We will have 8 more next year and more the following years.
Pretty soon when we have many prospects like Flyers did we can make trades too. - VANTEL
Yeah I think it's important to build an excessively good pool, so when you get good, you can trade some of those kids to fill in gaps and compete on a high level.
No...just stating opinion. That you can build a nice prospect pool (in part) with good asset management. - LeftCoaster
Yes if it translates into better & bigger moves. Don’t see much in the way of elite talent or game breakers. Still if they translate into top 6 or top 3 its good but AHL talent is not NHL talent. I’ll take our higher end talent projections til depth proves me wrong. Just my opinion.
Yeah I think it's important to build an excessively good pool, so when you get good, you can trade some of those kids to fill in gaps and compete on a high level. - LeftCoaster
This is very true but getting good is the key so the timing needs to fit. Jets & TBL come to mind.
Over/under on February when "Sure he scores and is good, but Connor McDavid just doesn't do what it takes to win like hit and block shtos" starts trickling out from Edmonton MSM? - Lindenis#1
This is very true but getting good is the key so the timing needs to fit. Jets & TBL come to mind. - Nighthawk
I'm hoping the Canucks are more along the lines of Winnipeg than the NYI in terms of getting good. Both have had good to great draft picks but one looks to be on it's way to great things while one looked good for a flash and then crashed back down to the bottom again.
There is no rumors. It started on SN650 and the guys were hypothetically talking what if in two years Fabbro didn't want to sign with Preds because of a logjam .
Then the idiots like Tanbir text in Gadjovich for Fabbro . The announcers say not a chance . Then the next idiot texts in. Then Tanbir takes it to Twitter
There is absolutely no truth to the idots making a wish list - VANTEL
I refuse to look at anything sn650, andrew walker, moj, pratt, tanbir, etc. I just saw the proposals and thought it was hilarious
Trevor Linden leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism.
Ten years ago, in the aftermath of Dave Nonis’s firing as Canucks general manager and the hiring of Mike Gillis, the great Tom Larscheid took stock of the, er, unorthodox manner in which these franchise-changing decisions were made and made the following statement:
“How are they going to hire anyone who’s good after this?”
This, we remind you, was a couple of days after the end of the regular season and after the Aquilini ownership group had dumped Nonis and plucked Gillis out of the blue. This wasn’t the result of an exhaustive search. It wasn’t the case of scouring the hockey world to identify the best man for the job. Gillis, instead, had been recommended by former client Geoff Courtnall and The Province’s Tony Gallagher and was hired, essentially, after one interview.
Now, it might be a stretch to connect Nonis’s firing and Gillis’s hiring and eventual firing to the latest instalment in the Canucks’ story, but there remains something about Larscheid’s prophecy that rings true 10 years after the fact. The Aquilinis have just undertaken another impetuous regime change, disappearing resident icon Trevor Linden and turning hockey operations over to Jim Benning and John Weisbrod. Perhaps they’ll bring in a new president/overlord to sit atop the organization, as Francesco Aquilini tweeted three weeks ago. Or perhaps they won’t, as Benning stated in a news conference at about the same time.
But whatever the next step is — and word in the hockey world is former Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi has already turned the Canucks down — it can reasonably be asked, who would want to work with this ownership group? Is there a hockey man out there with an established track record who would take a look at the latest mess and say, ‘Now there’s the organization for me.’
If the Aquilinis want to bring in a name — and why do I keep seeing John Tortorella as I type this — they have a unique way of selling themselves. But that’s just one of the issues that hangs over the Canucks after this latest tire fire and it’s hardly the only one.
Linden’s track record in his four years was hardly impeccable. But in his time he laid the groundwork for a new era both on and off the ice. The prospects you know about but, equally as important, was the hockey department Linden built as the Canucks were acquiring those prospects. He’d assembled a group of bright, youngish hockey men, most of whom had deep connections to the Canucks and who seemed to be building toward something. Head coach Travis Green is the most visible Linden hire but, beyond Green, there’s Utica GM Ryan Johnson, assistant coaches Nolan Baumgartner and Manny Malhotra, director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett, director of pro scouting Brett Henning and player development consultant Scott Walker.
Sorry, any hockey department who employs The Wild Thing has to be doing something right.
All these men, to one degree or another, were Linden hires and all are loyal to the Canucks’ former president. So does the new regime headed by Benning and Weisbrod change that?
