Oh come on, many on here loved Doresett because he brought his garbage... err lunch pail to work every day. Maybe not you (but I'm pretty sure) certainly the majority
- neem55

I love DD on ice game. In the summer though half of us wanted to trade him until we seen him play again.

He was injured half a year and we forgot how he played

The first two were not helping them win now and the last 6 players all had legitimate injuries that didn't allow them to outperform the competition for their respective spots in the lineup.
- Pres.cup

Amazing how Eriksson had two real season ending injuries right at the TDL

Oh come on, many on here loved Doresett because he brought his garbage... err lunch pail to work every day. Maybe not you (but I'm pretty sure) certainly the majority
- neem55

Loved him. One of the few Canucks that didn’t embarrass me.

I love DD on ice game. In the summer though half of us wanted to trade him until we seen him play again.

He was injured half a year and we forgot how he played
- VANTEL

It was a nice story to see him go out in a blaze of glory. But stats don't lie and he was a bigger liability than the Sedin's ever were.

Loved him. One of the few Canucks that didn’t embarrass me.
- CanuckDon

Yup. that's why I said hopefully he has one good year.
- neem55

I'd love it if he somehow managed to play 164 good games for the club, but I don't see it in the cards.

A lot of depth players over 30 also kept themselves in great shape but it didn't matter once the half step back turned into a full step or more back.

Trying to think of a single "grinder" who isn't always IN THE BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE at camp? Serious blanks. Higgins was never not in excellent condition, same with Hansen or Burrows for recent familiar examples. I don't think Prust was exactly drinking melted ice cream by the bath tub. Age comes for everyone.

I'd love it if he somehow managed to play 164 good games for the club, but I don't see it in the cards.

A lot of depth players over 30 also kept themselves in great shape but it didn't matter once the half step back turned into a full step or more back.

Trying to think of a single "grinder" who isn't always IN THE BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE at camp? Serious blanks. Higgins was never not in excellent condition, same with Hansen or Burrows for recent familiar examples. I don't think Prust was exactly drinking melted ice cream by the bath tub. Age comes for everyone.
- Lindenis#1

Thank God we can talk about Beagle again 😍😍😍

7 th anniversary of Rick Rypien

I love DD on ice game. In the summer though half of us wanted to trade him until we seen him play again.

He was injured half a year and we forgot how he played
- VANTEL

He was a fine 4th liner but I couldn't stand the pedestal he was put on. He was fine. That's it. Some people liked to talk as if he was a dark horse Hart Trophy player at times.

Also I think most of the negative talk around Dorsett was due to his usage under Willie D (getting more ice than the Twins in games the team was losing sometimes. Also, if you seemed to even mumble about how he rode a hot streak scoring at the start of the year despite getting pummeled on the shot clock it somehow meant you didn't think he tried really hard.

A lot of the arguments around Dorsett seemed to revolve around how things weren't mutually exclusive when they were.

Ya and even if these guys aren't as good as were hoping (inevitably is true... JV), most of those guys will at least fill a roster slot and be players on the roster. You need 4 lines to compete these days.
- neem55

In a perfect world, OJ, Hughes and Woo all hit and it transforms the defence. The nice thing about a defence is you only need like make like 3 good picks and you should be fine, compared to drafting a forward core where you basically need varying degrees of success from like 9 picks.

He was a fine 4th liner but I couldn't stand the pedestal he was put on. He was fine. That's it. Some people liked to talk as if he was a dark horse Hart Trophy player at times.

Also I think most of the negative talk around Dorsett was due to his usage under Willie D (getting more ice than the Twins in games the team was losing sometimes. Also, if you seemed to even mumble about how he rode a hot streak scoring at the start of the year despite getting pummeled on the shot clock it somehow meant you didn't think he tried really hard.

A lot of the arguments around Dorsett seemed to revolve around how things weren't mutually exclusive when they were.
- Lindenis#1

I liked him because he was one of the few that showed any back bone. It is one think to be a bad team but to be a bad team that has no balls is inexcusable

What do you call Pettersson and Boeser then?
- VANTEL

1st round picks just like Jensen, Gaunce and Schroeder.

