Dustin Brown was the locker room leader for the Kings and their captain. Do you think he was better than Kopitar or Quick? I bet if they waited another year there'd be a huge debate about Pettersson vs Horvat for captain.

It's coming across, I suppose, like I don't care for Horvat, which is totally untrue, love what he brings, he's the second best player on the team and they're good because of both of them, I just believe Pettersson is the MVP at this point, not Horvat.
- LeftCoaster

I'm not suggesting that they're equal in talent, but their impact is similar mainly because without both of them there's only one scoring line on this team. EP alone can't carry a team out of the basement if his other 3 lines are bottom 6 caliber. This isn't the NFL or NBA where one single player has that massive of an impact on his whole roster.

You can argue that they'd finish 3rd last without EP and 5th last without Horvat, but the point remains the same.

The team had a good month so far even with two games left. 7-4-1 . I remember looking at the month at the beginning and thought they would be lucky to win two games in December.

MVP in December .940 SV%
- VANTEL

Another hat in the MVP ring!

I'm not suggesting that they're equal in talent, but their impact is similar mainly because without both of them there's only one scoring line on this team. EP alone can't carry a team out of the basement if his other 3 lines are bottom 6 caliber. This isn't the NFL or NBA where one single player has that massive of an impact on his whole roster.

You can argue that they'd finish 3rd last without EP and 5th last without Horvat, but the point remains the same.
- Nucker101

Of course, you need the sum of all the parts to be the best team you can be, that said, at this point in their existence to me Pettersson's contributions outweigh Horvat's. But they're a much better team because they have both of them. Any knucklehead who's watched five minutes of hockey knows that.

Of course, you need the sum of all the parts to be the best team you can be, that said, at this point in their existence to me Pettersson's contributions outweigh Horvat's. But they're a much better team because they have both of them. Any knucklehead who's watched five minutes of hockey knows that.
- LeftCoaster

so basically you're pulling a N4U here and arguing semantics because you just agreed with my post above.

I know he's not a flashy new toy, but i do think that a big part of the Canucks success this year is due to Markstrom and his improved play.

Credit where credit is due.

edit: NVM. I see there is some credit floating around now
- dbot

December was a good month for him but overall his save percentage is lower this year than last.

Of course, you need the sum of all the parts to be the best team you can be, that said, at this point in their existence to me Pettersson's contributions outweigh Horvat's. But they're a much better team because they have both of them. Any knucklehead who's watched five minutes of hockey knows that.
- LeftCoaster

It's an interesting debate, and i guess depends on one's definition of MVP.
As awesome as EP is to watch, I disagree that he is more valuable than Bo, given the amount of face offs and level of competition that Bo faces as well as being a leader on the team and scoring at a similar clip.

Another hat in the MVP ring!
- dbot

I think he had 7 wins in his last 8 games with a SV %of 940 and as Carol mentioned a few blogs ago Canucks gave up the least amount of goals in December.

I have to as well. He has been unreal and I never thought he could be "the" guy. I was his biggest critic and now I hope he can keep it up. I am seriously rooting for him to continue his success. Happy to be wrong about him.
- thundachunk

I was reading through about which players carry the team and was worried no one would mention him. He's got to be in the conversation of best player across the last 10 games

December was a good month for him but overall his save percentage is lower this year than last.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah but last year the Sedins didn't back check.

so basically you're pulling a N4U here and arguing semantics because you just agreed with my post above.
- Nucker101

Originally I said Pettersson is the team's MVP, without him they're at the bottom; you said Horvat's contributions are equally as important, I disagree.

This was never about the team is better because of both of them, like I said, any idiot will tell you that.

so basically you're pulling a N4U here and arguing semantics because you just agreed with my post above.
- Nucker101

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Yeah but last year the Sedins didn't back check.
- VANTEL

Using Booners narrative, nice deflection

Originally I said Pettersson is the team's MVP, without him they're at the bottom; you said Horvat's contributions are equally as important, I disagree.

This was never about the team is better because of both of them, like I said, any idiot will tell you that.
- LeftCoaster

I said their impact is basically the same because the team is a true bottom feeder if either of them are off this roster.

Using Booners narrative, nice deflection
- LeftCoaster

It doesn't make sense either but I left it in there

I don't agree with your assessment that Horvat is more important to the team than my assessment that Pettersson is....where's the deflection LOL!
- LeftCoaster

They are both important to the team for some of the same reasons and for different reasons. You need to go to Dragon's School of Elite Assessment.

I said their impact is basically the same because the team is a true bottom feeder if either of them are off this roster.
- Nucker101

So what I'm saying is, without Horvat the team would still suck but not as bad as it would without Pettersson

I'm not suggesting that they're equal in talent, but their impact is similar mainly because without both of them there's only one scoring line on this team. EP alone can't carry a team out of the basement if his other 3 lines are bottom 6 caliber. This isn't the NFL or NBA where one single player has that massive of an impact on his whole roster.

You can argue that they'd finish 3rd last without EP and 5th last without Horvat, but the point remains the same.
- Nucker101

So what I'm saying is, without Horvat the team would still suck but not as bad as it would without Pettersson
- LeftCoaster

so for example...5th worst instead of 3rd worst but basically in the same tier of garbage teams

semantics...

Agreed but with with a lot of help from Boeser and Pettersson and with Sutter/Beagle.
It's not just one guy.
- Marwood

so basically you're pulling a N4U here and arguing semantics because you just agreed with my post above.
- Nucker101

I don't agree with your assessment that Horvat is more important to the team than my assessment that Pettersson is....where's the deflection LOL!
- LeftCoaster

The deflection was when you dodged answering a couple of people and proceeded to answer a question that wasnt asked. You eventually explained... but not without insult.

Don't get so butthurt.

Agreed but with with a lot of help from Boeser and Pettersson and with Sutter/Beagle.
It's not just one guy.
- Marwood

wow thx for the help champ!!

so basically you're pulling a N4U here and arguing semantics because you just agreed with my post above.
- Nucker101

wow thx for the help champ!!


- LordHumungous

STFU champ.