Take a quick look at the 2017/18 roster vs. The 2018/19 roster. He improved the team at almost every position.

Dahlin
Skinner
Sheary
- Boss34

Dahlin was a no brainer draft pick,
why is Botts getting credit for that?

Skinner replaces Kane- improvement
But Mitts hasn’t even come close to replacing ROR, and Berglund didn’t even come close to being effective in a 2C role

Sheary was only good with Jack,
he’s been meh for the most part without

Bottom line,
We needed MORE (a lot more really) scoring from last year
And all we did was replace what we lost

Goaltending has been a little better overall,
but not enough to make much of a difference (obviously)

While the roster looks better...
no Nolan, Criscuolo, etc
There’s still a lot here that just hasn’t worked

Leafs have 3 straight, 8 minutes left in the 3rd 5-3 Hawks, the Leafs have 18 3rd period shots
- mattmoulson

Game got pretty entertaining
But still...
F the Leafs!

If we win the lotto...
“ToldYouSoFitz” would be pretty funny
- jdfitz77

LOL! not

Dahlin was a no brainer draft pick,
why is Botts getting credit for that?

Skinner replaces Kane- improvement
But Mitts hasn’t even come close to replacing ROR, and Berglund didn’t even come close to being effective in a 2C role

Sheary was only good with Jack,
he’s been meh for the most part without

Bottom line,
We needed MORE (a lot more really) scoring from last year
And all we did was replace what we lost

Goaltending has been a little better overall,
but not enough to make much of a difference (obviously)

While the roster looks better...
no Nolan, Criscuolo, etc
There’s still a lot here that just hasn’t worked
- jdfitz77

I give Botts credit for Dahlin because he didn’t come into a new team and make any alarming trades. We could have traded that first rounder to “win now” so to speak. Instead he lets the cards fall where they may, and also doesn’t have anyone go into the room where the lottery takes place and perhaps that changed our luck.

Game got pretty entertaining
But still...
F the Leafs!
- jdfitz77

They should have tied it, 30 3rd period shots is unbelievable

FYI, all but 2 games on every team’s schedule is pre determined from now to eternity or until the league changes the schedule policy. Isn’t Lindsay injured? Sounds like there are holes in your Broncos fandom boat to me. Better start bailing. Become a Bills fan now and avoid the rush.
- Hatboro_Swords

Lindsay will be just fine. Bills will be better as well but I’ll believe it when I see it. The Bills wouldn’t be the first team that supposedly “won free agency” to fall flat on their face. Remember the dream team Eagles ?

Game got pretty entertaining
But still...
F the Leafs!
- jdfitz77

Definitely. Two times.
Now which team should win in OT? Nucks or Rags?

They should have tied it, 30 3rd period shots is unbelievable
- mattmoulson

All over them at the end too
Hawks goalie making saves without the goalstick
Good stuff

Lindsay will be just fine. Bills will be better as well but I’ll believe it when I see it. The Bills wouldn’t be the first team that supposedly “won free agency” to fall flat on their face. Remember the dream team Eagles ?
- Pegullaville

Of course I do. Who is saying the Bills won free agency?

Definitely. Two times.
Now which team should win in OT? Nucks or Rags?
- PrinceChill

Nucks. Sabres got the Rags right where they want them.

FYI, all but 2 games on every team’s schedule is pre determined from now to eternity or until the league changes the schedule policy. Isn’t Lindsay injured? Sounds like there are holes in your Broncos fandom boat to me. Better start bailing. Become a Bills fan now and avoid the rush.
- Hatboro_Swords

There won’t be any rush to the Bills bandwagon. We have to be one of the most insignificant teams in the league. Unless we’re talking tailgate.

I give Botts credit for Dahlin because he didn’t come into a new team and make any alarming trades. We could have traded that first rounder to “win now” so to speak. Instead he lets the cards fall where they may, and also doesn’t have anyone go into the room where the lottery takes place and perhaps that changed our luck.
- Pegullaville

Still was luck to win that pick
Just as easily could’ve finished 2nd last & not won the lotto

Also... if Phil is the MAJOR problem...
isn’t that on Botts as well?

Botts has made some nice moves
But he’s also made some obvious blunders

Expecting Berglund- a 3rd line LW-
a guy StL moved to wing bc they didn’t like him at Center...
to come in here and hold down the fort at 2C was an epic failure
And a really, really stupid idea

His moves set us up to have a lack of secondary scoring this year

There’s no denying that


Will it end up working out?
We’ll see
But Botts’ plan for this season has been nothing short of a huge disappointment

Still was luck to win that pick
Just as easily could’ve finished 2nd last & not won the lotto

Also... if Phil is the MAJOR problem...
isn’t that on Botts as well?

Botts has made some nice moves
But he’s also made some obvious blunders

Expecting Berglund- a 3rd line LW-
a guy StL moved to wing bc they didn’t like him at Center...
to come in here and hold down the fort at 2C was an epic failure
And a really, really stupid idea

His moves set us up to have a lack of secondary scoring this year

There’s no denying that


Will it end up working out?
We’ll see
But Botts’ plan for this season has been nothing short of a huge disappointment
- jdfitz77

Regressing as the year goes on is the most disappointing. You or anyone else trying to play it safe can say you didn’t expect them to make the playoffs at the beginning of the year, but that isn’t really saying much because I imagine you would’ve figured to see noticeable improvement as the season went on.