That’s another question that hangs in the air.
Benning has certainly worked closely with this group and, on the surface, it looks like the Canucks’ GM will step into the vacuum created by Linden’s departure and continue the work of the organization. We were told repeatedly after all, that the Aquilinis, Linden and Benning shared the same vision for this team. OK, in view of recent events, maybe shared isn’t the right term, but there’s still a plan in place and good hockey men in this franchise.
The problem, of course, is things tend to change when a new man starts calling the shots. They want to bring in their own people. They want to build their own organization. Benning and Weisbrod didn’t get to their place in the hockey world by lacking confidence in their abilities, which is why this next phase of Canucks history will be worth watching.
While we’re asking questions, here’s another one: Can the Canucks afford to make another abrupt change in their direction and maintain what’s left of the consumer confidence in their brand?
As for the X-factor in all this, well, if the last decade has taught us anything, it’s taught us predicting the Aquilinis’ next move is an inexact science. Linden was hired to help repair the Canucks’ brand. He believed he was promised autonomy in rebuilding the organization and he was until he wasn’t. Now he joins Gillis, Nonis and others in the Canucks’ ex-wives club.
Still, he leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism. As part of his tweet thread, Francesco Aquilini posted: “A rebuild is a long, slow, gradual process. Everybody needs to be united behind the same vision and pulling in the same direction.”
Funny, that long, slow rebuild was an integral part of Linden’s vision for the team. It’s started. Where it goes from here is anybody’s guess.
Trevor Linden leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism.
Ten years ago, in the aftermath of Dave Nonis’s firing as Canucks general manager and the hiring of Mike Gillis, the great Tom Larscheid took stock of the, er, unorthodox manner in which these franchise-changing decisions were made and made the following statement:
“How are they going to hire anyone who’s good after this?”
This, we remind you, was a couple of days after the end of the regular season and after the Aquilini ownership group had dumped Nonis and plucked Gillis out of the blue. This wasn’t the result of an exhaustive search. It wasn’t the case of scouring the hockey world to identify the best man for the job. Gillis, instead, had been recommended by former client Geoff Courtnall and The Province’s Tony Gallagher and was hired, essentially, after one interview.
Now, it might be a stretch to connect Nonis’s firing and Gillis’s hiring and eventual firing to the latest instalment in the Canucks’ story, but there remains something about Larscheid’s prophecy that rings true 10 years after the fact. The Aquilinis have just undertaken another impetuous regime change, disappearing resident icon Trevor Linden and turning hockey operations over to Jim Benning and John Weisbrod. Perhaps they’ll bring in a new president/overlord to sit atop the organization, as Francesco Aquilini tweeted three weeks ago. Or perhaps they won’t, as Benning stated in a news conference at about the same time.
But whatever the next step is — and word in the hockey world is former Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi has already turned the Canucks down — it can reasonably be asked, who would want to work with this ownership group? Is there a hockey man out there with an established track record who would take a look at the latest mess and say, ‘Now there’s the organization for me.’
If the Aquilinis want to bring in a name — and why do I keep seeing John Tortorella as I type this — they have a unique way of selling themselves. But that’s just one of the issues that hangs over the Canucks after this latest tire fire and it’s hardly the only one.
Linden’s track record in his four years was hardly impeccable. But in his time he laid the groundwork for a new era both on and off the ice. The prospects you know about but, equally as important, was the hockey department Linden built as the Canucks were acquiring those prospects. He’d assembled a group of bright, youngish hockey men, most of whom had deep connections to the Canucks and who seemed to be building toward something. Head coach Travis Green is the most visible Linden hire but, beyond Green, there’s Utica GM Ryan Johnson, assistant coaches Nolan Baumgartner and Manny Malhotra, director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett, director of pro scouting Brett Henning and player development consultant Scott Walker.
Sorry, any hockey department who employs The Wild Thing has to be doing something right.
All these men, to one degree or another, were Linden hires and all are loyal to the Canucks’ former president. So does the new regime headed by Benning and Weisbrod change that?
That’s another question that hangs in the air.
Benning has certainly worked closely with this group and, on the surface, it looks like the Canucks’ GM will step into the vacuum created by Linden’s departure and continue the work of the organization. We were told repeatedly after all, that the Aquilinis, Linden and Benning shared the same vision for this team. OK, in view of recent events, maybe shared isn’t the right term, but there’s still a plan in place and good hockey men in this franchise.
