Does Teravainen actually change much though? Aside from the fact that he's actually playing and Nylander isn't, you're still getting a pending RFA coming off of a 64 point season that's going to command ~$7 Million per year.
- BINGO!

Teravainen would be similar in terms of production. Hopefully, he won't ask for Nylander type money.

Whatever it is it feels like it's going to have to be pretty big.
- BINGO!

Nylander for Hamilton or GTFO.

My thoughts exactly. How many Leafs games do Dudley and Co. need to attend?
- PatC80

Perhaps they just want to see some good hockey for a change?

That greedy SOB doesn't sound very much like a team player.
- TheMussel

Nylander for Hamilton or GTFO.
- Unholy_Goalie

Here's the thing though, if a potential deal with Carolina only involved Nylander. Why would Carolina scouts and reps be at the last 5 Leaf home games?

Perhaps they just want to see some good hockey for a change?
- TrashPanda

good point, I never thought of it that way.

Does Teravainen actually change much though? Aside from the fact that he's actually playing and Nylander isn't, you're still getting a pending RFA coming off of a 64 point season that's going to command ~$7 Million per year.
- BINGO!

Leafs will just keep on trading the pending RFAs.
So'll they take Teravainen this year, then trade him for Mantha year after, then trade Mantha for Vilardi, etc. etc.

I feel:

- Matthews will take 11
- Marner will take 8
- Willie will take it in the ass and sit out. or the offer of 6.2
- bixll

If Marner keeps playing with Tavares and keeps leading the team in points, 8 would be great for the Leafs but not for him. Marner keeps increasing his value year by year and is showing he can be just as valuable as Matthews. He doesn't score goals the same way but his assists create just as much offense and his defense, which was always very good, is also improving every game.

Here's the thing though, if a potential deal with Carolina only involved Nylander. Why would Carolina scouts and reps be at the last 5 Leaf home games?
- PatC80

Nylander, Gardiner, and the Goat's chipotle runs stained underwear for Hamilton and Pesce

Teravainen would be similar in terms of production. Hopefully, he won't ask for Nylander type money.
- PatC80

Why would two players with similar production be looking for significantly different paycheques?

TT is good and he can play all three forward positions.

Perhaps they just want to see some good hockey for a change?
- TrashPanda

Why would two players with similar production be looking for significantly different paycheques?

TT is good and he can play all three forward positions.
- BINGO!

At the same time...

Leafs will just keep on trading the pending RFAs.
So'll they take Teravainen this year, then trade him for Mantha year after, then trade Mantha for Vilardi, etc. etc.
- plantheparade

Here's the thing though, if a potential deal with Carolina only involved Nylander. Why would Carolina scouts and reps be at the last 5 Leaf home games?
- PatC80

Because they probably think Hamilton is worth more than Nylander and are scouting the extra piece or two to make the deal fair.

That being said, if they want Brown or Johnsson or any other spare part to make the deal happen, so be it. No problem.

Perhaps they just want to see some good hockey for a change?
- TrashPanda

It's basically the same thing it's just one team can actually score goals.

Nylander, Gardiner, and the Goat's chipotle runs stained underwear for Hamilton and Pesce
- TheMussel

Deal. I would be all over that, like chipotle sauce on underwear.

Why would two players with similar production be looking for significantly different paycheques?

TT is good and he can play all three forward positions.
- BINGO!

Maybe TT really wants to be a Maple Leaf? You know, unlike WN

Because they probably think Hamilton is worth more than Nylander and are scouting the extra piece or two to make the deal fair.

That being said, if they want Brown or Johnsson or any other spare part to make the deal happen, so be it. No problem.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'd be stunned if they even considered trading Hamilton. Dundon wants recognizable names. Stars. Dougie is one of the very very few they have.

Maybe TT really wants to be a Maple Leaf? You know, unlike WN
- PatC80

Maybe. Maybe he and Kap are close? Who knows.

I'd be stunned if they even considered trading Hamilton. Dundon wants recognizable names. Stars. Dougie is one of the very very few they have.
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nonsense, what about......

Oh i dunno, ......

Jordan Staal! He's got a famous brother right?

Maybe. Maybe he and Kap are close? Who knows.
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That's the spirit.

nonsense, what about......

Oh i dunno, ......

Jordan Staal! He's got a famous brother right?
- TheMussel

Marc Staal is ok, but he has struggled the last few years with concussion issues.

Here's the thing though, if a potential deal with Carolina only involved Nylander. Why would Carolina scouts and reps be at the last 5 Leaf home games?
- PatC80

I think we'd have to add Nylander + for Hamilton.

I'd be stunned if they even considered trading Hamilton. Dundon wants recognizable names. Stars. Dougie is one of the very very few they have.
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If Nylander is the guy they're getting in return, their star power is restored. Plus, Nylander is a pretty boy. Female attendance will skyrocket.

Marc Staal is ok, but he has struggled the last few years with concussion issues.
- PatC80

That and he's terribly slow and out of place in the way the game is played now.