Wouldn't that be a surprise if Sutter comes in and scores more than Hanks 3 goals and gets to play with skill players to drive up his points and we find out he really is a foundational player
- VANTEL

Right up until TG tells Sutter to stop scoring and start preventing goals.

So.... short is going to have a career year?
- Pres.cup

Who is short ? Besides Codes?

Right up until TG tells Sutter to stop scoring and start preventing goals.
- manvanfan

That's why they got Beagle

Ha...you always conveniently talk about Henrik as if he was at one point some fantastic goal scorer. Hank wasn't paid to score goals, ever, he was always one of the best passers in the game, his assists matter.

I'm glad they're gone but in the past 15 years only Joe Thornton had more assists than Henrik, both will be inducted into the HHOF as two of the better setup guys ever.
- LeftCoaster

Who never won a stanley cup?

Wouldn't that be a surprise if Sutter comes in and scores more than Hanks 3 goals and gets to play with skill players to drive up his points and we find out he really is a foundational player
- VANTEL

Oh, forgot to address Sutter. He couldn't score 25 goals playing with Gretzky in his prime. He sucks offensively. Always has. Always will.

Good defensive third line center though.

That's why they got Beagle
- VANTEL

Schaller Beagle Virtanen

Who never won a stanley cup?
- manvanfan

That matters? Or it just makes you feel better to type it

Oh, forgot to address Sutter. He couldn't score 25 goals playing with Gretzky in his prime. He sucks offensively. Always has. Always will.

Good defensive third line center though.
- LeftCoaster

Sounds like playoffs.

Ha...you always conveniently talk about Henrik as if he was at one point some fantastic goal scorer. Hank wasn't paid to score goals, ever, he was always one of the best passers in the game, his assists matter.

I'm glad they're gone but in the past 15 years only Joe Thornton had more assists than Henrik, both will be inducted into the HHOF as two of the better setup guys ever.
- LeftCoaster

That is pretty much what you do with Sutter too

Sounds like playoffs.
- manvanfan

2022

That is pretty much what you do with Sutter too

- VANTEL

you're the one who continually talks as though he's about to breakout offensively.

you're the one who continually talks as though he's about to breakout offensively.
- LeftCoaster

But you are the only one who treats him like a black hole

But you are the ony one who treats him like a black hole
- VANTEL

When used properly, in the bottom six, in a non offensive role, he's a good player.

Yeah that is a given. The bottom will score more than last year. I think this years team will be like the team we saw in the first 20 games last year when the twins were playing 8 minutes a night.
- VANTEL

Our bottom line contributed over 100 points last year, I don't think they'll get moe. 5 on 5 I think they might have a better goal differential.

They'll score less and be scored upon less.

Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson, Hughes, and next years 1st overall pick will carry this team offensively

But you are the only one who treats him like a black hole
- VANTEL

Hard to trust Lefty. He wanted to trade down out of the top 10 in the 2017 draft.

Our bottom line contributed over 100 points last year, I don't think they'll get moe. 5 on 5 I think they might have a better goal differential.

They'll score less and be scored upon less.
- Pres.cup

Zero sum game

When used properly, in the bottom six, in a non offensive role, he's a good player.
- LeftCoaster

Isn't that what I have been telling you for years he is a third line center. One of the best?

This year his role has to change . Lets see if he can do it .

Who is short ? Besides Codes?
- VANTEL

Nighthawk.... he's gonna post a career number of roosters

Our bottom line contributed over 100 points last year, I don't think they'll get moe. 5 on 5 I think they might have a better goal differential.

They'll score less and be scored upon less.
- Pres.cup

You say Nighthawk drinks in the morning , I am pretty sure you must be hammered now if you think our 4 th line scored 100 points last year

Isn't that what I have been telling you for years he is a third line center. One of the best?

This year his role has to change . Lets see if he can do it .
- VANTEL

One of the best, no, he's just average.

Isn't that what I have been telling you for years he is a third line center. One of the best?

This year his role has to change . Lets see if he can do it .
- VANTEL

Could just have EP play center?

One of the best, no, he's just average.
- LeftCoaster

Four teams wanted to trade for him this year because he is average . Got it.

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Four teams wanted to trade for him this year because he is average . Got it.
- VANTEL

If 30 other teams wanted him he'd be above average