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hehateme
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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 04.11.2017
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I just can’t wait for this misery to end.
2 things that are a must for me this off season
Fire Housley
Trade Risto and his league leading -42. I still can’t believe that number. JFC -42!!! |
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gordong
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Location: NY Joined: 02.06.2007
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I just can’t wait for this misery to end.
2 things that are a must for me this off season
Fire Housley
Trade Risto and his league leading -42. I still can’t believe that number. JFC -42!!! - hehateme
agreed on the first part Phil must go get a coach with some emotion behind the bench, something anything other than Housley, Not trading Risto unless we get a great return... |
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I just can’t wait for this misery to end.
2 things that are a must for me this off season
Fire Housley
Trade Risto and his league leading -42. I still can’t believe that number. JFC -42!!! - hehateme
talk on twitter from a couple of Edmonton guys have a link between risto and rnh |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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talk on twitter from a couple of Edmonton guys have a link between risto and rnh - Michael Pachla
right now, I would pass on that deal
risto is locked up for 3 more years
RNH for 2 more years
BUT....................................
If there is a lockout in 20-21 we only get him for 1 year |
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right now, I would pass on that deal
risto is locked up for 3 more years
RNH for 2 more years
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If there is a lockout in 20-21 we only get him for 1 year - homiedclown
good thinking...what's amazing is that this is how jim matheson approached rnh possibly being traded:
"sorry but this isn't new news. Trading Nuge? There are lots of teams looking for centres but I agree you don't trade a C for a winger. You trade a C for a top pairing D which is why an RNH for Buffalo's Ristolainen scenario is out there." |
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hehateme
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Joined: 04.11.2017
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agreed on the first part Phil must go get a coach with some emotion behind the bench, something anything other than Housley, Not trading Risto unless we get a great return... - gordong
Did you see where I said he is a -42!!! |
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Did you see where I said he is a -42!!! - hehateme
I thought plus/minus didn't matter in the world of advanced stats? |
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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 04.11.2017
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talk on twitter from a couple of Edmonton guys have a link between risto and rnh - Michael Pachla
Great. I would do that deal. I really don’t think Risto is that good. Stats say it. My eyes say it, his -42 screams it and if we can get a decent center for him I say do it. |
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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Maybe if the forwards would learn how to play a little defense or his d partner would know which side of the ice he is supposed to cover, Risto's +/- wouldn't be so bad. It seems that the majority of the goals he's on the ice for he is trying to cover 2-3 guys or someone on the opposite side of the ice is left wide open. He also has 36 less points than Eichel who is a -10. If Eichel had a 10-12 game slump like a few others he could easily be in the -20s range. Add 16 empty net goals doesn't help, nor does questionable goal tending the 2nd half of the season. On December 31st he has a -11. Just saying, the whole team was bad since the new year. |
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Maybe if the forwards would learn how to play a little defense or his d partner would know which side of the ice he is supposed to cover, Risto's +/- wouldn't be so bad. It seems that the majority of the goals he's on the ice for he is trying to cover 2-3 guys or someone on the opposite side of the ice is left wide open. He also has 36 less points than Eichel who is a -10. If Eichel had a 10-12 game slump like a few others he could easily be in the -20s range. Add 16 empty net goals doesn't help, nor does questionable goal tending the 2nd half of the season. On December 31st he has a -11. Just saying, the whole team was bad since the new year. - adambuffalo
this is a good post |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I’m just happy Nylander is just proving everyone wrong
Like I said his game is Meant for the NHL not the AHL |
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SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA Joined: 03.20.2012
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Great. I would do that deal. I really don’t think Risto is that good. Stats say it. My eyes say it, his -42 screams it and if we can get a decent center for him I say do it. - hehateme
Risto may or may not be good for this team, but he is a tremendous asset to have, and I have no doubt that he would be highly coveted by GM's throughout the league if he were made available. We know Tampa wanted him, right? That says it all right there. |
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I’m just happy Nylander is just proving everyone wrong
Like I said his game is Meant for the NHL not the AHL - gerbe75pts
as someone posted the other day, I would like nothing better than for him to prove us all wrong (even if it means giving you bragging rights ) |
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SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA Joined: 03.20.2012
