Oh, man ... guys -

1. Petan is never going to be a starting centreman or winger on the Jets, save for some filling in on injury time
2. Trouba, one way or another, is gone this summer if not sooner
3. Frolik is never coming back
4. The 'Laine needs a better centreman' conundrum with current roster may only be solved with Scheifs ... maybe - just maybe - Roslo in another year or two
5. Dano is a career AHLer until he goes back and plays in Germany or maybe the K
6. Sometime between All-Star break and Trade Deadline - Chevy will make some moves and I'm betting a centre and a LHD

I have 100 real deep stats/insights to prove all this but refuse to share ....

Or maybe I don't

Oh, man ... guys -

1. Petan is never going to be a starting centreman or winger on the Jets, save for some filling in on injury time
2. Trouba, one way or another, is gone this summer if not sooner
3. Frolik is never coming back
4. The 'Laine needs a better centreman' conundrum with current roster may only be solved with Scheifs ... maybe - just maybe - Roslo in another year or two
5. Dano is a career AHLer until he goes back and plays in Germany or maybe the K
6. Sometime between All-Star break and Trade Deadline - Chevy will make some moves and I'm betting a centre and a LHD

I have 100 real deep stats/insights to prove all this but refuse to share ....

Or maybe I don't
- CorydonKeith

I agree 100% on all counts.

Oh, man ... guys -

1. Petan is never going to be a starting centreman or winger on the Jets, save for some filling in on injury time
2. Trouba, one way or another, is gone this summer if not sooner
3. Frolik is never coming back
4. The 'Laine needs a better centreman' conundrum with current roster may only be solved with Scheifs ... maybe - just maybe - Roslo in another year or two
5. Dano is a career AHLer until he goes back and plays in Germany or maybe the K
6. Sometime between All-Star break and Trade Deadline - Chevy will make some moves and I'm betting a centre and a LHD

I have 100 real deep stats/insights to prove all this but refuse to share ....

Or maybe I don't
- CorydonKeith

I agree. Trouba has been a major headache when negotiating what he believes he is worth. Interesting to see if meyers is a jet next year. If both leave, we are left with just Buff and Niku on the right. I am hopeful Niku will be up for the task, but its a risk losing both Meyers and Trouba at the same time. I know its crazy, but if I had it my way, I would trade Trouba for Suter. He is a dominant LD, good for 40+ points a year on one of the lowest scoring teams in the league. It is a little scary that at 33, he has another 6 seasons after this at 7.54M, but he certainly has been the Wilds best player for a few years and has not shown any signs of slowing down.

[quote=Ross77]

I like it, and I’ll allow it.

But you are asking A LOT out of both Copp and Petan on the defensive side. They’re carrying two guys a piece.

I agree. Trouba has been a major headache when negotiating what he believes he is worth. Interesting to see if meyers is a jet next year. If both leave, we are left with just Buff and Niku on the right. I am hopeful Niku will be up for the task, but its a risk losing both Meyers and Trouba at the same time. I know its crazy, but if I had it my way, I would trade Trouba for Suter. He is a dominant LD, good for 40+ points a year on one of the lowest scoring teams in the league. It is a little scary that at 33, he has another 6 seasons after this at 7.54M, but he certainly has been the Wilds best player for a few years and has not shown any signs of slowing down.
- bikeguy99

Trouba is the better player. Go for Spurgeon or nobody.

Oh, man ... guys -

1. Petan is never going to be a starting centreman or winger on the Jets, save for some filling in on injury time
2. Trouba, one way or another, is gone this summer if not sooner
3. Frolik is never coming back
4. The 'Laine needs a better centreman' conundrum with current roster may only be solved with Scheifs ... maybe - just maybe - Roslo in another year or two
5. Dano is a career AHLer until he goes back and plays in Germany or maybe the K
6. Sometime between All-Star break and Trade Deadline - Chevy will make some moves and I'm betting a centre and a LHD

I have 100 real deep stats/insights to prove all this but refuse to share ....

Or maybe I don't
- CorydonKeith

1: Cool. Trade him then.
2: He won’t be gone before the summer. We’re in our window. We sell low during the season, our window is closed.
3: This was never an option. Weird people were talking about it.
4: Its not a conundrum for anyone but Paul Maurice. Wheeler and Scheifele can both carry lines? Laine has no center? Put the first two together, and give Laine Bryan Little
5: *am triggered*
6: He better. We’ve got holes on holes right now.

