If the deal was good enough, yes they would have. They would not have cut off the nose to spite the face.
- Unholy_Goalie

There is 0 proof of this so why bother arguing about it

You could replace Ottawa with SJ and it would still be the same. SJ would never trade Karlsson to Toronto.
- PatC80

Since they’re going for it, and they will have to give up another first in either 2021 or 2022, it’s hiiiighly unlikely...


...but that won’t stop UG from ranting about Leafs’ management somehow failing to capitalize on an opportunity that doesn’t exist.

Sorry man, that's too much to give up for one season of EK. Toronto would not have been able to sign him long term.
- Kinger34

Obviously a contract extension would have to be agreed upon before they make the deal. And obviously, San Jose will extend him after the trade deadline because that's the only way to give him an 8 year deal which is the same the Leafs would have done if they got him instead.

If the deal was good enough, yes they would have. They would not have cut off the nose to spite the face.
- Unholy_Goalie

No they wouldn’t. They got fleeced twice because they wouldn’t trade within the Conference.

No they wouldn’t. They got fleeced twice because they wouldn’t trade within the Conference.
- Steven_Seagull

Or because the best offer was from San Jose because nobody else made a good enough offer to be in the conversation.

Or because the best offer was from San Jose because nobody else made a good enough offer to be in the conversation.
- Unholy_Goalie

If that was the best offer they got then maybe Karlsonn isn’t viewed as good as you think he is by the rest of the league....

If that was the best offer they got then maybe Karlsonn isn’t viewed as good as you think he is by the rest of the league....
- Santo_44

Or that nobody could give him the up front cash or the contract he wanted and didn't feel like taking just a rental unlike San Jose who is okay with either situation but more likely to resign him after the trade deadline passes.

Or because the best offer was from San Jose because nobody else made a good enough offer to be in the conversation.
- Unholy_Goalie

They put a condition into the Karlsson trade that if he plays in the Eastern Conference during the 2018-2019 season, the Sharks will have to give up another first.


They weren’t going to trade Karlsson to the East. Get. Over. It.

They put a condition into the Karlsson trade that if he plays in the Eastern Conference during the 2018-2019 season, the Sharks will have to give up another first.


They weren’t going to trade Karlsson to the East. Get. Over. It.
- Steven_Seagull

Because they got (frank)ed on Hoffman and didn't want San Jose moving him for more than what they got for him. I love how you moved the goal posts though. You start by saying it was just the Leafs then changed to the East. Funny there was no Leaf specific provision though.

If the Leafs made a better offer, they would have been in the conversation, just like Tampa Bay was in the conversation until they couldn't move salary to fit Karlsson's extension.

Or that nobody could give him the up front cash or the contract he wanted and didn't feel like taking just a rental unlike San Jose who is okay with either situation but more likely to resign him after the trade deadline passes.
- Unholy_Goalie

Even for a one year rental that was weak.

They put a condition into the Karlsson trade that if he plays in the Eastern Conference during the 2018-2019 season, the Sharks will have to give up another first.


They weren’t going to trade Karlsson to the East. Get. Over. It.
- Steven_Seagull

He can't. His hardon for EK is spooky to say the least.

If I see him mention "RHD" one more time, I'll track him down and beat the piss out of him.

Even for a one year rental that was weak.
- Santo_44

It was weak because there was nobody else negotiating which is exactly why if the Leafs offered Nylander, Ottawa would have been forced to consider it, if not accept it. Absolutely nothing they got in return for Karlsson is as good as Nylander and that would have been a huge PR win for them especially because they'd be able to better avoid the 1st overall pick odds for Colorado.

He can't. His hardon for EK is spooky to say the least.

If I see him mention "RHD" one more time, I'll track him down and beat the piss out of him.
- sloppyseconds2

RHD.

I'll be waiting.

He can't. His hardon for EK is spooky to say the least.

If I see him mention "RHD" one more time, I'll track him down and beat the piss out of him.
- sloppyseconds2

He only brought up Karlsson because he couldn’t answer my question. Typical.

He only brought up Karlsson because he couldn’t answer my question. Typical.
- Steven_Seagull

Typically weak question you asked. Was Seth Jones available? Was Dougie Hamilton? They still got moved out of nowhere. It's up to the Leafs management to find who is available and make that move.

He only brought up Karlsson because he couldn’t answer my question. Typical.
- Steven_Seagull

About naming an RHD that is available? I wish I could name one. That would make me more valuable than Darren Dreger.

RHD.

I'll be waiting.


- Unholy_Goalie

Fixed!

Typically weak question you asked. Was Seth Jones available? Was Dougie Hamilton? They still got moved out of nowhere. It's up to the Leafs management to find who is available and make that move.
- Unholy_Goalie

Using Hamilton maybe not the best example. Dude was rumoured to be traded for almost 2 years.

Typically weak question you asked. Was Seth Jones available? Was Dougie Hamilton? They still got moved out of nowhere. It's up to the Leafs management to find who is available and make that move.
- Unholy_Goalie

No they weren’t.

The opposing teams had needs to fill. NSH at center and CGY on the left side.

The move filled needs for both sides. If the leafs can find one they will...they won’t do a knee jerk reaction like the Hall for Larsonn trade.

Using Hamilton maybe not the best example. Dude was rumoured to be traded for almost 2 years.
- PatC80

When he got moved from Boston, not really. Even when Calgary moved him to Carolina, that was pretty unexpected. A lot more low key than the Karlsson saga where it was obvious he was a goner by the end of the summer.

No they weren’t.

The opposing teams had needs to fill. NSH at center and CGY on the left side.

The move filled needs for both sides. If the leafs can find one they will...they won’t do a knee jerk reaction like the Hall for Larsonn trade.
- Santo_44

Nylander isn't Hall, first of all. Secondly, Larsson isn't the ideal target either.

Bridge deal Nylander, let him put up points, move his ass when something presents itself, maybe Pietrangelo.

Fixed!
- .HOHO.

Nylander isn't Hall, first of all. Secondly, Larsson isn't the ideal target either.

Bridge deal Nylander, let him put up points, move his ass when something presents itself, maybe Pietrangelo.
- Unholy_Goalie

IMO, Nylander signing a bridge deal is a loss for Dubas and the Leafs.

Typically weak question you asked. Was Seth Jones available? Was Dougie Hamilton? They still got moved out of nowhere. It's up to the Leafs management to find who is available and make that move.
- Unholy_Goalie

It was highly reported Hamilton was available and Nashville was looking for a first line C, so yeah it wasn't out of nowhere

IMO, Nylander signing a bridge deal is a loss for Dubas and the Leafs.
- PatC80

Not if you move him for a top pair RHD after he scores 70-80 points playing with Matthews and Tavares on the PP. It's actually a huge win if the final result is a top pair RHD. Did I mention top pair RHD? Because top pair RHD.

RHD.