The problem, of course, is things tend to change when a new man starts calling the shots. They want to bring in their own people. They want to build their own organization. Benning and Weisbrod didn’t get to their place in the hockey world by lacking confidence in their abilities, which is why this next phase of Canucks history will be worth watching.
While we’re asking questions, here’s another one: Can the Canucks afford to make another abrupt change in their direction and maintain what’s left of the consumer confidence in their brand?
As for the X-factor in all this, well, if the last decade has taught us anything, it’s taught us predicting the Aquilinis’ next move is an inexact science. Linden was hired to help repair the Canucks’ brand. He believed he was promised autonomy in rebuilding the organization and he was until he wasn’t. Now he joins Gillis, Nonis and others in the Canucks’ ex-wives club.
Still, he leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism. As part of his tweet thread, Francesco Aquilini posted: “A rebuild is a long, slow, gradual process. Everybody needs to be united behind the same vision and pulling in the same direction.”
Funny, that long, slow rebuild was an integral part of Linden’s vision for the team. It’s started. Where it goes from here is anybody’s guess. - LeftCoaster
Happy to hear someone in charge finally say we are in a rebuild.
Trevor Linden leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism.
Ten years ago, in the aftermath of Dave Nonis’s firing as Canucks general manager and the hiring of Mike Gillis, the great Tom Larscheid took stock of the, er, unorthodox manner in which these franchise-changing decisions were made and made the following statement:
“How are they going to hire anyone who’s good after this?”
This, we remind you, was a couple of days after the end of the regular season and after the Aquilini ownership group had dumped Nonis and plucked Gillis out of the blue. This wasn’t the result of an exhaustive search. It wasn’t the case of scouring the hockey world to identify the best man for the job. Gillis, instead, had been recommended by former client Geoff Courtnall and The Province’s Tony Gallagher and was hired, essentially, after one interview.
Now, it might be a stretch to connect Nonis’s firing and Gillis’s hiring and eventual firing to the latest instalment in the Canucks’ story, but there remains something about Larscheid’s prophecy that rings true 10 years after the fact. The Aquilinis have just undertaken another impetuous regime change, disappearing resident icon Trevor Linden and turning hockey operations over to Jim Benning and John Weisbrod. Perhaps they’ll bring in a new president/overlord to sit atop the organization, as Francesco Aquilini tweeted three weeks ago. Or perhaps they won’t, as Benning stated in a news conference at about the same time.
But whatever the next step is — and word in the hockey world is former Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi has already turned the Canucks down — it can reasonably be asked, who would want to work with this ownership group? Is there a hockey man out there with an established track record who would take a look at the latest mess and say, ‘Now there’s the organization for me.’
If the Aquilinis want to bring in a name — and why do I keep seeing John Tortorella as I type this — they have a unique way of selling themselves. But that’s just one of the issues that hangs over the Canucks after this latest tire fire and it’s hardly the only one.
Linden’s track record in his four years was hardly impeccable. But in his time he laid the groundwork for a new era both on and off the ice. The prospects you know about but, equally as important, was the hockey department Linden built as the Canucks were acquiring those prospects. He’d assembled a group of bright, youngish hockey men, most of whom had deep connections to the Canucks and who seemed to be building toward something. Head coach Travis Green is the most visible Linden hire but, beyond Green, there’s Utica GM Ryan Johnson, assistant coaches Nolan Baumgartner and Manny Malhotra, director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett, director of pro scouting Brett Henning and player development consultant Scott Walker.
Sorry, any hockey department who employs The Wild Thing has to be doing something right.
All these men, to one degree or another, were Linden hires and all are loyal to the Canucks’ former president. So does the new regime headed by Benning and Weisbrod change that?
That’s another question that hangs in the air.
Benning has certainly worked closely with this group and, on the surface, it looks like the Canucks’ GM will step into the vacuum created by Linden’s departure and continue the work of the organization. We were told repeatedly after all, that the Aquilinis, Linden and Benning shared the same vision for this team. OK, in view of recent events, maybe shared isn’t the right term, but there’s still a plan in place and good hockey men in this franchise.