Thought I would say it again but Scheifele is number 2 in the NHL for minutes played by a forward. Currently the top 5 is:

1. McDavid
2. Scheifele
3. Barkov
4. Kopitar
5. P. Kane

interestingly the other 4 forwards are playing for non-playoff teams. I keep hearing the Jets have depth, where is it? Jets are super weak down the middle and the above list proves just how weak we are. Scheifele is going to be burned out come playoff time!

Ideal no-Buff no-Nik lineup:
Perreault-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Little-Wheeler
Petan-Roslovic-Appleton
Copp-Lowry-Tanev

Morrissey-Niku
Chiarot-Trouba
Kulikov-Myers
- Rexypoo

Swap Petan and Roslovic......

[quote=Ross77]

Niku is not a top pairing defender at this time in his career.

[quote=2.0]

The idea there is to roll 3 pairings.
Only Morrissey and Trouba can handle top pairing minutes. Kulikov and Myers struggle as a 2nd pairing, and Chiarot and Morrow are 7s at best. Niku is the only person not wearing 33, 44, or 8 whom has a conceivable chance at being a top 4 dman right now.

First period over and I'm sticking to my guns on dropping Laine down to the fourth line. Maurice had the perfect opportunity to do so after the dumb Laine penalty that cost the Jets as goal. Meanwhile, the third and fourth lines are playing great. As I've said before , Perreault is undeniably a perfect fit in a third and fourth line role and considering his pay at least on the third line he gets more icetime. Nice goal after a perfect set up by Tanev !

Certainly, I prefer him to hands-of-stone Copp, so Perreault on the third line is perfect. Copp on fourth line allows Maurice to have faith in the fourth line defensive responsibilities and be able to roll the four lines a bit more. Brendan Lemieux is playing absolutely great . His speed to getting in and on the puck is really noticeable. Move him up to second line , send Laine down to fourth......please !

I didn't see the three stars but I'll assume that one of the dynamic duo (which should never be broken up as some has suggested) of Wheeler and/or Sheif was first star. Myers probably deserved it. I did predict if you give him more ice time he will really outperform, and he has. Other than those in my previous post , Little also had a very good game and I'm not suprised at all that Roslovic is thriving on that second line.

Now the bad news. Patrik Laine's worst game of the year. Two penalties, one which caused a goal, lots of lost pucks, stupid plays, etc etc. He looks just lost out there. This is all despite the excellent play tonight of Little and Roslovic. It's Laine that is dragging that line down, no doubt about it.

BTW....unless Colorado shores up its terrible defense at the deadline it will go nowhere in the playoffs.

Also, I think I'm going to lose it if these Safeway ads continue all the way to the end of the season. My lord , give it a break. Get some new sponsors.

Rexy - quickly: yes, Trouba gone before summer / 'in the window' would not be a wise move ... to say the least

A trade in the summer - after the season - is best option ... Troubs probably would agree since he has to keep his stock high and Jets should ("should") be poised for another deep run

Was at last night's game ... reminded me of a conversation I had with another Jets uber-fan over the holidays - - this guy offered that Jets need to score 5 a night in order to win ... period

Of course - most teams would win scoring 5 a night ... believe his point was our team defence & goaltending is lacking - thus - need 5 to win ... anyway

My read on the game is the old "we gotta play 60" ... we let up on a 4-1 lead and - boom - in a minute + 1/2 it's a 1 goal game ... I'm not sure in my mind what's lacking - technically or system - but our team just 'let's up' from time to time and good teams will jump on that in a hurry

Helle was flapping around like a drying sheet in the wind ... Laine was lost again and coughed the puck up more times than I want to remember - he was also not moving his feet ... Wheels posts 4 pts, Scheifs posts 3 (and scored a very Crosby-esque goal), etc etc

To quote a buddy of mine: "Jets are 1st in Central, 4th in West (with a ton of games in hand) and we are playing the sh_ts"

That's what's throwing me and others - - - Jets aren't playing to their potential and yet we remain high in the standings ... that could be really good news

Trouba is the better player. Go for Spurgeon or nobody.
- Rexypoo

Trouba's numbers would beg to differ in a huge way. He still has only amassed 33 points in a season, and if he does not miss a single game this season, should be on pace for 36. Nothing to write home about. That being said, Spurgeon or Dumba would be great pickups. I have no doubt the greatest contribution Trouba will have with the jets is his trade return, not his mediocre point contributions.