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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
We covered this.

Recording the video was perfectly fine.

Releasing it with the intent to injure the player's reputation was not.

Please keep up!

- TrashPanda

I like UG better

at least he talks in cirlces about hockey
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 11:38 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...e-leafs-william-nylander/

What could we get from Minnesota?
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 7 @ 11:38 AM ET
I like UG better

at least he talks in cirlces about hockey

- Santo_44


LOL - point taken.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 7 @ 11:41 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/five-potential-trade-destinations-maple-leafs-william-nylander/

What could we get from Minnesota?

- PatC80


Trade Nylander to the Leafs in exchange for 7.25 million/yr
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 7 @ 11:43 AM ET
We covered this.

Recording the video was perfectly fine.

Releasing it with the intent to injure the player's reputation was not.

Please keep up!

- TrashPanda


nice back tracking.
there is no law against him doing it - i was mainly responding to the people saying it was illegal for him to do so, and that uber should 'fire' him.
(we all agree it is a sleezy move).
so we agree he could record.

on the publication of the recordings:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal...ks-associated-publication
really nothing the players can really work with.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 11:43 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/five-potential-trade-destinations-maple-leafs-william-nylander/

What could we get from Minnesota?

- PatC80


Spurgeon plus Greenway

would be awesome for the Leafs. Still think Carolina will pay the most though.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 7 @ 11:45 AM ET
What does everyone think of the Sens vid that was released...legal or illegal?

who cares....it’s the Sens 🕺🏻
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
Trade Nylander to the Leafs in exchange for 7.25 million/yr
- TheMussel



An overpay;

Maybe Nylander for Dumba and Eric Staal?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Spurgeon plus Greenway

would be awesome for the Leafs. Still think Carolina will pay the most though.

- Santo_44

Would rather Dumba to be honest, as he is a RHD.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
An overpay;

Maybe Nylander for Dumba and Eric Staal?

- PatC80


Would you consider that an overpay because of the amount of money or because of the cap hit?

Did a quick calculation

Let's say the Leafs pay Nylander 12-8-7-6-6-6, he gets 45 million over 6 years with a cap hit of 7.5 million dollars. Except if he signs on November 30, that means his cap hit for this year would be 11 million and his cap hit in all subsequent years will be 6.8 million.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
Would you consider that an overpay because of the amount of money or because of the cap hit?

Did a quick calculation

Let's say the Leafs pay Nylander 12-8-7-6-6-6, he gets 45 million over 6 years with a cap hit of 7.5 million dollars. Except if he signs on November 30, that means his cap hit for this year would be 11 million and his cap hit in all subsequent years will be 6.8 million.

- TheMussel



Because of cap and in terms of value to the team. There are 5 guys who are more valuable to us than Nylander

1 Matthews;
2 Tavares;
3 Marner;
4 Rielly;
5 Andersen;
6 Nylander;

How much $$ can Nylander expect, when he is our sixth best player?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
Because of cap and in terms of value to the team. There are 5 guys who are more valuable to us than Nylander

1 Matthews;
2 Tavares;
3 Marner;
4 Rielly;
5 Andersen;
6 Nylander;

How much $$ can Nylander expect, when he is our sixth best player?

- PatC80

8mil
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 7 @ 12:00 PM ET
Because of cap and in terms of value to the team. There are 5 guys who are more valuable to us than Nylander

1 Matthews;
2 Tavares;
3 Marner;
4 Rielly;
5 Andersen;
6 Nylander;

How much $$ can Nylander expect, when he is our sixth best player?

- PatC80


So if we can make him fit along with Matthews and Marner, we still shouldn't do it because he doesn't fit the hierarchy?

I think I provided an example where the cap hit starts to make sense.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
8mil
- AdamFrench


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
So if we can make him fit along with Matthews and Marner, we still shouldn't do it because he doesn't fit the hierarchy?

I think I provided an example where the cap hit starts to make sense.

- TheMussel


It never makes sense.

Matthews is going to hold out for every possible cent or he will sign the highest offer-sheet.

They will have to pay the same for Marner, because he is better than Matthews.

There is no room for Nylander.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
So if we can make him fit along with Matthews and Marner, we still shouldn't do it because he doesn't fit the hierarchy?

I think I provided an example where the cap hit starts to make sense.

- TheMussel


If we can make him fit, and paying him $7.5M per season are not one in the same.

It depends on where, or how much you value him.
Is he ahead of Rielly and Andersen? Is he ahead of Marner/Matthews/Tavares?
Is he valued equally to Nazem Kadri?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
Would rather Dumba to be honest, as he is a RHD.
- PatC80

So is Spurgeon.

Dumba would be a one for one and the Wild might even say no to that.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Nov 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
It never makes sense.

Matthews is going to hold out for every possible cent or he will sign the highest offer-sheet.

They will have to pay the same for Marner, because he is better than Matthews.

There is no room for Nylander.

- Aetherial

Didn't think it was to early to be drinking, that's why I too am drinking.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
So is Spurgeon.

Dumba would be a one for one and the Wild might even say no to that.

- Santo_44


I thought Spurgeon was LHD. My bad. Still Dumba is younger. I would consider doing that deal. One for one.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
Because of cap and in terms of value to the team. There are 5 guys who are more valuable to us than Nylander

1 Matthews;
2 Tavares;
3 Marner;
4 Rielly;
5 Andersen;
6 Nylander;

How much $$ can Nylander expect, when he is our sixth best player?

- PatC80

OMG, you're Steve Simmons
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 7 @ 12:08 PM ET
We covered this.

Recording the video was perfectly fine.

Releasing the video with the intent to injure the player's reputation was not.

Please keep up!

- TrashPanda



The motive for releasing a legally recorded conversation is irrelevant. Their comments were news and were released as news. Uber policy only says that drivers need to adhere to local policy laws and the driver did so as Arizona is a single party release jurisdiction - either party to a recorded conversation can release it.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 12:09 PM ET
OMG, you're Steve Simmons
- walshyleafsfan


Huh?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 12:09 PM ET
OMG, you're Steve Simmons
- walshyleafsfan

Stop doxing people.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
I thought Spurgeon was LHD. My bad. Still Dumba is younger. I would consider doing that deal. One for one.
- PatC80

Won't work in the end.

The Wild can't take the extra salary Nylander brings.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
Won't work in the end.

The Wild can't take the extra salary Nylander brings.

- Santo_44


then add in Eric Staal, a UFA at season's end.
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