Haven't you heard , it won't last
- VANTEL

lol true.

lol true.
- LordHumungous

I was stirring the pot. Coach Q probably will sit back for this year and next and enjoy his 6 mil doing nothing. I bet he takes the time off.Crazy not to.

Lawsuit? Come on. That's ridiculous.
Firstly, it's not a slam dunk that there is an expectation of privacy in an uber. Like a cab/taxi, it could be argued that you're in public and therefore there is no expectaton of privacy.
Secondly, to quantify the damages in this situation would be almost impossible.
Thirdly, I'm not sure the driver made any money by throwing it on twitter. Even if he did sell it to tmz or whomever, point 1 rules this situation.

Put another way, act like an idiot in public, somebody will film you. If you're a celebrity (however minor) expect said video to go viral. Uber is like a taxi is like a bus. It is not your living room. There is not nor should there be an expectation of privacy.

I'm not saying the uber driver wasn't a jerk. Total d!ck move.
- RealityChecker

Uber has deep pockets, they should have a policy for that. There is a difference between an expectation of privacy and being recorded without permission/notice. ThInk about every call you have made in the past several years to a 1-800 "this call is being recorded for..." if the team can recover without having to make changes, no harm I guess. If not, there will be significant financial repercussions.

Except for all those cup rings.
- bloatedmosquito

yeah. except that.

I was stirring the pot. Coach Q probably will sit back for this year and next and enjoy his 6 mil doing nothing. I bet he takes the time off.Crazy not to.
- VANTEL

Without a doubt. Earned it he has.

Game day, an easy two points in the Motor City?

3-0 Nucks, Petey with his first career trick.

Game day, an easy two points in the Motor City?

3-0 Nucks, Petey with his first career trick.
- 1970vintage

You're doing it wrong.
You're supposed to predict defeat and point out the players you hate the most so that they can score and make you eat your words.

Joel Quenville fired from Blackhawks
- Codes1087

If Dorion was smart, he would chase him as the HC for Ottawa. But Melnyk wont spend the money on a real coach.

Uber has deep pockets, they should have a policy for that.
- 1970vintage[1] [2] There is a difference between an expectation of privacy and being recorded without permission/notice. ThInk about every call you have made in the past several years to a 1-800 "this call is being recorded for..." if the team can recover without having to make changes, no harm I guess. If not, there will be significant financial repercussions.

[1] the fact that the company has deep pockets makes them a target for frivolous lawsuits but that doesn't mean that they are responsible in this instance. Even if it can be argued that there "should have a policy for that," (and we don't know that they don't) it doesn't mean that they were responsible.

You would be arguing that the driver was negligent in releasing the video. It would then be a bigger stretch to say that the company could have prevented it.

Lots of issues surrounding this: uber has contractors not employees (from my understanding) so it's not as simple as suing an employee and the company.

Uber would have a good position to argue that it was solely the driver's negligence (and he's contracted to uber and is not their employee). Anyway, like you said, they have deep pockets. With deep pockets come expensive lawyers at the ready.

[2] The issue of expectation of privacy is where they are. They are in "public." In public, there is no expectation of privacy. I do grant that this is the biggest legal issue here. Being at home or on the phone and being recorded is not the same as this situation.

Drivers (from buses to taxis to ubers) have in car cameras for safety. If you travel via them, you should know that. If you don't, i don't think that's a defense.

You said that you have to have permission to record. No, you don't as long as the person is in public. There are restrictions on that and you noted the biggest one (financial gain). However, the issues are: was there an expectation of privacy and did the driver profit. I think it's a loser for the players on both issues.

Finally, it would be the players who would have to sue. It would be an enormously stupid lawsuit basically arguing that "you embarrassed us by publicising what we said so we're going to amplify the message and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars hoping to get a few bucks back."

If Dorion was smart, he would chase him as the HC for Ottawa. But Melnyk wont spend the money on a real coach.
- Retinalz

I'm betting Edmonton gets him. Not that Todd McLellan is a bad coach, but the whole winning pedigree thing will probably come into play after they falter again this year

The real bias comes from those that want desperately to see the good because they are so emotiobally invested in the team. That is why they have continually justified every move that this administration has made in the present.

Those same emotionally biased fanatics then will acknowledge the past mistakes (reversing course) while again justifying everything in the present.

The so-called "biased" people you note are just those that have maintained a consistent position. To you that seems like incessant whining. To some, it's being realistic. 😃
- RealityChecker

I'm betting Edmonton gets him. Not that Todd McLellan is a bad coach, but the whole winning pedigree thing will probably come into play after they falter again this year
- WhiteLie

It still won't help them.