1st round picks just like Jensen, Gaunce and Schroeder.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Seriously?

1st round picks just like Jensen, Gaunce and Schroeder.
- A_SteamingLombardi

lol...found that funny.

OJ Demko Bo Hughes that makes 6 of the 23
- VANTEL

You forgot Gaunce

7 th anniversary of Rick Rypien
- VANTEL

Miss that guy.

I liked him because he was one of the few that showed any back bone. It is one think to be a bad team but to be a bad team that has no balls is inexcusable
- VANTEL

Toughness doesn't come from one player, or solely bottom 6 players, and to look at it that way leads to contracts that teams regret.

Its up to guys like Bo and Brock etc. to change the dynamic now. They don't have to go out there and fight all comers, but give a shot before you take one sometimes. Or when you get one, give one right back. You can't always be responsive.

Taylor Hall does something hella (frank)ing dirty about once a year when teams start poking at him a bit too much and then they usually back off. Something alone those lines. Maybe after a particular nasty series of slashes, Brock decides to knee someones ACL into 2013. It'll be a hubbub for a little but it'll die down and guys will remember.

I'd love it if he somehow managed to play 164 good games for the club, but I don't see it in the cards.

A lot of depth players over 30 also kept themselves in great shape but it didn't matter once the half step back turned into a full step or more back.

Trying to think of a single "grinder" who isn't always IN THE BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE at camp? Serious blanks. Higgins was never not in excellent condition, same with Hansen or Burrows for recent familiar examples. I don't think Prust was exactly drinking melted ice cream by the bath tub. Age comes for everyone.
- Lindenis#1

Ya this is accurate, it's a young man's league more than ever. It seems like it's all foot speed, which I don't think is that bad for Beagle so I'm hoping for a good year maybe 2 (but ya, he's not getting younger!)

Seriously?

- VANTEL

Schroeder was picked 22nd, Boeser picked 23rd, not much difference, and they're both from Minnesota.

Toughness doesn't come from one player, or solely bottom 6 players, and to look at it that way leads to contracts that teams regret.

Its up to guys like Bo and Brock etc. to change the dynamic now. They don't have to go out there and fight all comers, but give a shot before you take one sometimes. Or when you get one, give one right back. You can't always be responsive.

Taylor Hall does something hella (frank)ing dirty about once a year when teams start poking at him a bit too much and then they usually back off. Something alone those lines. Maybe after a particular nasty series of slashes, Brock decides to knee someones ACL into 2013. It'll be a hubbub for a little but it'll die down and guys will remember.
- Lindenis#1

I don't have an issue with team toughness anymore

In a perfect world, OJ, Hughes and Woo all hit and it transforms the defence. The nice thing about a defence is you only need like make like 3 good picks and you should be fine, compared to drafting a forward core where you basically need varying degrees of success from like 9 picks.
- Lindenis#1

I think they will all make the team, but all top4 is a stretch. Tree would make things very interesting though.

Schroeder was picked 22nd, Boeser picked 23rd, not much difference.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Okay

Ya this is accurate, it's a young man's league more than ever. It seems like it's all foot speed, which I don't think is that bad for Beagle so I'm hoping for a good year maybe 2 (but ya, he's not getting younger!)
- neem55

Its really frightening when you realize that Edler was the 24th(?) oldest defenceman in the NHL last year, at 32. Most dudes older than him are in the tail of bad contracts or former Norris guys who've only become simple top pairing defenceman.

Schroeder was picked 22nd, Boeser picked 23rd, not much difference, and they're both from Minnesota.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Some are going to be hits and some aren't. It's the nature of the beast. A lot of the guys we have high hopes for may well be duds, it's the sad truth of drafting and developing. But it will be a lot more fun than watching a bunch of guys past their prime fading into the sunset.

I don't have an issue with team toughness anymore
- VANTEL

Its all talk at this point. I'll buy into the problem being "solved" when I see it. Guddy, Sutter, MDZ, Sbisa, Prust, Tryamkin, Sestito, Skille, and a list of other players were all supposed to be "the solution!" to it. None of them were. Its unlikely that Roussel and Schaller will be.