Jake's interview shows exactly what is wrong with this team. He alluded to people have to earn their way on the team and that people are scared and that people are making bad passes or such. He is totally oblivious that he himself has been a turnover machine. In other words, it's everyone else's fault. This culture of everyone thinks that they are working hard and that all the others are causing issues is bogus.

Exactly.

He wasn't flexible. "Unyielding" .

He could be that way another 10 years if he was winning. You can't be that way if your inconsistent and show no flexibility.
- J35Bacher

Hextalls plan was always about time. It was taking too long for them.

I'm not interested in fool's gold.

Personally, I think the unyeilding angle is a bunch of crap . That's just the spin nonsense they came up with.
- MJL

Yeah, that was some soap opera poop that filled the info vaccuum in the time between the firing and the presser.

Scott laid it out clear as day. They wanted Hexy to push his chips in now on this squad, and Hexy didn't think the time was right.

End of story.

Hextalls plan was always about time. It was taking too long for them.

I'm not interested in fool's gold.
- MJL

Again i am not saying it wasn't about time. And I am sure he would have been allowed that time if he was a little more flexible or they were winning.

You can't have a "my way is only way" type attitude if your not producing results on the team.

Also we aren't there and if there were things that came up that people thought could help the team and still stay within Hextalls plan that he totally ignored then I see why they might have finally stepped in

Yeah, that was some soap opera poop that filled the info vaccuum in the time between the firing and the presser.

Scott laid it out clear as day. They wanted Hexy to push his chips in now on this squad, and Hexy didn't think the time was right.

End of story.
- Tomahawk

Hextall was right in my opinion.

So let's summarize last nights debacle.

Blow a 2 goal third period lead with 8 minutes left in the game, and not even come away with a loser point.

This against a team going into the game who was 16th in the conference, playing on the second night of a back to back with their backup goaltender.

Flyers now sit 16th in the conference. Absolutely disgusting how bad this team is.
- PLindbergh31

You gotta be patient remember?

Again i am not saying it wasn't about time. And I am sure he would have been allowed that time if he was a little more flexible or they were winning.

You can't have a "my way is only way" type attitude if your not producing results on the team.

Also we aren't there and if there were things that came up that people thought could help the team and still stay within Hextalls plan that he totally ignored then I see why they might have finally stepped in
- J35Bacher

You're making my point for me. They didnt care about that stuff before now and if they were winning they wouldn't care about it.

You can't have a "my way is only way" type attitude if your not producing results on the team.
- J35Bacher

Brian Burke, the consummate sanctimonious assbagel, worked for a lot of NHL teams and suffered through a lot of losing seasons.

This was the guy who set his own personal TDL, would leave the team during important trade/UFA dates to make personal visits to troops, challenged other GMs to physical fights, and red-faced ranted into every mic or camera he ever came across.

Not a single thing that's come out about Hexy even approaches that level of "my way or the highway" or eccentric.

You're making my point for me. They didnt care about that stuff before now and if they were winning they wouldn't care about it.
- MJL

You seem to be glossing over that results are still needed. Right now this team, who should be in better position based of this roster, is in last place. How do you preach patience without giving your bosses the reasons they need to keep following your path.

You can't keep expecting your bosses to follow suit when they feel your neglecting the current product. And I don't even think this would have happened if this team was 3rd in the metro. this team is in last place and getting blown out.

I know it was rhetorical. But it seems to me it was because of a LOT of Off ice stuff. The way he ran the personnel. And his unwillingness to do ANYTHING to improve the team due to playing it too safe and holding on to too many cards.

People up the chain wanted some tweaks, some deals made to shake it up, and Hexy seemed unwilling to do so and he lost the power struggle to people who were infinitely more powerful than he.

Almost as concerning to me are these multiple reports of how he ran the day to day. The work environment, the unwillingness to listen to others or entertain other points of view that differed from his own.
- MBFlyerfan

Yup, this for sure. As others pointed out, you can be a tool and a tyrant if you're running a winning team. However, when you are quickly sinking to last in your conference, being an unyielding jacka$$ will pretty much always get you fired.

You seem to be glossing over that results are still needed. Right now this team, who should be in better position based of this roster, is in last place. How do you preach patience without giving your bosses the reasons they need to keep following your path.

You can't keep expecting your bosses to follow suit when they feel your neglecting the current product. And I don't even think this would have happened if this team was 3rd in the metro. this team is in last place and getting blown out.
- J35Bacher

This, 100% this!

Brian Burke, the consummate sanctimonious assbagel, worked for a lot of NHL teams and suffered through a lot of losing seasons.

This was the guy who set his own personal TDL, would leave the team during important trade/UFA dates to make personal visits to troops, challenged other GMs to physical fights, and red-faced ranted into every mic or camera he ever came across.

