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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
With that contract, he'll have plenty of suitors. On top of that teams always can use defensemen who can carry the puck and help a PP.
- Pelle31Forever

but is a liability in front of the net on d...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:10 PM ET

- ClaudeFather


Come on, using Gretzky is hyperbole. The better comparison is that Rod Langway is in the same class as Bobby Orr.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:11 PM ET
but is a liability in front of the net on d...
- 2Real


I thought we were talking about Ghost, not Brent Burns.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 25 @ 4:13 PM ET
but is a liability in front of the net on d...
- 2Real


He is but I still feel teams will be interested.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
Come on, using Gretzky is hyperbole. The better comparison is that Rod Langway is in the same class as Bobby Orr.
- jmatchett383

HOF right
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
I thought we were talking about Ghost, not Brent Burns.
- jmatchett383

burns would be much better at forward he'd fit right in
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
Come on, using Gretzky is hyperbole. The better comparison is that Rod Langway is in the same class as Bobby Orr.
- jmatchett383


They both won the Norris trophy for VERY, VERY different reasons despite, theoretically, playing the same position.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
Is it possible Farabee might find himself in the CHL next year? Given his size and age it might make sense.
- Baxter27


Yes teammates with big Sammy for rimouski
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:29 PM ET
They both won the Norris trophy for VERY, VERY different reasons despite, theoretically, playing the same position.
- johndewar


But they're both in the HOF, which means they're basically the same player...

..because that's the best argument to make when comparing players.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 4:30 PM ET
But they're both in the HOF, which means they're basically the same player.
- jmatchett383


Oh, absolutely, without question.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 4:30 PM ET
Yes teammates with big Sammy for rimouski
- Just5


I remember the night of the 2013 draft, fans were pleading for the pick not to be Morin. A player viewed largely as a "project" that early in the draft is often foolish. Lucky the Flyers know better than the rank and file fans.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
Is it possible Farabee might find himself in the CHL next year? Given his size and age it might make sense.
- Baxter27


I guess it's possible. But I'd think the Flyers would want him in the AHL, and he'd probably like to start earning his pay (although not NHL pay) as early as possible.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
But they're both in the HOF, which means they're basically the same player...

..because that's the best argument to make when comparing players.

- jmatchett383


Of course. Is there any other way to compare players?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 25 @ 4:34 PM ET
In making my snarky remark comparing Langway to Orr, I saw that they (frank)ing gave Rod Langway not one, but two (frank)ing Norris trophies in the early to mid-80's.

(frank) the NHL awards forever for screwing over Mark Howe during both of those years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:41 PM ET
In making my snarky remark comparing Langway to Orr, I saw that they (frank)ing gave Rod Langway not one, but two (frank)ing Norris trophies in the early to mid-80's.

(frank) the NHL awards forever for screwing over Mark Howe during both of those years.

- johndewar


Mark Howe probably should have won it in 1983. 1984 should have gone to Coffey or Bourque. Heck, Dennis Potvin would have been a better pick. After that, it was a run of Coffey, Bourque, Chelios, and Leetch that I can't really argue with.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 25 @ 4:43 PM ET
In making my snarky remark comparing Langway to Orr, I saw that they (frank)ing gave Rod Langway not one, but two (frank)ing Norris trophies in the early to mid-80's.

(frank) the NHL awards forever for screwing over Mark Howe during both of those years.

- johndewar


Howe was a Norris trophy worthy defenseman. It's a sin he didn't get one.
I also think that Orr is the best player to play the game. His impact, skating and how he changed the way d men play was revolutionary. Gretzky was also revolutionary and he set every offensive record known to man but he didn't really change the way the game was played.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 4:45 PM ET
Howe was a Norris trophy worthy defenseman. It's a sin he didn't get one.
I also think that Orr is the best player to play the game. His impact, skating and how he changed the way d men play was revolutionary. Gretzky was also revolutionary and he set every offensive record known yo man but he didn't really change the way the game was played.

- jaws1955


Gretzky didn't change the way the game was played, but he did do things no one had done before (set up behind the net, curl just across the blue line) that seem like common sense today. He also was probably the best player ever at using his linemates to their full advantage.

For my money, I agree that Orr is probably the best ever, but there's definitely arguments to make for both Gretzky and Lemieux.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Mar 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
Gretzky didn't change the way the game was played, but he did do things no one had done before (set up behind the net, curl just across the blue line) that seem like common sense today.

For my money, I agree that Orr is probably the best ever, but there's definitely arguments to make for both Gretzky and Lemieux.

- jmatchett383

No doubt they were the 3 best talents to ever play Lemieux had a much shorter career and didn't get to use his talent long enough. Plus he is a Penquin which of course means he sucks ass.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 4:50 PM ET
I remember the night of the 2013 draft, fans were pleading for the pick not to be Morin. A player viewed largely as a "project" that early in the draft is often foolish. Lucky the Flyers know better than the rank and file fans.
- PLindbergh31


It’ll all come together. Give it time
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 25 @ 4:53 PM ET
It’ll all come together. Give it time
- Just5


Missing the playoffs in year 5 of the rebuild. Pretty rough. What is the minimum acceptable result next year? At least a playoff series win?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
It’ll all come together. Give it time
- Just5

5 years later

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
Missing the playoffs in year 5 of the rebuild. Pretty rough. What is the minimum acceptable result next year? At least a playoff series win?
- PLindbergh31

a goal in the playoffs
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 5:02 PM ET
But they're both in the HOF, which means they're basically the same player...

..because that's the best argument to make when comparing players.

- jmatchett383


The Hall of Fame was just one aspect of the comparison. You know that but then hey let's not let that stop you from using this passive/aggressive tactic that you routinely accuse others of using.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 5:04 PM ET
The Hall of Fame was just one aspect of the comparison. You know that but then hey let's not let that stop you from using this passive/aggressive tactic that you routinely accuse others of using.

- MJL


Sadly, the solenoid has to be mounted vertically.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 5:06 PM ET
Missing the playoffs in year 5 of the rebuild. Pretty rough. What is the minimum acceptable result next year? At least a playoff series win?
- PLindbergh31


Probably something like that. I think it will be a busy summer. I see ghost involved in a deal with prospects/picks to get a young top 4 d in here that is an all around dman like a trouba. I’m not on board with that I can just see them wanting to mix up the D
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