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avsgrinder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.24.2018

Mar 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
You wouldn't be surprised to see him in St. Louis or Dallas? I sure would.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/blues

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/stars

- eichiefs9



fair enough, i obviously wasn’t considering cap room in my speculation. point still stands; no way he’s a ranger come the 2019/2020 season.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
Every person in the world should have Edmonton #1.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
fair enough, i obviously wasn’t considering cap room in my speculation. point still stands; no way he’s a ranger come the 2020/2021 season.
- avsgrinder

Probably not, no. I still think he takes a slight discount to go to Nashville. I'm sure the Islanders take a run at him.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
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wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
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Mar 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
I honestly think the Rangers will steal the show and sign both Panarin and Duchene. Just seems like something they would do.
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
Probably not, no. I still think he takes a slight discount to go to Nashville. I'm sure the Islanders take a run at him.
- eichiefs9

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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
ITS ON LAWN GUY LAND NOT IN LAWN GUY LAND!!!
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avsgrinder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.24.2018

Mar 25 @ 1:31 PM ET
Probably not, no. I still think he takes a slight discount to go to Nashville. I'm sure the Islanders take a run at him.
- eichiefs9


yah i could def see the isles making a run for him and/or panarin. nashville makes sense if they’re willing to dish out the money. san jose is perhaps a possibility as well assuming karlsson is out after this year.

tbh i don’t think the rangers are going to make any gigantic moves this summer like they’ve been known to do in years prior. they have a lot of work to do and a lot of positions to fill, signing just one (or even two) big name players doesn’t suddenly catapult them into contention.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 25 @ 1:32 PM ET
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- wcorvette


disagree
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 25 @ 1:33 PM ET
Probably not, no. I still think he takes a slight discount to go to Nashville. I'm sure the Islanders take a run at him.
- eichiefs9


that's the team I see him with next year.

they're not in a rebuild, they have the cap space to sign him, and they're in need of a center. perfect fit
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
yah i could def see the isles making a run for him and/or panarin. nashville makes sense if they’re willing to dish out the money. san jose is perhaps a possibility as well assuming karlsson is out after this year.

tbh i don’t think the rangers are going to make any gigantic moves this summer like they’ve been known to do in years prior. they have a lot of work to do and a lot of positions to fill, signing just one (or even two) big name players doesn’t suddenly catapult them into contention.

- avsgrinder

Rangers are already reportedly going to be making an offer to Panarin. I don't think the Rangers rebuild is going to be nearly as long as you think. They're a major-market Original 6 team in a very desirable place to live. They may not be Cup contenders in the next few years, but they'll get back to being competitive sooner than later.

Isles will absolutely be in on Panarin.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
that's the team I see him with next year.

they're not in a rebuild, they have the cap space to sign him, and they're in need of a center. perfect fit

- sensarmy_11

They'll be in the mix. I really think he ultimately decides to sign in Nashville unless they seriously low-ball him.
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Guhle is already the McJesus of defense , ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Mar 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
You can actually go into his spreadsheet and look at everything.

He has the Habs/Canes game last night marked as an OT/SO win for the Habs.

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Well to be fair they should've won in regulation if it wasn't for Benn's leg


uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

Mar 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
Ek's record is 68-68. Maybe tonight he'll get back above .500.

Also, Philly is not the 2nd best team since January 1. Not even close to being the 2nd best. They are 21-14-3 since January 1. Teams with better winning percentage during this time:

Tampa
Carolina
Calgary
San Jose
New York Islanders
St.Louis
Boston
Vegas
Winnipeg
Washington

So not even in the top 10. Maybe the Buzztron says they are 2nd?

avsgrinder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.24.2018

Mar 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
Rangers are already reportedly going to be making an offer to Panarin. I don't think the Rangers rebuild is going to be nearly as long as you think. They're a major-market Original 6 team in a very desirable place to live. They may not be Cup contenders in the next few years, but they'll get back to being competitive sooner than later.

Isles will absolutely be in on Panarin.

- eichiefs9



i agree with what you said about the rangers; they should be competitive within a few years, but rebuilds still take some time and insofar as dutchy goes i just don’t see any way he’d sign with them. being competitive isn’t the same thing as being a contender; matt wants to win now as he’s made clear many times.

he’ll get big money regardless, so why sign with a team that will go through inevitable growing pains as opposed to one ready to go for it immediately?

i’m with you on duchene most likely signing with nashville if they want him.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 25 @ 1:47 PM ET
You wouldn't be surprised to see him in St. Louis or Dallas? I sure would.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/blues

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/stars

- eichiefs9

Don't see why the Stars couldn't make it work. Spezza's 7.5mil comes off the books and I doubt they resign Zucc considering the conditions on their picks and his immediate post-trade injury. Only other player on the team that'll need a notable raise is Lindell. They've also got a gaping hole at 2C that Duchene would fit into almost perfectly. I don't think there are many better fits out there, actually.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 25 @ 1:49 PM ET
They'll be in the mix. I really think he ultimately decides to sign in Nashville unless they seriously low-ball him.
- eichiefs9


Nashville already has a abundance of centers and a crap ton of money invested in them.....unless they can somehow manage to dump turris and his horrible contract on someone (unlikely) then I can't see them going after Duchene. He's going to want at least 9 mil, this is his one and only shot of getting that "big contract", I can't see him taking a discount.