Not a single thing that's come out about Hexy even approaches that level of "my way or the highway" or eccentric.
- Tomahawk

OK?

Not sure what your trying to get out.

You seem to be glossing over that results are still needed. Right now this team, who should be in better position based of this roster, is in last place. How do you preach patience without giving your bosses the reasons they need to keep following your path.

You can't keep expecting your bosses to follow suit when they feel your neglecting the current product. And I don't even think this would have happened if this team was 3rd in the metro. this team is in last place and getting blown out.
- J35Bacher

How in the world can you say that I'm glossing over that results are needed when I'm saying that results are the real reason that he was fired? LOL

I doubt Hextall was any different from day 1. This is about business and a lack of patience.
- MJL

And there you have it.

Again i am not saying it wasn't about time. And I am sure he would have been allowed that time if he was a little more flexible or they were winning.

You can't have a "my way is only way" type attitude if your not producing results on the team.

Also we aren't there and if there were things that came up that people thought could help the team and still stay within Hextalls plan that he totally ignored then I see why they might have finally stepped in
- J35Bacher

Well now the new GM will trade all of the prospects. All of them. Every single one.

And there you have it.
- MBFlyerfan

Hextall was right to not change his plan. I wouldn't have either.

I can't stand Weise, and the contract given to him was nothing short of negligence, but he's actually been one of their best players for the last few weeks. He's played well. Of course saying he's been one of their best players is like being the tallest midget.
- PLindbergh31

Certainly you can argue that he has been one of the better forwards for a while, but Laughton has been that way the entire season AND he already had two assists on the night. I just can't believe he wasn't on the ice more.

Simmonds seems to have gone into protection mode to guarantee his next contract...he is almost invisible...No Snarl, nothing...he is an easy trade in my mind...I know he can and most like will play better once there is a new contract from whomever it comes from, but since Hexy made the decision it was going to be a game of chicken, it most likely won't be us...

Yup, this for sure. As others pointed out, you can be a tool and a tyrant if you're running a winning team. However, when you are quickly sinking to last in your conference, being an unyielding jacka$$ will pretty much always get you fired.
- BiggE

Yup... now is it too much to ask they bring in Lombardi and Quenneville? It’s hockey not rocket science. No more ex muckers and grinders converted to coaches/gm’s with nothing else on the resume. Let’s get a real bonafide executive to do the executive work and a bonafide proven NHL caliber coach. The Hakstol hiring was out of left field. The Hextall hiring was a Kool-Aid move, hoping they could bottle some of that magic from LA... now they have the chance to actually get a helluva lot closer to the real thing... will they flyer it up? I hope not.

How in the world can you say that I'm glossing over that results are needed when I'm saying that results are the real reason that he was fired? LOL
- MJL

Your Quote above:

"Hextalls plan was always about time. It was taking too long for them.

I'm not interested in fool's gold."

I take that as saying results now are just fools gold because the real payout is down the road?

And if that is what your saying I agree. But you can't keep selling that if your team currently isn't showing growth but actually look to be regressing. And you don't show ANY flexibility in your plan. Not deviating from it. Just flexibility in it.

Well now the new GM will trade all of the prospects. All of them. Every single one.
- jmatchett383

Because there's no in between?

We can't still compete while also drafting and developing?

Your Quote above:

"Hextalls plan was always about time. It was taking too long for them.

I'm not interested in fool's gold."

I take that as saying results now are just fools gold because the real payout is down the road?

And if that is what your saying I agree. But you can't keep selling that if your team currently isn't showing growth but actually look to be regressing. And you don't show ANY flexibility in your plan. Not deviating from it. Just flexibility in it.
- J35Bacher

Wait, are you saying that you can actually make trades to help the team now that don't cripple you in the future?

Because there's no in between?

We can't still compete while also drafting and developing?
- J35Bacher

Apparently not.

Yup... now is it too much to ask they bring in Lombardi and Quenneville? It’s hockey not rocket science. No more ex muckers and grinders converted to coaches/gm’s with nothing else on the resume. Let’s get a real bonafide executive to do the executive work and a bonafide proven NHL caliber coach. The Hakstol hiring was out of left field. The Hextall hiring was a Kool-Aid move, hoping they could bottle some of that magic from LA... now they have the chance to actually get a helluva lot closer to the real thing... will they flyer it up? I hope not.
- JoeRussomanno

Joe, Lombardi is out of the running by his choice. He does not want to be the GM

If they add the right GM/coach they can turn things around. The problem is the guy doing the hiring. I have no faith in him hiring the right people.
- PLindbergh31

Seriously wtf is homer still doing here?