Still was luck to win that pick
Just as easily could’ve finished 2nd last & not won the lotto

Also... if Phil is the MAJOR problem...
isn’t that on Botts as well?

Botts has made some nice moves
But he’s also made some obvious blunders

Expecting Berglund- a 3rd line LW-
a guy StL moved to wing bc they didn’t like him at Center...
to come in here and hold down the fort at 2C was an epic failure
And a really, really stupid idea

His moves set us up to have a lack of secondary scoring this year

There’s no denying that


Will it end up working out?
We’ll see
But Botts’ plan for this season has been nothing short of a huge disappointment
- jdfitz77

That offer could have also been the best offer Botts had on the table. Jeremy White’s super secret sabres source said we were apparently shopping ROR even at the deadline that year.

Homie mentioned the split in the locker room and I heard that as well from a few other people. ROR had one foot out the door whether we liked it or not. Skinner only brought back a 2nd rounder at the end of the day.

FMcD


- Der Kaiser

That is very bad, but the Oilers won the Sabres game, well they won both, but more the Stars lost because Stefan blew a tire.

Thanks for posting this

I was busy all day

Another good signing
- homiedclown

yes its a great signing, Beane doing better than I thought he would. Best part is no Contacts are long term and they can get out if needed...

Regressing as the year goes on is the most disappointing. You or anyone else trying to play it safe can say you didn’t expect them to make the playoffs at the beginning of the year, but that isn’t really saying much because I imagine you would’ve figured to see noticeable improvement as the season went on.
- Hatboro_Swords

That’s fair
And like I’ve said, Phil is PART of the blame
Just not ALL of it

I think ppl are just going too far with the hate on him

Here’s what I believe he was thinking:
“WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!”
- PrinceChill

We got David f@cking Putney

That’s fair
And like I’ve said, Phil is PART of the blame
Just not ALL of it

I think ppl are just going too far with the hate on him
- jdfitz77

I agree. I just can’t stand 78 points a year after over achieving and losing Eichel to start got the last GM/coach fired, but these guys get a free pass. It’s maddening to me.

That offer could have also been the best offer Botts had on the table. Jeremy White’s super secret sabres source said we were apparently shopping ROR even at the deadline that year.

Homie mentioned the split in the locker room and I heard that as well from a few other people. ROR had one foot out the door whether we liked it or not. Skinner only brought back a 2nd rounder at the end of the day.
- Pegullaville

Botts couldn’t have done anything else to bring in more scoring or get a different option for 2C?

Skinner- great
Sheary- meh
Berglund- horrible
Tage- disappointing
Sobatka- pretty bad

1 for 5 by my count
1 for 6 if u include counting on Mitts for offensive help

This isn’t about ROR or Kane
It about how all he ended up doing was REPLACING their scoring and the moves he made to actually IMPROVE SCORING...
they FAILED
They failed big time

Botts couldn’t have done anything else to bring in more scoring or get a different option for 2C?

Skinner- great
Sheary- meh
Berglund- horrible
Tage- disappointing
Sobatka- pretty bad

1 for 5 by my count
1 for 6 if u include counting on Mitts for offensive help

This isn’t about ROR or Kane
It about how all he ended up doing was REPLACING their scoring and the moves he made to actually IMPROVE SCORING...
they FAILED
They failed big time
- jdfitz77

To replace them though he would have to have moved out a ton of assets to acquire them. Botts wanted to acquire as many assets as possible as Murray went out spending them like it was candy without getting us anywhere.

I agree. I just can’t stand 78 points a year after over achieving and losing Eichel to start got the last GM/coach fired, but these guys get a free pass. It’s maddening to me.
- Hatboro_Swords

What do u mean by “free pass” here?

I get that u love GMTM for some reason,
but just about EVERY move he made ended up not working out
It’s nuts how u continue to deny that

Botts is still cleaning up that mess to a degree

Also...
GMTM was here for 3 years before getting fired
Botts hasn’t even finished year2 yet

Your bias for GMTM is really showing again

Botts couldn’t have done anything else to bring in more scoring or get a different option for 2C?

Skinner- great
Sheary- meh
Berglund- horrible
Tage- disappointing
Sobatka- pretty bad

1 for 5 by my count
1 for 6 if u include counting on Mitts for offensive help

This isn’t about ROR or Kane
It about how all he ended up doing was REPLACING their scoring and the moves he made to actually IMPROVE SCORING...
they FAILED
They failed big time
- jdfitz77

This is a great point. It’s like the plan failed and he couldn’t figure out what to do about it. They should’ve brought in Duchene or someone to play 2C when Berglund left. It felt like they were a lock for the playoffs.

To replace them though he would have to have moved out a ton of assets to acquire them. Botts wanted to acquire as many assets as possible as Murray went out spending them like it was candy without getting us anywhere.
- Pegullaville

Regardless...

Homie has said the plan this year was to compete for the playoffs,
Not “stealth tank”

I believe that

In that regard, it’s been a total failure
And a big part of it has been the guys that Botts put here for Phil

Botts absolutely has to own some of the blame here