The problem, of course, is things tend to change when a new man starts calling the shots. They want to bring in their own people. They want to build their own organization. Benning and Weisbrod didn’t get to their place in the hockey world by lacking confidence in their abilities, which is why this next phase of Canucks history will be worth watching.
While we’re asking questions, here’s another one: Can the Canucks afford to make another abrupt change in their direction and maintain what’s left of the consumer confidence in their brand?
As for the X-factor in all this, well, if the last decade has taught us anything, it’s taught us predicting the Aquilinis’ next move is an inexact science. Linden was hired to help repair the Canucks’ brand. He believed he was promised autonomy in rebuilding the organization and he was until he wasn’t. Now he joins Gillis, Nonis and others in the Canucks’ ex-wives club.
Still, he leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism. As part of his tweet thread, Francesco Aquilini posted: “A rebuild is a long, slow, gradual process. Everybody needs to be united behind the same vision and pulling in the same direction.”
Funny, that long, slow rebuild was an integral part of Linden’s vision for the team. It’s started. Where it goes from here is anybody’s guess. - LeftCoaster
Lombardi is under contract without an out clause. Pure conjecture unless you wish more tampering charges? As for ‘latest mess’ idk what you expected to happen. Is it draft & develop & patience or FA’s version of make money & ignore the obvious. He to inherited most of the retired stars & under his ownership spent to the cap but thats all he’s credited for. More falls at his feet than anyone else’s by country miles.
Trevor Linden leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism.
Ten years ago, in the aftermath of Dave Nonis’s firing as Canucks general manager and the hiring of Mike Gillis, the great Tom Larscheid took stock of the, er, unorthodox manner in which these franchise-changing decisions were made and made the following statement:
“How are they going to hire anyone who’s good after this?”
This, we remind you, was a couple of days after the end of the regular season and after the Aquilini ownership group had dumped Nonis and plucked Gillis out of the blue. This wasn’t the result of an exhaustive search. It wasn’t the case of scouring the hockey world to identify the best man for the job. Gillis, instead, had been recommended by former client Geoff Courtnall and The Province’s Tony Gallagher and was hired, essentially, after one interview.
Now, it might be a stretch to connect Nonis’s firing and Gillis’s hiring and eventual firing to the latest instalment in the Canucks’ story, but there remains something about Larscheid’s prophecy that rings true 10 years after the fact. The Aquilinis have just undertaken another impetuous regime change, disappearing resident icon Trevor Linden and turning hockey operations over to Jim Benning and John Weisbrod. Perhaps they’ll bring in a new president/overlord to sit atop the organization, as Francesco Aquilini tweeted three weeks ago. Or perhaps they won’t, as Benning stated in a news conference at about the same time.
But whatever the next step is — and word in the hockey world is former Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi has already turned the Canucks down — it can reasonably be asked, who would want to work with this ownership group? Is there a hockey man out there with an established track record who would take a look at the latest mess and say, ‘Now there’s the organization for me.’
If the Aquilinis want to bring in a name — and why do I keep seeing John Tortorella as I type this — they have a unique way of selling themselves. But that’s just one of the issues that hangs over the Canucks after this latest tire fire and it’s hardly the only one.
Linden’s track record in his four years was hardly impeccable. But in his time he laid the groundwork for a new era both on and off the ice. The prospects you know about but, equally as important, was the hockey department Linden built as the Canucks were acquiring those prospects. He’d assembled a group of bright, youngish hockey men, most of whom had deep connections to the Canucks and who seemed to be building toward something. Head coach Travis Green is the most visible Linden hire but, beyond Green, there’s Utica GM Ryan Johnson, assistant coaches Nolan Baumgartner and Manny Malhotra, director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett, director of pro scouting Brett Henning and player development consultant Scott Walker.
Sorry, any hockey department who employs The Wild Thing has to be doing something right.
All these men, to one degree or another, were Linden hires and all are loyal to the Canucks’ former president. So does the new regime headed by Benning and Weisbrod change that?
That’s another question that hangs in the air.
Benning has certainly worked closely with this group and, on the surface, it looks like the Canucks’ GM will step into the vacuum created by Linden’s departure and continue the work of the organization. We were told repeatedly after all, that the Aquilinis, Linden and Benning shared the same vision for this team. OK, in view of recent events, maybe shared isn’t the right term, but there’s still a plan in place and good hockey men in this franchise.
