Brown, Marleau, Leivo, Ennis, Hainsey

Typical Leafs fan would say "Some turd prospect like Bracco and a 7th". Not happening.

Ok let's have some fun without fighting

What do YOU want in return for Simmonds?

- Glak18


I don't think the Leafs and Flyers match up well. Leafs really need defense more than Simmonds. Flyers also need defense or 3C at the NHL level. Leafs would not give up Kadri for Simmonds, so you'd be looking at prospects.

I'd love Kapanen in the package, as he is most nhl-ready. Leafs might be inclined to include him, but the Flyers would need more. Timashov or Johnsson have lots of upside, but are LW is where we're stacked. I don't like any of their other forward prospects (maybe Gauthier?). So maybe Kapanen, Johnnson and a 2nd rounder would be fair.

The bigger question is, does Simmonds bring back as much as Schenn, more, or less?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
Looks like the bobo jerseys they sell at Target.
- hereticpride

without numbers or the nameplate, they are bobo AF
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
I don't really care if that "changes people's tunes" or not, and I doubt he does. All I want them to do is win the Cup, personal awards are secondary.
- jmatchett383


This.
To me, the individual subjective awards are completely meaningless.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
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Jul 27 @ 5:08 PM ET
Looks like the bobo jerseys they sell at Target.
- hereticpride


lol! I haven't heard/used that term in decades
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
without numbers or the nameplate, they are bobo AF
- KINGKENZO

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 27 @ 5:24 PM ET
lol! I haven't heard/used that term in decades
- Scoob

I only heard it for the first time a few years ago and it killed me.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
This.
To me, the individual subjective awards are completely meaningless.

- Scoob


True, but respect isn’t meaningless.

Do you feel any differently about Ovi’s skills since he now won a cup then before?

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 5:53 PM ET
keep in mind boys and girls, what Simmonds will get paid will be affected by how he plays the first half of the season.

My assumption being they might resign him or trade him prior to the deadline.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Jul 27 @ 5:57 PM ET
keep in mind boys and girls, what Simmonds will get paid will be affected by how he plays the first half of the season.

My assumption being they might resign him or trade him prior to the deadline.

- wcorvette

Yeah, if he struggles early on it will severely effect his value. I expect him to come out on fire to start the season... if his body allows him to. Tough spot to be in for Hexy.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 27 @ 6:18 PM ET


My boys are growing up
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 27 @ 6:52 PM ET


My boys are growing up

- Giroux_Is_God


WTF happened to Wolfmother
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 27 @ 7:07 PM ET
Great move by the Phils
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