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I’m just happy Nylander is just proving everyone wrong
Like I said his game is Meant for the NHL not the AHL - gerbe75pts
Still too small a sample to draw any lasting conclusions, but props to you for being one of the only Nylander champions I saw. I certainly had given up hope. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Maybe if the forwards would learn how to play a little defense or his d partner would know which side of the ice he is supposed to cover, Risto's +/- wouldn't be so bad. It seems that the majority of the goals he's on the ice for he is trying to cover 2-3 guys or someone on the opposite side of the ice is left wide open. He also has 36 less points than Eichel who is a -10. If Eichel had a 10-12 game slump like a few others he could easily be in the -20s range. Add 16 empty net goals doesn't help, nor does questionable goal tending the 2nd half of the season. On December 31st he has a -11. Just saying, the whole team was bad since the new year. - adambuffalo
regarding the +/-
risto has played 420 games as a sabre
the sabres have been really bad for those 420 games
-38 goal differential this year
-81 last year
-36 the year before
-21 the year before
-113 the year before
-91 in his rookie year
he was on the ice for 33 to 45% of the time during those seasons
he was probably on the ice for 80% of the short handed goals scored against during those 6 seasons
probably 95% of those empty net goals allowed during those 6 seasons
right now, as bad as some people think risto is, the team is much worse leaning on nelson or borgen for 23 minutes a night next season
I'd move risto for the right price, but I would not move him just to move him |
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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 04.11.2017
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Risto may or may not be good for this team, but he is a tremendous asset to have, and I have no doubt that he would be highly coveted by GM's throughout the league if he were made available. We know Tampa wanted him, right? That says it all right there. - SoCalPucks
He SUCKS. He is a -42. Look at just the last 5 games, Dahlin, Montour and Risto have all played just about the same number of mins and shift give or take a bit, Montour -1, Dahlin -3, Risto -8.
I think as a fan base we have to stop making excuses for Risto. He is not good enough to play against the other teams top lines. |
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SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA Joined: 03.20.2012
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regarding the +/-
risto has played 420 games as a sabre
the sabres have been really bad for those 420 games
-38 goal differential this year
-81 last year
-36 the year before
-21 the year before
-113 the year before
-91 in his rookie year
he was on the ice for 33 to 45% of the time during those seasons
he was probably on the ice for 80% of the short handed goals scored against during those 6 seasons
probably 95% of those empty net goals allowed during those 6 seasons
right now, as bad as some people think risto is, the team is much worse leaning on nelson or borgen for 23 minutes a night next season
I'd move risto for the right price, but I would not move him just to move him - homiedclown
This.
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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He SUCKS. He is a -42. Look at just the last 5 games, Dahlin, Montour and Risto have all played just about the same number of mins and shift give or take a bit, Montour -1, Dahlin -3, Risto -8.
I think as a fan base we have to stop making excuses for Risto. He is not good enough to play against the other teams top lines. - hehateme
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regarding the +/-
risto has played 420 games as a sabre
the sabres have been really bad for those 420 games
-38 goal differential this year
-81 last year
-36 the year before
-21 the year before
-113 the year before
-91 in his rookie year
he was on the ice for 33 to 45% of the time during those seasons
he was probably on the ice for 80% of the short handed goals scored against during those 6 seasons
probably 95% of those empty net goals allowed during those 6 seasons
right now, as bad as some people think risto is, the team is much worse leaning on nelson or borgen for 23 minutes a night next season
I'd move risto for the right price, but I would not move him just to move him - homiedclown
PK doesn't equate to plus minus but I get it. If we had a say, sit him down for 5 games. I am sure the Sabres will win because his -42 will go away. |
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talk on twitter from a couple of Edmonton guys have a link between risto and rnh - Michael Pachla
Hmmm. I don't hate this idea, but I just can't see it being a one for one swap. |
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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He SUCKS. He is a -42. Look at just the last 5 games, Dahlin, Montour and Risto have all played just about the same number of mins and shift give or take a bit, Montour -1, Dahlin -3, Risto -8.
I think as a fan base we have to stop making excuses for Risto. He is not good enough to play against the other teams top lines. - hehateme
So you use the last 5 games to show he is a -8 but don't mention that the team gave up 23 goals in those 5 games. Against Pittsburgh, Washington and Tampa Bay he is a combined +3.
Edit: Eichel is also a -8 in his last 5 games and he missed the 5-0 penguins game. Reinhart is a -6, and Okposo is a +1 in the last 5. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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PK doesn't equate to plus minus but I get it. If we had a say, sit him down for 5 games. I am sure the Sabres will win because his -42 will go away. - Tragically Buffalo
if you are on the power play, and you give up a shortie, you get a minus |
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