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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
Doughty is not nor ever will be Pronger, he is a great player though. Pronger was the MVP of the league in his prime, Doughty never sniffed that. When was the last time a Dman won the Hart, might have been Pronger.
- ClaudeFather



That's true that Doughty has never won the Hart but that was only one season. Doughty has won the Norris trophy and should've won it more than once in my opinion. Doughty is absolutely in the class of Pronger as a player and has arguably been the best defenseman in the NHL over a significant period of time.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Mar 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
YOUR GUESS?
- wcorvette


I have no idea. But for the fun of the poll, I'll take 175

Makes sense that adding strength would be a big part of his prep work. But isn't skating one of his better attributes? I doubt he would risk impacting his skating ability & conditioning by getting on some swoll routine before his first camp.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
That's true that Doughty has never won the Hart but that was only one season. Doughty has won the Norris trophy and should've won it more than once in my opinion. Doughty is absolutely in the class of Pronger as a player and has arguably been the best defenseman in the NHL over a significant period of time.
- MJL

He is not in the class of Pronger, a Dman has not won the Hart in 20 years besides him. Pronger was defensively outstanding, feared league wide, and was no slouch on offense. He also went to the cup with 3 different teams, shows the type of impact he had where ever he went.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Farabee is still young, so he has time to fill out, but he has spaghetti arms. Hopefully he hits the gym or he's gonna get pushed off the puck in the NHL.
- Thors-Hammer



Yeah because Debrincat and Nugent-hopkins are huge.

He'll get stronger but he's never going to manhandle someone. His game is speeds and smarts.

How much weight you think Sanheim plays at?

I see Farabee maybe eventually around 190. I think he might be able to gain about 10-15 pouds depending on his training.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
I have no idea. But for the fun of the poll, I'll take 175

Makes sense that adding strength would be a big part of his prep work. But isn't skating one of his better attributes? I doubt he would risk impacting his skating ability & conditioning by getting on some swoll routine before his first camp.

- Big_E_88



Thanks for playing..

Frost put on 10 last summer, hard to know exact but from what I could see it was 10. I think they probably put on a couple pounds just because the season is over and they can train more. At his weight and his age 10 pounds shouldn't slow him down, it should be good weight and in theory make him a better/stronger skater
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 3:05 PM ET
15 quality pounds in 6 months = PEDs. IMO
- Big_E_88


Farabee is a 19 YO college kid. He'll have no problem putting on weight if he is on the right program and led by the right people without PEDs.

Looking after his body like this is his literal job now.

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 25 @ 3:06 PM ET
I really hope Frost makes the team next year. If we can get 1 All-Star FA signing we are a playoff team again. One offensive all-star and 1 #2-#3 defenseman will make us Cup contenders IMO. I have a feeling one of Voracek or Ghost wont be back next year, I'm guessing Ghost.

JVR-Couturier-Giroux
????-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Frost-Konecny (Frosts and Konecny's speed excites me.)
Laughton-Knight-Hartman

Provorov-??????
Morin-Sanheim
Gudas/Hagg-Myers

Hart
Talbot

Obviously If Morin isnt working you replace him with Gudas, and Freidman is your 7th.

?????? on defense could be T.Myers, or Trouba if we trade for him and I'm thinking Panarin or Duchene for the offense. Maybe Hayes.

- youarewrong



just why?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
Farabee is a 19 YO college kid. He'll have no problem putting on weight if he is on the right program and led by the right people without PEDs.

Looking after his body like this is his literal job now.

- johndewar

Not to mention he is probably currently playing light, it's hard to maintain weight throughout the course of a season practicing everyday and games on the weekends. He should have no problem putting on 10 pounds. Regardless, I don't think he makes the big club out of camp.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 3:08 PM ET
just why?
- nastyflyergirl


This organization has harbored a weird fascination with Knight since 2016, but I figured that was because of Knight's UND ties.

