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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
HUH?
- Unholy-Goalie


Uber driver.. Try to keep up
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
no way.
the car is his.
he has the right to record what's happening in his property.
and he has the right to use the recordings however he wishes.

- plantheparade


Its a public place man, its all fine and dandy that its their own car...but when you are working for uber using your property it is now a public place.

You are not allowed to film someone without their consent.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:44 AM ET
I'll do you one better; Hyman is the best PK forward in the entire league.
- mcleafs

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 10:45 AM ET
He had 2 shot attempts last night in 7 mins - 14 against.

Not really results but ok.

- annoyed


one game

care to look at the previous 14 games?

Or because we are Leaf fans is the last game played the only game we can use?
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Nov 7 @ 10:45 AM ET
I'll do you one better; Hyman is the best PK forward in the entire league.
- mcleafs


I'm not sure about that....not even sure he's the best on the Leafs.

I think we have a lot of good pk guys

Brown
Kap
Johnsson
Lindholm
Not the Goat.


bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 7 @ 10:45 AM ET
Just doesn't seem stable a lot of the times, stumbling around.

Maybe he's a drinker...who knows.

- annoyed



Maybe he hurt his ankle playing basketball.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 7 @ 10:46 AM ET

- AdamFrench


A (frank)ing monster.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
Yup, his dad thought he was better than he was.
- Fakepartofme

Yeah it is kind of poopty

I've always liked Nylander. He will be without a doubt an elite winger in this league...I just feel his time with the Leafs is over.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
Maybe he hurt his ankle playing basketball.
- bixll


Or maybe, he just plain sucks?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
Fake news. The best PK forward in the league is Mitch Marner, followed by Patrice Bergeron.
- PatC80

Exactly the reason he's getting 18 million from his hometown Markham Coyotes.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:47 AM ET
A (frank)ing monster.
- Scabeh

It's nuts how he is getting better in his early thirties. Only other guys I remember having that were Datsyuk and St. Louis.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:48 AM ET
Nope.

Maybe you'd like to quote the law for us, instead of just telling us what you think is true?

- TrashPanda


it's the differnce between Uber and buses/planes/regular taxi - last category are way more heavily regulated on use of recordings (mainly for safety reasons recordings can be used).

people have to understand that when you take an uber, it is not a public service, but a private service - the car being private property of the driver.
state laws differ on this, but in general it makes alot of sense that people can record in their own properties.

As stated in the customer TOS and driver contracts with Uber (the same as any other rideshare), Uber can AND WILL collect any and all available data from the app and any device systems allowed to the app as it is installed on your phone or tablet.
That is very ambiguous, but that part of TOS might cover the recording and use of recordings as well.

Last point: very likely that the uber car had a sign/sticker in it saying that passengers were being recorded (and that the footage could be used). Not sure if the driver has to explicitly make passengers aware of the particular sign (don't think so).
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Nov 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
Maybe he hurt his ankle playing basketball.
- bixll



It was my foot, and its fine now!!!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
Exactly the reason he's getting 18 million from his hometown Markham Coyotes.
- AdamFrench



Babcock is showcasing Marner for a trade.. Plays on the PP, and the PK. Plays on the top line with Zach Hyman.
It's evident that Marner is gonna be dealt, probably for a package of picks and prospects. That will really set us up nicely in 5 years.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
Its a public place man, its all fine and dandy that its their own car...but when you are working for uber using your property it is now a public place.

You are not allowed to film someone without their consent.

- Santo_44


a private car is not a public place, mister.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
It's nuts how he is getting better in his early thirties. Only other guys I remember having that were Datsyuk and St. Louis.
- AdamFrench


Especially considering how badly hurt he got early in his career.

The man's body is breaking down though.... he's just ridiculously good.

There's a reason why team Canada puts him with Crosby.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 7 @ 10:50 AM ET


It was my foot, and its fine now!!!

- annoyed


TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
Its a public place man, its all fine and dandy that its their own car...but when you are working for uber using your property it is now a public place.

You are not allowed to film someone without their consent.

- Santo_44


This is not correct either.

If you are indeed in a public place then anyone can film you and do whatever they like with the footage - you have no right to it, unless they do something illegal with it.