It still won't help them.
- Marwood

Nope, but Chiarelli needs a fall guy to keep his job a little longer so Todd will probably be it

Elias Pettersson has the team 9-6 and you want a coaching swap?

lol
- LordHumungous

Correction.....lol

Jett Woo's hit from last night

https://twitter.com/MJWAR...tatus/1059680163888328705

Forgive me if this has already been posted:

https://theprovince.com/s...that-ended-his-nhl-career

The real bias comes from those that want desperately to see the good because they are so emotiobally invested in the team. That is why they have continually justified every move that this administration has made in the present.

Those same emotionally biased fanatics then will acknowledge the past mistakes (reversing course) while again justifying everything in the present.

The so-called "biased" people you note are just those that have maintained a consistent position. To you that seems like incessant whining. To some, it's being realistic. 😃
- RealityChecker

Yes yes yes, this is correct

I'm betting Edmonton gets him. Not that Todd McLellan is a bad coach, but the whole winning pedigree thing will probably come into play after they falter again this year
- WhiteLie

Glad to see you make a rare appearance.

Nope, but Chiarelli needs a fall guy to keep his job a little longer so Todd will probably be it
- WhiteLie

I am actually surprised either CHiapet and MClennen have a job still.

Glad to see you make a rare appearance.
- Makita

I still check in, but don't have much else to add to the latest around Benning sucks, the grinders are overpaid, fancy stats, or play the kids

I came by a few games ago to say I really liked Goldobin running the halfwall on PP2 but there was a deep debate on one of the usual topics that I didn't want to interrupt

Jett Woo's hit from last night

https://twitter.com/MJWAR...tatus/1059680163888328705
- Codes1087

I am actually surprised either CHiapet and MClennen have a job still.
- thundachunk

They should really face a lot more scrutiny than they do. The trades aside, they haven't progressed enough or shown any consistency in improving, despite having the best player on the planet. That team has no chemistry

[1] the fact that the company has deep pockets makes them a target for frivolous lawsuits but that doesn't mean that they are responsible in this instance. Even if it can be argued that there "should have a policy for that," (and we don't know that they don't) it doesn't mean that they were responsible.

You would be arguing that the driver was negligent in releasing the video. It would then be a bigger stretch to say that the company could have prevented it.

Lots of issues surrounding this: uber has contractors not employees (from my understanding) so it's not as simple as suing an employee and the company.

Uber would have a good position to argue that it was solely the driver's negligence (and he's contracted to uber and is not their employee). Anyway, like you said, they have deep pockets. With deep pockets come expensive lawyers at the ready.


- RealityChecker[2] The issue of expectation of privacy is where they are. They are in "public." In public, there is no expectation of privacy. I do grant that this is the biggest legal issue here. Being at home or on the phone and being recorded is not the same as this situation.

Drivers (from buses to taxis to ubers) have in car cameras for safety. If you travel via them, you should know that. If you don't, i don't think that's a defense.

You said that you have to have permission to record. No, you don't as long as the person is in public. There are restrictions on that and you noted the biggest one (financial gain). However, the issues are: was there an expectation of privacy and did the driver profit. I think it's a loser for the players on both issues.

Finally, it would be the players who would have to sue. It would be an enormously stupid lawsuit basically arguing that "you embarrassed us by publicising what we said so we're going to amplify the message and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars hoping to get a few bucks back."

Bottom line is the video was probably sold for profit and regardless of the 'public' nature of is in violation of multiple FOIP (freedom of information protection) acts.

I get the fact that Uber needs cameras in the vehicles for security purposes, but publicly submitting that video should have massive repercussions vs Uber or the driver themselves. Like you said the players should go after him/her.

I work for a gov't municipality and we have security cameras everywhere. If I sold a video of a celebrity doing something really stupid off our security recordings I would be in huge trouble. Not only would I lose my job, I would get sued and so would the municipality.

Regardless of the nature of right/wrong and how people feel about it they need to figure out how it got leaked and if it was being used for profit. If it was then Uber and that driver should be taken to court.

Nope, but Chiarelli needs a fall guy to keep his job a little longer so Todd will probably be it
- WhiteLie

Regardless of who is there at the end of the reg season the Oil will be in the PO's.

Correction.....lol
- LeftCoaster

lol...no props for Green?

Coach of the year according to Cherry...lol