What do u mean by “free pass” here?

I get that u love GMTM for some reason,
but just about EVERY move he made ended up not working out
It’s nuts how u continue to deny that

Botts is still cleaning up that mess to a degree

Also...
GMTM was here for 3 years before getting fired
Botts hasn’t even finished year2 yet

Your bias for GMTM is really showing again
- jdfitz77

Botts walked into a gold mine. Having a miserable season with no consequences then getting Dahlin was icing on the cake. He should be fired.

This is a great point. It’s like the plan failed and he couldn’t figure out what to do about it. They should’ve brought in Duchene or someone to play 2C when Berglund left. It felt like they were a lock for the playoffs.
- Hatboro_Swords

I blame him more for thinking that Berglund could play 2C effectively to begin with

Trades during the season, esp early, are usually hard to make

Also,
I definitely would not have traded the assets it would’ve taken to get a rental like Duchene- even if it was early on

Botts walked into a gold mine. Having a miserable season with no consequences then getting Dahlin was icing on the cake. He should be fired.
- Hatboro_Swords

How can u possibly say this roster was a gold mine?

That’s utterly ridiculous

Go ahead & look at the roster the last year of Murray

Good grief

Botts walked into a gold mine. Having a miserable season with no consequences then getting Dahlin was icing on the cake. He should be fired.
- Hatboro_Swords

If Murray should’ve got season 4,
why shouldn’t Botts even get season 3?

Your bias for Murray is overwhelming
Seriously,
does he even have a job yet somewhere?

I agree. I just can’t stand 78 points a year after over achieving and losing Eichel to start got the last GM/coach fired, but these guys get a free pass. It’s maddening to me.
- Hatboro_Swords

Oh it’s a majority on the roster and players.

But you can’t convince me Housley has made good personnel decisions

Tank Commander
Tank you
Pegulatown
Frank the tank
Tank4ever
- mhp

Tank4ever

A+++

Botts walked into a gold mine. Having a miserable season with no consequences then getting Dahlin was icing on the cake. He should be fired.
- Hatboro_Swords

Is this serious? He inherited Moulson/Okposo/Bogo contracts, had Kane on an expiring contract, had 0 organizational depth, had a poor Rochester team, had to find a coach. Had a goalie with substance abuse issues who needed a contract

I mean, come on

Tyrod got traded for a 3rd rounder (first pick in the 3rd mind you)

I am not sure what Elway is doing
- Stripes77

I thought we were going to cut tyrod.

That 3rd must have had some hue jackson surrounding it.

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Is this serious? He inherited Moulson/Okposo/Bogo contracts, had Kane on an expiring contract, had 0 organizational depth, had a poor Rochester team, had to find a coach. Had a goalie with substance abuse issues who needed a contract

I mean, come on
- sbroads24

Fine. A trailer, but there was $20,000 in a mattress.

Of course I do. Who is saying the Bills won free agency?
- Hatboro_Swords

Pegullaville

Amerks win 3-0. Olofsson, CJ, Leier with the goals

Amerks win 3-0. Olofsson, CJ, Leier with the goals
- gordong

Apparently Roch is no longer a poor team. I’m just sayin.

Botts couldn’t have done anything else to bring in more scoring or get a different option for 2C?

Skinner- great
Sheary- meh
Berglund- horrible
Tage- disappointing
Sobatka- pretty bad

1 for 5 by my count
1 for 6 if u include counting on Mitts for offensive help

This isn’t about ROR or Kane
It about how all he ended up doing was REPLACING their scoring and the moves he made to actually IMPROVE SCORING...
they FAILED
They failed big time
- jdfitz77

Jbotts improved most of those positions, which wasnt saying much.

Pouliot
Nolan
Chisto
Antipin
Baptiste
Jospensson
Griffith
Faulk
Gorges
Moulson
Sabres lehner
Chad Ochoa

No name a few.

Ror is the only downgrade I can think of.

All the core guys have put up better numbers

Regardless...