The driver had the right to film the contents of his car for security purposes, and release said video if (for example) an occupant of the car willfully damaged his vehicle. However, he would only be able to release the video to the police or perhaps his insurance company.

There was intent to injure the reputations of the occupants when the driver released the video on Twitter, and is legally liable for that. I'm sure there are several clauses in Uber's contract that cover this sort of behaviour, which is why they have grounds to terminate his contract. The players in the car could sue the driver for damages, but it's unlikely that they'll do that (see: Streisand Effect).
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:51 AM ET
Just don't say or do stupid poop publicly if you can avoid it. Everybody has a phone and everybody is looking to be "Instafamous" on the interwebz.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Just don't say or do stupid poop publicly if you can avoid it. Everybody has a phone and everybody is looking to be "Instafamous" on the interwebz.
- AdamFrench


That's asking alot of Matt Douchene.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
it's the differnce between Uber and buses/planes/regular taxi - last category are way more heavily regulated on use of recordings (mainly for safety reasons recordings can be used).

people have to understand that when you take an uber, it is not a public service, but a private service - the car being private property of the driver.
state laws differ on this, but in general it makes alot of sense that people can record in their own properties.

As stated in the customer TOS and driver contracts with Uber (the same as any other rideshare), Uber can AND WILL collect any and all available data from the app and any device systems allowed to the app as it is installed on your phone or tablet.
That is very ambiguous, but that part of TOS might cover the recording and use of recordings as well.

Last point: very likely that the uber car had a sign/sticker in it saying that passengers were being recorded (and that the footage could be used). Not sure if the driver has to explicitly make passengers aware of the particular sign (don't think so).

- plantheparade


You are flat out wrong here.

Ontario recording laws
Generally, it is illegal to secretly record oral communications between two or more people unless you have the consent of at least one of the individuals involved. For pure video recording with no sound, however, you may have greater freedom to secretly tape people.

https://help.uber.com/par...b6-45fe-9d7d-911842d21c8b


Uber allows driver-partners to install and use video cameras to record riders for purposes of safety.

Please note that local regulations may require individuals using recording equipment in vehicles to fully disclose to riders that they are being recorded in or around a vehicle and obtain consent.

Please check local regulations in your city to determine if these apply.
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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 7 @ 10:55 AM ET


It was my foot, and its fine now!!!

- annoyed

TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
it's the differnce between Uber and buses/planes/regular taxi - last category are way more heavily regulated on use of recordings (mainly for safety reasons recordings can be used).

people have to understand that when you take an uber, it is not a public service, but a private service - the car being private property of the driver.
state laws differ on this, but in general it makes alot of sense that people can record in their own properties.

As stated in the customer TOS and driver contracts with Uber (the same as any other rideshare), Uber can AND WILL collect any and all available data from the app and any device systems allowed to the app as it is installed on your phone or tablet.
That is very ambiguous, but that part of TOS might cover the recording and use of recordings as well.

Last point: very likely that the uber car had a sign/sticker in it saying that passengers were being recorded (and that the footage could be used). Not sure if the driver has to explicitly make passengers aware of the particular sign (don't think so).

- plantheparade


I have never been in an Uber where there was a sticker anywhere saying that I was being recorded for any reason.

The issue is that the driver intended to injure the reputation of the players when he released the video, and that's where he is legally liable. This is where Uber has grounds to terminate his contract and is likely to use it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 10:56 AM ET
This is not correct either.

If you are indeed in a public place then anyone can film you and do whatever they like with the footage - you have no right to it, unless they do something illegal with it.

The driver had the right to film the contents of his car for security purposes, and release said video if (for example) an occupant of the car willfully damaged his vehicle. However, he would only be able to release the video to the police or perhaps his insurance company.

There was intent to injure the reputations of the occupants when the driver released the video on Twitter, and is legally liable for that. I'm sure there are several clauses in Uber's contract that cover this sort of behaviour, which is why they have grounds to terminate his contract. The players in the car could sue the driver for damages, but it's unlikely that they'll do that (see: Streisand Effect).

- TrashPanda


check my post above
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:56 AM ET
That's asking alot of Matt Douchene.
- Scabeh

Waiting for spatso's treatise on how this is all about the Lebreton Flats project.
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