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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
Is taking a chance bringing Schneider back really worth it though? Not sure on that one. I like him as a goalie and still think he could be top quality but...
- LordHumungous

His number have been in decline the last two seasons. Don't need him. Van has Nilsson.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 11:57 AM ET
Is taking a chance bringing Schneider back really worth it though? Not sure on that one. I like him as a goalie and still think he could be top quality but...
- LordHumungous


Eriksson can not be bought out. If Schneider sucks you can buy him out
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 11:58 AM ET
Probably because it's a really stupid idea.
- Marwood


Everything to you is stupid .
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 20 @ 11:58 AM ET
Eriksson can not be bought out. If Schneider sucks you can buy him out
- VANTEL

Benning is an idiot.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Everything to you is stupid .
- VANTEL

See above.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:05 PM ET
His number have been in decline the last two seasons. Don't need him. Van has Nilsson.
- manvanfan



You are missing the point . You get out of Erikssons contract and Markstroms last year .
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 20 @ 12:10 PM ET
Probably because it's a really stupid idea.
- Marwood

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
You are missing the point . You get out of Erikssons contract and Markstroms last year .
- VANTEL


This is exactly what you do to me, ignore the parts that make sense and focus on one stupid bit of a post and then becomes your narrative. Now you are the guy who wants to reacquire Schneider, not the guy with a creative solution to getting rid of Eriksson.

PS, I like your idea, I would be all for it
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
You are missing the point . You get out of Erikssons contract and Markstroms last year .
- VANTEL

You would be much better to just buy out Eriksson at the start of the next year.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
The goal was too get better but you're making them worse.
- manvanfan


Bobski plus motte, liepsic and gaunce

+/-

Markstrom plus beagle, eriksson and gagner

Which grouping makes your team better,
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
Bobski plus motte, liepsic and gaunce

+/-

Markstrom plus beagle, eriksson and gagner

Which grouping makes your team better,

- Pres.cup

Neither. Without Bob you could get some actual decent forwards.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
You would be much better to just buy out Eriksson at the start of the next year.
- manvanfan




Baby brain? Or deep sarcasm.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
This is exactly what you do to me, ignore the parts that make sense and focus on one stupid bit of a post and then becomes your narrative. Now you are the guy who wants to reacquire Schneider, not the guy with a creative solution to getting rid of Eriksson.

PS, I like your idea, I would be all for it

- 1970vintage


It is a win win. If Schneider sucks buy him out cap hit two mil per not six like LE and we also get rid of that black hole of a goalie Markstrom
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 20 @ 12:17 PM ET
Neither. Without Bob you could get some actual decent forwards.
- manvanfan



Like beagle?


Neither wasnt an option.

Overpaid Benning scrubs or vezina trophy and replacement level players(who are better then that high priced trash)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
You would be much better to just buy out Eriksson at the start of the next year.
- manvanfan


You don't get it . There is very little savings in buying out Loui his contract is all bonuses which don't offer any savings. You would be better sending Loui down at least then you could save 1 mil a year.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
It is a win win. If Schneider sucks buy him out cap hit two mil per not six like LE and we also get rid of that black hole of a goalie Markstrom
- VANTEL


Let's see if they'd take beagle as well.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:20 PM ET


Baby brain? Or deep sarcasm.

- Pres.cup

0 $1,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $444,444 $5,555,556
2020-21 $1,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $444,444 $5,555,556
2021-22 $3,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $2,444,444 $3,555,556
2022-23 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
2023-24 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
2024-25 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
total cap hit in bold. Two more years and then just about nothing. That's not a big deal at all.

Schneider's buyout next year

SEASON BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT ACTUAL COST SAVINGS FINAL CAP HIT
2019-20 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2020-21 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2021-22 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2022-23 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
2023-24 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
2024-25 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
I'd take smaller cap hit in the long term.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 20 @ 12:21 PM ET
0 $1,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $444,444 $5,555,556
2020-21 $1,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $444,444 $5,555,556
2021-22 $3,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $2,444,444 $3,555,556
2022-23 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
2023-24 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
2024-25 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
total cap hit in bold. Two more years and then just about nothing. That's not a big deal at all.

Schneider's buyout next year

SEASON BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT ACTUAL COST SAVINGS FINAL CAP HIT
2019-20 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2020-21 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2021-22 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2022-23 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
2023-24 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
2024-25 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
I'd take smaller cap hit in the long term.

- manvanfan



Add up the totals and tell me how it compares to just paying him his salary.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:22 PM ET
Add up the totals and tell me how it compares to just paying him his salary.
- Pres.cup

I didn't know it was your money. Forgot you own the team.

As you can read it says take the "lower cap hit over long term"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
You don't get it . There is very little savings in buying out Loui his contract is all bonuses which don't offer any savings. You would be better sending Loui down at least then you could save 1 mil a year.
- VANTEL

So now you want to send Loui down instead of trading him?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:26 PM ET
0 $1,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $444,444 $5,555,556
2020-21 $1,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $444,444 $5,555,556
2021-22 $3,000,000 $6,000,000 $555,556 $2,444,444 $3,555,556
2022-23 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
2023-24 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
2024-25 $0 $0 $555,556 -$555,556 $555,556
total cap hit in bold. Two more years and then just about nothing. That's not a big deal at all.

Schneider's buyout next year

SEASON BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT ACTUAL COST SAVINGS FINAL CAP HIT
2019-20 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2020-21 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2021-22 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,000,000
2022-23 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
2023-24 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
2024-25 $0 $0 $2,000,000 -$2,000,000 $2,000,000
I'd take smaller cap hit in the long term.

- manvanfan



Eriksson 16 mil buy out

Schneider 12 . That is also assuming Schneider is total garbage and needs to be bought out and is not qualified for LTIR

Add on Marksstroms 3.6 mil Canucks save close to 8 mil
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
So now you want to send Loui down instead of trading him?
- manvanfan



Are you staying up too late with the baby?

I said sending him down is a better option that buying him out. Pay attention

Buying out LE Canucks would pay 16 mil in cap hit of his 18 mil over the next 6 years and 14.5 of it in the next three years.

Sending him down would cost Canucks 14.4 mil in the next three years in cap hit.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:35 PM ET
Eriksson 16 mil buy out

Schneider 12 . That is also assuming Schneider is total garbage and needs to be bought out and is not qualified for LTIR

Add on Marksstroms 3.6 mil Canucks save close to 8 mil

- VANTEL

So you are paying Schneider plus you then need a starting and back up goalie. I don' see the savings anywhere.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 20 @ 12:36 PM ET
Are you staying up too late with the baby?

I said sending him down is a better option that buying him out. Pay attention

Buying out LE Canucks would pay 16 mil in cap hit of his 18 mil over the next 6 years and 14.5 of it in the next three years.

Sending him down would cost Canucks 14.4 mil in the next three years in cap hit.

- VANTEL

Who cares about how much he is getting paid. The cap hit is what matters. Funny thing is I don't care what they do with LE. Just think the trade is stupid.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 20 @ 12:39 PM ET
So you are paying Schneider plus you then need a starting and back up goalie. I don' see the savings anywhere.
- manvanfan


Schneider and Nilsson this year, Schneider and Demko next year, Demko and Schneider (if he can still play) or other. If Demko isn't the answer they need a starter and a backup anyway...
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