Homie has said the plan this year was to compete for the playoffs,
Not “stealth tank”

I believe that

In that regard, it’s been a total failure
And a big part of it has been the guys that Botts put here for Phil

Botts absolutely has to own some of the blame here
- jdfitz77

Plans change from to time.

The term plan B comes to mind

Botts walked into a gold mine. Having a miserable season with no consequences then getting Dahlin was icing on the cake. He should be fired.
- Hatboro_Swords

Why would they fire jbotts before the draft?

After less then 2 seasons?

He seems to have drafted pretty good so far?

Fine. A trailer, but there was $20,000 in a mattress.
- Hatboro_Swords

He inherited Eichel.

I don’t think JB is blameless at all for this year.

I just think we’re closer than the standings show.

It’s a big offseason.

He inherited Eichel.

I don’t think JB is blameless at all for this year.

I just think we’re closer than the standings show.

It’s a big offseason.
- sbroads24

JB's plan is obvious. He traded RoR and Kane for 2019 1sts and took on cap dumps to improve the team long term. His priority was not on this season.

I expected a stronger second half and a stronger contributions from some prospects, but it seems that a lot of the Amerks are just 23/24 year old depth players.

JB's plan is obvious. He traded RoR and Kane for 2019 1sts and took on cap dumps to improve the team long term. His priority was not on this season.

I expected a stronger second half and a stronger contributions from some prospects, but it seems that a lot of the Amerks are just 23/24 year old depth players.
- Lunaion

It would really help if Nylander turned out.

I expect Asplund to be a solid NHL’er.

Not 100% sold on Borgen yet

It would really help if Nylander turned out.

I expect Asplund to be a solid NHL’er.

Not 100% sold on Borgen yet
- sbroads24

Yeah, for as successful as the Amerks appear, who on that roster is going to make an impact on the Sabres?

As you say, hopefully Asplund, perhaps Borgen, I guess Smith might have a shot, after that it’s longshots and lottery tickets for the most part.

Their success seems due to thirty-something year old vets, who couldn’t make it in the nhl, dominating kids.

Yeah, for as successful as the Amerks appear, who on that roster is going to make an impact on the Sabres?

As you say, hopefully Asplund, perhaps Borgen, I guess Smith might have a shot, after that it’s longshots and lottery tickets for the most part.

Their success seems due to thirty-something year old vets, who couldn’t make it in the nhl, dominating kids.
- PrinceChill

Smith, Asplund and Olofsson can hopefully upgrade some of the bottom 9.

We’re going to sign or trade for a top 6 fwd IMO

Smith, Asplund and Olofsson can hopefully upgrade some of the bottom 9.

We’re going to sign or trade for a top 6 fwd IMO
- sbroads24

I forgot Olo somehow. A trade for a top 6 would most likely have to involve Risto, our 2019 1st, or something else we’d not want to think about. Let’s hope other GMs don’t see Risto like you do or else the return will be paltry indeed.

To sign one, were most likely looking at big numbers of both term and salary.

It would really help if Nylander turned out.

I expect Asplund to be a solid NHL’er.

Not 100% sold on Borgen yet
- sbroads24

Asplund is on a different track than the majority of the others. The inability to take advantage of their opportunities is troubling, and has been for years. Casey Nelson and ERod have their feel-good stories, but they simply have to draft and develop better.

I think JB knew the current crop of prospects wasn't that good and definitely wasn't ready to contribute. If he did, then not being more aggressive makes all the sense in the world.

I forgot Olo somehow. A trade for a top 6 would most likely have to involve Risto, our 2019 1st, or something else we’d not want to think about. Let’s hope other GMs don’t see Risto like you do or else the return will be paltry indeed.

To sign one, were most likely looking at big numbers of both term and salary.
- PrinceChill

The Devils are going off.

The Devils are going off.
- Hatboro_Swords

Can’t catch the Devils. Maybe the Oil’s firepower turns it on in the 3rd.