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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:36 PM ET
No, the gist was that everyone wanted to see Gretzky magic - you just also wanted to see your team win.
- Atomic Wedgie

I've gone to every game McDavid has played in Boston and this checks out. Although after he had two points in like the first 5 minutes I had had enough
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:36 PM ET
It's positive ramifications would stretch well beyond the Leafs and reverberate across HB.

I second this.

- RickJames77



100% agreed.. Then we can focus on what's really important... Krug's height.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:37 PM ET
Was just looking at the UFA D men for next year. Brad Hunt impresses me. Add to Reilly, Dermott, Zaitsev and perhaps Rosen. Still leaves us one short. Sandin perhaps or Holl. Hopefully this is the last of Marincin too. Never going to play on this team for sure so why not take a chance on someone who might. Most likely Vegas resigns Hunt though. Oh well, a little wishful thinking.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:38 PM ET
Was just looking at the UFA D men for next year. Brad Hunt impresses me. Add to Reilly, Dermott, Zaitsev and perhaps Rosen. Still leaves us one short. Sandin perhaps or Holl. Hopefully this is the last of Marincin too. Never going to play on this team for sure so why not take a chance on someone who might. Most likely Vegas resigns Hunt though. Oh well, a little wishful thinking.
- Leafsmart


Out of all the defenseman in the league, you like Brad Hunt?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 15 @ 3:38 PM ET
I fail to see how this deal helps us? Hainsey is still on the top pairing and Martinez is basically a Spanish Zaitsev..
But wait, there's more.. Both Muzzin and Martinez are in their 30's.. Gardiner and Zaitsev are not..

- PatC80[q


Same

also couldnt Gardiner, Zietsev, Lily and a 1st get you something like Hamilton/Peterangelo/Paryneko range

so just do that instead (fudge the players a bit and add a cap dump with the D coming) to even it out
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:38 PM ET
100% agreed.. Then we can focus on what's really important... Krug's height.
- PatC80

You just get me.

We can couple in Grzelyck's height as well.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Both Muzzin and Mart. shoot left, do they both play left side?

But I wouldnt do a 1st and one of our best D prospets. I dont see muzzin or martinez being what they were. So feels like a lateral move

- senstroll

you all are crazy.

Muzzin >>>>>> Gardiner, Zaitsev

The guy would easily be the 2nd best D-man on the team.

Their both cap friendly.

A leaf fan in Ottawa watches every game and says that Gardiner is good but messes up at horrible times; and tbh that's what I see. Mental lapses. Not hating on the guy but I'd take that deal in a heartbeat if I had the choice of which prospect I give up.

Martinez plays right side!
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Out of all the defenseman in the league, you like Brad Hunt?
- PatC80

If he changed his first name to Mike, I see real promise here.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:40 PM ET
You just get me.

We can couple in Grzelyck's height as well.

- RickJames77


They could hop on one anothers shoulders, toss on a trench coat and pretend to be Chara. (If the lower portion person was wearing lifts of course)
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:40 PM ET
Same

also couldnt Gardiner, Zietsev, Lily and a 1st get you something like Hamilton/Peterangelo/Paryneko range

so just do that instead (fudge the players a bit and add a cap dump with the D coming) to even it out

- senstroll


Pesce and Ferland for that Leafs package? (not your "package" RJ, I bit the first time, but you won't fool me again.) I might say yes.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:40 PM ET
Same

also couldnt Gardiner, Zietsev, Lily and a 1st get you something like Hamilton/Peterangelo/Paryneko range

so just do that instead (fudge the players a bit and add a cap dump with the D coming) to even it out

- senstroll

Pietrangelo is going to cost Sandin, 1st, and KK up front.

Muzzin is a huge upgrade on Zaitsev and big upgrade on Gardiner defensively
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:41 PM ET
I fail to see how this deal helps us? Hainsey is still on the top pairing and Martinez is basically a Spanish Zaitsev..
But wait, there's more.. Both Muzzin and Martinez are in their 30's.. Gardiner and Zaitsev are not..

- PatC80


*crack* Nobody expects the Spanish Defenseman!
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:41 PM ET
They could hop on one anothers shoulders, toss on a trench coat and pretend to be Chara. (If the lower portion person was wearing lifts of course)
- markmark
We would really need to find out which of the two is the power bottom then
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:42 PM ET
You just get me.

We can couple in Grzelyck's height as well.

- RickJames77



Put Grzelcyk on Krug's shoulders and you'll get someone the same height as Charlie McAvoy
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:43 PM ET
Out of all the defenseman in the league, you like Brad Hunt?
- PatC80

I do for the right price. Still need a top 4. Yes. And I would work on a deal to move Zaitsev as well. How am I doing so far?
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:44 PM ET
Pietrangelo is going to cost Sandin, 1st, and KK up front.

Muzzin is a huge upgrade on Zaitsev and big upgrade on Gardiner defensively

- AlfieisKing


If we dress Dubas up as Stan Bowman we could probably get OEL out of Arizona for a decent price.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 15 @ 3:44 PM ET
you all are crazy.

Muzzin >>>>>> Gardiner, Zaitsev

The guy would easily be the 2nd best D-man on the team.

Their both cap friendly.

A leaf fan in Ottawa watches every game and says that Gardiner is good but messes up at horrible times; and tbh that's what I see. Mental lapses. Not hating on the guy but I'd take that deal in a heartbeat if I had the choice of which prospect I give up.

Martinez plays right side!

- AlfieisKing


i am skeptical on how effective they both are in 2019

Muzzin elite D in 2013-14 ..still decent i assume but dont watch enough Kings games to know
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:44 PM ET
We would really need to find out which of the two is the power bottom then

- RickJames77


Well Pat just told us which is which in his fan-fic at least.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
I've gone to every game McDavid has played in Boston and this checks out. Although after he had two points in like the first 5 minutes I had had enough
- RickJames77

I remember going to watch Gretzky when he visited Maple Leaf Gardens.

You always watched him. It didn't matter if he didn't have the puck - you just focused in on him.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:46 PM ET
Pesce and Ferland for that Leafs package? (not your "package" RJ, I bit the first time, but you won't fool me again.) I might say yes.
- PatC80
It's pronounced pàckage. Easy mistake to make Pat

I think Ferland is a very underrated player so idk if this would get it done.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:46 PM ET
If he changed his first name to Mike, I see real promise here.
- RickJames77




Then during a stoppage in play, Babcock can say "Hey everybody, did you see how gud Mike Hunt is?"
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:49 PM ET
I do for the right price. Still need a top 4. Yes. And I would work on a deal to move Zaitsev as well. How am I doing so far?
- Leafsmart



The right price for Mike Brad Hunt should be Michael Hutchinson.

Trading Zaitsev for? You're getting better but you're no mike hunt
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:50 PM ET


Then during a stoppage in play, Babcock can say "Hey everybody, did you see how gud Mike Hunt is?"

- PatC80
"Use the wood like Mike Hunt...really get it in there and jam up those lanes!"
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
Well Pat just told us which is which in his fan-fic at least.
- markmark


Hey now. No I... wait.. Yes, I did.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
Pietrangelo is going to cost Sandin, 1st, and KK up front.

Muzzin is a huge upgrade on Zaitsev and big upgrade on Gardiner defensively

- AlfieisKing


i can assume Dougie Hamilton may cost a little less than AP?

Lets Say 1st, Lily and a Connor Brown and a prospect from the Marlies (not Sandin)

imo Hamilton is the perfect fit for the Leafs right now, age contract, RH shot ..elite d
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