Plus, I think the preds money is much better spent trying to re-sign Simmonds.....they need him more than they do another center
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 1:52 PM ET
Don't see why the Stars couldn't make it work. Spezza's 7.5mil comes off the books and I doubt they resign Zucc considering the conditions on their picks and his immediate post-trade injury. Only other player on the team that'll need a notable raise is Lindell. They've also got a gaping hole at 2C that Duchene would fit into almost perfectly. I don't think there are many better fits out there, actually.
- MaximumBone

They have three defenseman under contract for next year right now. Duchene will get more than Spezza's $7.5M. I don't see them committing all of Spezza's cap space + some of whatever space they gain from the ceiling going up to Duchene.

It's more realistic than STL though.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
Nashville already has a abundance of centers and a crap ton of money invested in them.....unless they can somehow manage to dump turris and his horrible contract on someone (unlikely) then I can't see them going after Duchene. He's going to want at least 9 mil, this is his one and only shot of getting that "big contract", I can't see him taking a discount.

Plus, I think the preds money is much better spent trying to re-sign Simmonds.....they need him more than they do another center

- sensarmy_11

Maybe not, but it's not impossible to think they get rid of one of their centers somehow or even do something drastic like trade Subban. For all of their talented players, not one has a NTC/NMC that was given to them by Nashville, outside of Rinne. That's amazing.

Simmonds stinks, I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole. His body is going to start falling apart soon and his game isn't what it used to be.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 25 @ 2:02 PM ET
Don't see why the Stars couldn't make it work. Spezza's 7.5mil comes off the books and I doubt they resign Zucc considering the conditions on their picks and his immediate post-trade injury. Only other player on the team that'll need a notable raise is Lindell. They've also got a gaping hole at 2C that Duchene would fit into almost perfectly. I don't think there are many better fits out there, actually.
- MaximumBone


to me, Dallas seems like a team that is forever "treading water".....they're never good enough to be a contender, but never bad enough to require a full rebuild. they kind of endlessly toil in that playoff bubble spot

to me the isles are a much better fit. they are in a position to start taking over that division soon. As the Pens and Caps core enter their 30's you're already starting to see other teams in the division catch up. I think the isles are positioned to win that division comfortably as early as next year. to me it seems like a more desirable situation for Duchene.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
They have three defenseman under contract for next year right now. Duchene will get more than Spezza's $7.5M. I don't see them committing all of Spezza's cap space + some of whatever space they gain from the ceiling going up to Duchene.

It's more realistic than STL though.

- eichiefs9

Spezza's 7.5 covers most of Duchene's likely contract, Methot's 4.5 can be split among Lindell's new contract and Duchene's and that still leaves the team with 5 mil to sign the depth of their roster. 9.5 for Duchene (looks high to me but it's UFA), 4.75 for Lindell, contracts for Honka and Fedun hardly change, don't resign Janmark and grab a couple sub-1mil contracts to fill out the bottom-6.

Benn- Seguin- Gurianov
Hintz- Duchene- Radulov
Cogliano- Faksa- Pitlick(?)
Richardinson- UFA- Comeau
UFA

Heiskanen- Klingberg
Lindell- Johns
Oleksiak- Honka
Fedun

I think it'd be a mistake to invest that much in Duchene, but I don't think Dallas is immune to UFA-syndrome especially with such a gaping hole at 2C without him.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 25 @ 2:06 PM ET
to me, Dallas seems like a team that is forever "treading water".....they're never good enough to be a contender, but never bad enough to require a full rebuild. they kind of endlessly toil in that playoff bubble spot

to me the isles are a much better fit. they are in a position to start taking over that division soon. As the Pens and Caps core enter their 30's you're already starting to see other teams in the division catch up. I think the isles are positioned to win that division comfortably as early as next year. to me it seems like a more desirable situation for Duchene.

- sensarmy_11

Both are solid options for him. I think Dallas has a greater concentration of elite players and that could be appealing for him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 2:09 PM ET
Spezza's 7.5 covers most of Duchene's likely contract, Methot's 4.5 can be split among Lindell's new contract and Duchene's and that still leaves the team with 5 mil to sign the depth of their roster. 9.5 for Duchene (looks high to me but it's UFA), 4.75 for Lindell, contracts for Honka and Fedun hardly change, don't resign Janmark and grab a couple sub-1mil contracts to fill out the bottom-6.

Benn- Seguin- Gurianov
Hintz- Duchene- Radulov
Cogliano- Faksa- Pitlick(?)
Richardinson- UFA- Comeau
UFA

Heiskanen- Klingberg
Lindell- Johns
Oleksiak- Honka
Fedun

I think it'd be a mistake to invest that much in Duchene, but I don't think Dallas is immune to UFA-syndrome especially with such a gaping hole at 2C without him.

- MaximumBone

It's definitely not impossible, but if I'm Dallas I'm looking to add on the blueline before anything. That blueline is ugly after the 1st pairing.

I think Duchene absolutely gets between $9M and $10M on the open market. Almost no UFA is worth what he signs for, but I don't think it'll be too far off for him. He's probably worth around $8.5M, so a million over that isn't a terribly-inflated price to pay.

Not sure what the return would be, but I could absolutely see Dallas being a destination for Nick Leddy in a trade.

edit: Dallas could trade for Leddy and go after someone like Hayes or Brock Nelson (if he doesn't re-sign with NYI) for way cheaper than Duchene
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Mar 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
Nashville already has a abundance of centers and a crap ton of money invested in them.....unless they can somehow manage to dump turris and his horrible contract on someone (unlikely) then I can't see them going after Duchene. He's going to want at least 9 mil, this is his one and only shot of getting that "big contract", I can't see him taking a discount.

Plus, I think the preds money is much better spent trying to re-sign Simmonds.....they need him more than they do another center

- sensarmy_11

Simmonds is trash.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 25 @ 2:17 PM ET
disagree
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