The problem, of course, is things tend to change when a new man starts calling the shots. They want to bring in their own people. They want to build their own organization. Benning and Weisbrod didn’t get to their place in the hockey world by lacking confidence in their abilities, which is why this next phase of Canucks history will be worth watching.
While we’re asking questions, here’s another one: Can the Canucks afford to make another abrupt change in their direction and maintain what’s left of the consumer confidence in their brand?
As for the X-factor in all this, well, if the last decade has taught us anything, it’s taught us predicting the Aquilinis’ next move is an inexact science. Linden was hired to help repair the Canucks’ brand. He believed he was promised autonomy in rebuilding the organization and he was until he wasn’t. Now he joins Gillis, Nonis and others in the Canucks’ ex-wives club.
Still, he leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism. As part of his tweet thread, Francesco Aquilini posted: “A rebuild is a long, slow, gradual process. Everybody needs to be united behind the same vision and pulling in the same direction.”
Funny, that long, slow rebuild was an integral part of Linden’s vision for the team. It’s started. Where it goes from here is anybody’s guess. - LeftCoaster
Just thought i would post so we can read this lengthy article again.
Also, your Flyers signed Lombardi to a contract with a no out clause.
Lombardi is under contract without an out clause. Pure conjecture unless you wish more tampering charges? As for ‘latest mess’ idk what you expected to happen. Is it draft & develop & patience or FA’s version of make money & ignore the obvious. He to inherited most of the retired stars & under his ownership spent to the cap but thats all he’s credited for. More falls at his feet than anyone else’s by country miles. - Nighthawk
My expectations are irrelevant, I simply posted an article I read.
Just thought i would post so we can read this lengthy article again.
Also, your Flyers signed Lombardi to a contract with a no out clause. - Reubenkincade
Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
Aug 15 @ 2:08 AM ET
Just read this from Willes in the Province...
Linden and Benning shared the same vision for this team. OK, in view of recent events, maybe shared isn’t the right term, but there’s still a plan in place and good hockey men in this franchise.
While we’re asking questions, here’s another one: Can the Canucks afford to make another abrupt change in their direction and maintain what’s left of the consumer confidence in their brand?
He believed he was promised autonomy in rebuilding the organization and he was until he wasn’t. Now he joins Gillis, Nonis and others in the Canucks’ ex-wives club.
Still, he leaves behind something of substance: a collection of good young prospects, some good hockey men and some reason for optimism. As part of his tweet thread, Francesco Aquilini posted: “A rebuild is a long, slow, gradual process. Everybody needs to be united behind the same vision and pulling in the same direction.”
Funny, that long, slow rebuild was an integral part of Linden’s vision for the team. It’s started. Where it goes from here is anybody’s guess. - LeftCoaster
didn't Linden say a couple seasons ago, we owed it to the Sedins to try to make the playoffs?
FA tweeted about a rebuild but I'm not sure what his definition is or when he believed it started.
How long has Linden been saying rebuild?
so much speculation on the direction behind the scenes and what is put forward publicly to the fanbase. reporters appear to not know any more than us
didn't Linden say a couple seasons ago, we owed it to the Sedins to try to make the playoffs?
FA tweeted about a rebuild but I'm not sure what his definition is or when he believed it started.
How long has Linden been saying rebuild?
so much speculation on the direction behind the scenes and what is put forward publicly to the fanbase. reporters appear to not know any more than us - hillbillydeluxe
Yeah I believe Linden was adamant that they try to compete while the Sedins were on the club.
So many mixed messages, they look foolish with the owner saying one thing and two minutes later the GM saying another thing. The never ending poop-show with this organization!
didn't Linden say a couple seasons ago, we owed it to the Sedins to try to make the playoffs?
FA tweeted about a rebuild but I'm not sure what his definition is or when he believed it started.
How long has Linden been saying rebuild?
so much speculation on the direction behind the scenes and what is put forward publicly to the fanbase. reporters appear to not know any more than us - hillbillydeluxe
poop flows downhill.
I don’t believe TL is so stupid as to go out on a limb against his boss. Why FA tweets anything is beyond me why its not left to the hockey ppl he hires. Was it not obvious how often TL & JB wriggled under questioning from the media & their answers seemed to be more about how to word FA’s dictates & not their own?