Nowadays, I have no idea how he found his way into favor.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 3:08 PM ET
Not to mention he is probably currently playing light, it's hard to maintain weight throughout the course of a season practicing everyday and games on the weekends. He should have no problem putting on 10 pounds. Regardless, I don't think he makes the big club out of camp.
- ClaudeFather


Me neither, but you never know.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 3:15 PM ET
He is not in the class of Pronger, a Dman has not won the Hart in 20 years besides him. Pronger was defensively outstanding, feared league wide, and was no slouch on offense. He also went to the cup with 3 different teams, shows the type of impact he had where ever he went.
- ClaudeFather


Doughty has only played in one team. Doughty is going to go into the Hall of Fame. That puts him in the same class.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
Farabee is a 19 YO college kid. He'll have no problem putting on weight if he is on the right program and led by the right people without PEDs.

Looking after his body like this is his literal job now.

- johndewar


The kid looks scrawny and high as (frank). Regardless a welcomed addition
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 3:26 PM ET
Doughty has only played in one team. Doughty is going to go into the Hall of Fame. That puts him in the same class.
- MJL

So Peter Forsberg is in the same class as Wayne Gretzky? Both in the hall of fame right. Stop this garbage.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 25 @ 3:26 PM ET
minus whoever may make the team, the Phantoms will be fun to watch

Connor Bunnaman
Joel Farabee
Morgan Frost
David Kase
Pascal Laberge
Isaac Ratcliffe
German Rubtsov
Felix Sandstrom
Maksim Sushko
Matthew Strome
Carsen Twarynski
Mikhail Vorobyev
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
The kid looks scrawny and high as (frank). Regardless a welcomed addition
- Just5

Lmao, i said to myself is he blitzed?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 3:29 PM ET
So Peter Forsberg is in the same class as Wayne Gretzky? Both in the hall of fame right. Stop this garbage.
- ClaudeFather


Gretzky us widely considered the best player ever. Pronger is not in that class. Make a reasonable comparison as I did.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 3:31 PM ET
Gretzky us widely considered the best player ever. Pronger is not in that class. Make a reasonable comparison as I did.
- MJL

I used that example to show you how absurd saying they are/will be in the HOF is. I'm done with this argument.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 3:31 PM ET
The kid looks scrawny and high as (frank). Regardless a welcomed addition
- Just5


Well, if he gets high, I'm sure eating to put weight on won't be a problem.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 3:34 PM ET
minus whoever may make the team, the Phantoms will be fun to watch

Connor Bunnaman
Joel Farabee
Morgan Frost
David Kase
Pascal Laberge
Isaac Ratcliffe
German Rubtsov
Felix Sandstrom
Maksim Sushko
Matthew Strome
Carsen Twarynski
Mikhail Vorobyev

- nastyflyergirl


Don't forget Amac. A bonified second pairing NHL dman in the minors. An absolute treat for all to behold.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 3:40 PM ET
I used that example to show you how absurd saying they are/will be in the HOF is. I'm done with this argument.
- ClaudeFather


The comparison using Gretzky was poorly thought out.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
The comparison using Gretzky was poorly thought out.
- MJL

Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
Is it possible Farabee might find himself in the CHL next year? Given his size and age it might make sense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 3:53 PM ET

- ClaudeFather



Giving a thumbs up to your own comparison being poorly thought out. I like it!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 25 @ 4:01 PM ET
if ghost struggles again why would a team trade for him?
- 2Real


With that contract, he'll have plenty of suitors. On top of that teams always can use defensemen who can carry the puck and help a PP.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Mar 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
minus whoever may make the team, the Phantoms will be fun to watch

Connor Bunnaman
Joel Farabee
Morgan Frost
David Kase
Pascal Laberge
Isaac Ratcliffe
German Rubtsov
Felix Sandstrom
Maksim Sushko
Matthew Strome
Carsen Twarynski
Mikhail Vorobyev

- nastyflyergirl


Very very exciting. Also Bunnaman and maybe even Allison, Laczinski, Cates if the sign.
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