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Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 28 @ 12:00 AM ET
Agree with Hammar!

Of the candidates mentioned, I vote for Hunter as wellđź‘Ť
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:04 AM ET
Per twitter:

“TK nearly in tears sitting on the bench in front of his stall after this loss”.

Carry on my wayward son.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 28 @ 12:04 AM ET
Voracek saying the team played scared and when asked about the Pittsburgh game Saturday says I don't think it's ever a good time to go to Pittsburgh. I'll give him one thing at least he's honest lol .
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:12 AM ET
Per twitter:

“TK nearly in tears sitting on the bench in front of his stall after this loss”.

Carry on my wayward son.

- flyer_nutter


if i'm in that room, i'm probably flipping a table.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:13 AM ET
I need to be told how to feel.
- flyer_nutter


Shame

Remorse

Hatred

With your hands
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:14 AM ET
Disgusting loss. What will it take for these players to get their head out of their asses!
- MJL


A new coach?

Someone to explain to them hockey fundamentals?

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:15 AM ET
Agree with Hammar!

Of the candidates mentioned, I vote for Hunter as wellđź‘Ť

- Hokeeguy9


i'm sick to my stomach over all of this....the last 7 years.

i've been quick to point out bob's playoff failures, but jfc, that guy should be our goalie right now. let's just start with that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:17 AM ET
Need be tanking hard now

Someone brought up that this team reminds them of that stale Buffalo team that was kept together way too long circa 2010-2014. Man I think they nailed it
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:17 AM ET
Hakstol to rearrange the locker room stalls and bake them a cake
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:18 AM ET
I need to be told how to feel.
- flyer_nutter

we fired hexy like you wanted and they still suck
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:18 AM ET
Need be tanking hard now
- Just5

LOSE FOR HUGHES!
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Nov 28 @ 12:23 AM ET
Hak needs to whisper better into the players ears.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:29 AM ET
LOSE FOR HUGHES!
- 2Real


Not gonna happen
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:31 AM ET
LOSE FOR HUGHES!
- 2Real


29th spot but work to do. If Kings pull it out tonight we are 3 points out of 31.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:43 AM ET
Kings did it!!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:55 AM ET
At this point, I'm kind of leaning toward a new HC/GM - and selling at this deadline, or to be more specific, not making move to get a fart at the playoffs.

How did it come to all this? Jesus Christ.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:08 AM ET
Take it for what its worth:

"Nope, the main reason was something you didn’t really hear at the press conference.

Hextall was fired because his relationships with a lot of people in the organization soured and he was difficult to work with. He was a micromanager of the highest order. He refused input from others – including his bosses. He kept his cards close to the vest and everyone had a hard time penetrating his well-guarded castle for one.

Sure, you heard Holmgren use words like “unyielding” and “stubborn” to describe Hextall, and he qualified them in a positive light – saying that Hextall never wavered on what he thought was best for the team.

But, the underlying feeling is that his reign as general manager was oppressive – and it was felt that way from the locker room, to the coaches’ offices, to the management team, to the executive offices of the Wells Fargo Center, to the alumni, to the employees of the organization.

You name it, Hextall tried to control it. And eventually, that’s going to bring bad feelings.

Hextall wanted everyone to step in line, and if they didn’t, he was a bit surly with them. Rehabbing players were not allowed to talk to the media. Nor were assistant coaches.

Want to know what Ian Laperriere thinks about his terrible penalty kill or Kris Knoblauch thinks about his struggling power play? Sorry. You can’t ask.

All of this control would have been fine if there was a modicum of success on the ice or at the turnstiles.​"

https://www.crossingbroad...terday-and-not-later.html
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:14 AM ET
At this point, I'm kind of leaning toward a new HC/GM - and selling at this deadline, or to be more specific, not making move to get a fart at the playoffs.

How did it come to all this? Jesus Christ.

- flyer_nutter


Well I would agree. I read through the transcript again trying to figure out if that’s on the table. They talk about not wanting to miss out on the deadline. But the deadline is not typically good for lateral swaps or the hockey trades. It is roster players for futures.

I am trying to hold out hope that they were just frustrated with overall inaction...and maybe they want a guy in here to identify the core players young or old and move on from anyone else that’s not. If they want that process expedited...then I’m ok.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:16 AM ET
Take it for what its worth:

"Nope, the main reason was something you didn’t really hear at the press conference.

Hextall was fired because his relationships with a lot of people in the organization soured and he was difficult to work with. He was a micromanager of the highest order. He refused input from others – including his bosses. He kept his cards close to the vest and everyone had a hard time penetrating his well-guarded castle for one.

Sure, you heard Holmgren use words like “unyielding” and “stubborn” to describe Hextall, and he qualified them in a positive light – saying that Hextall never wavered on what he thought was best for the team.

But, the underlying feeling is that his reign as general manager was oppressive – and it was felt that way from the locker room, to the coaches’ offices, to the management team, to the executive offices of the Wells Fargo Center, to the alumni, to the employees of the organization.

You name it, Hextall tried to control it. And eventually, that’s going to bring bad feelings.

Hextall wanted everyone to step in line, and if they didn’t, he was a bit surly with them. Rehabbing players were not allowed to talk to the media. Nor were assistant coaches.

Want to know what Ian Laperriere thinks about his terrible penalty kill or Kris Knoblauch thinks about his struggling power play? Sorry. You can’t ask.

All of this control would have been fine if there was a modicum of success on the ice or at the turnstiles.​"

https://www.crossingbroad...terday-and-not-later.html

- flyer_nutter



Well they all looked far more relaxed out there tonight. The mean mean man is gone
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:18 AM ET
Well they all looked far more relaxed out there tonight. The mean mean man is gone
- Just5


They broke at the first sign of trouble.

This at present time, is kind of a poopty boat with no captain heading into a storm.

I expect that to be fixed in next bit.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:21 AM ET
They broke at the first sign of trouble.

This at present time, is kind of a poopty boat with no captain heading into a storm.

I expect that to be fixed in next bit.

- flyer_nutter


Not going to blame a guy if he doesn’t feel like having to answer to Dave the hammer Schultz and co.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 2:07 AM ET
Interesting times are ahead

Zito is an intriguing candidate, a bit disappointed he’s not on the lists that have been floated but apparently he recently inked a deal to stay on in Columbus.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 28 @ 4:24 AM ET
Just blow it the (frank) up, I’ve had it. New GM-check

New coaching staff-coming soon

Trade Simmonds and Voracek, and since they’re going nowhere this year, might as well shop Gudas, Weal and Raffl too. Let Lehtera and Folin walk after the season. I’d trade AMac too, even if you retain half, assuming you can find someone to take him and Weise can spend his last year in LHV for all I care.

This team needs a (frank)ing heart transplant. I, like much of the fanbase, have been a loyal fan forever. We deserve better than this sh!t show!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 28 @ 4:27 AM ET
if i'm in that room, i'm probably flipping a table.
- hammarby31

This, there’d be equipment flying around the room if I was on this team.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 28 @ 5:24 AM ET
Per twitter:

“TK nearly in tears sitting on the bench in front of his stall after this loss”.

Carry on my wayward son.

- flyer_nutter

The video of TK's media scrum is on the team site. He was hard to watch.

Jake's just pissed me off
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