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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
Jan Levine: Rangers acquire Adam Fox from Hurricanes - My take Along with other implications to the deal...
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
To me, the difference is that Ovechkin always wanted to be on the ice scoring goals to help his team win (let's leave alone how not playing defense helped the team).
Nylander has no problem sitting at home across the ocean demanding more money which will inevitably destroy his teams chances at winning the Cup before it has to be dismantled.
THAT is the type of player we don't need.

- Tonybere


Fair points but you also have to imagine that he wants/needs to get paid. Sometimes that is your only bargaining chip. I don't like it but other players have done it too (Fedorov comes to mind). I recall the public opinion being pretty poor on that one too.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
The picks are what they are, much rather have the guy here all ready to step into a prominent role and not wait for a couple second rders to develop in a few years. This can only help them and not hurt them, that’s how I’m looking at it
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
Jan Levine: Rangers acquire Adam Fox from Hurricanes - My take
Along with other implications to the deal...

- airjan23

I do think this trade and getting the 2 pick has moved this rebuild into overdrive, maybe even hyperoverdrive if that’s even a thing. Perhaps ludicrous speed even
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

May 1 @ 1:09 PM ET
are you saying they've gone to plaid??
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Nice pickup by the Rangers, one of the benefits of a big market.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
are you saying they've gone to plaid??
- MeltingPlastic

Yes
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
Fox and ADA is a nice looking right side, just need to add a shutdown type guy. Lindgren/Hajek/Skjei on the left is a nice young core and Miller is a year or so away.

Need to find ways to get rid of Shatty/Pionk/Staal. I would just put Smith on the 4th line unless someone wants him.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Just curious, if they waited a year and got him for nothing, would that change his contract status going forward?

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
Nice pickup by the Rangers, one of the benefits of Adam Fox's hometown team.
- 13sundin13


ftfy
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
Just curious, if they waited a year and got him for nothing, would that change his contract status going forward?
- mdw7413

He may have only signed a 2 year ELC instead of the standard 3-year. Essentially the Rangers paid for an extra year on an ELC as well as getting him a year earlier/eliminating anyone else from being able to dangle offers in front of him.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

May 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
Fox and ADA is a nice looking right side, just need to add a shutdown type guy. Lindgren/Hajek/Skjei on the left is a nice young core and Miller is a year or so away.

Need to find ways to get rid of Shatty/Pionk/Staal. I would just put Smith on the 4th line unless someone wants him.

- nyrangers9479


I feel like they should just leave Shatty/Pionk/Staal alone. Maybe move Pionk if the return is fair.
Why not just go after Panarin, draft BPA with each pick you hold on to and let the team fill out as they will this season? Let the kids battle it out in camp to make the team and let them grow and gel throughout the year. Next season is REALLY going to be our time!!!!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
He may have only signed a 2 year ELC instead of the standard 3-year. Essentially the Rangers paid for an extra year on an ELC as well as getting him a year earlier/eliminating anyone else from being able to dangle offers in front of him.
- eichiefs9


Ok, thats what I was curious about. Wasn't sure how it works when you are signing your 1st contract as a free agent who wouldn't sign with the team that picked them.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Ok, thats what I was curious about. Wasn't sure how it works when you are signing your 1st contract as a free agent who wouldn't sign with the team that picked them.
- mdw7413

Yeah, that was it: see below



Fox is a Feb birthday and is 21 right now, prior to Sept 15 of this year. Players 18-21 (before 9/15 of the year they sign) sign three year ELC's. Next year he'd have been 22 in Feb and would've only signed a two year ELC.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 1 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yeah, that was it: see below



Fox is a Feb. birthday and is 21 right now, prior to Sept 15 of this year. Players 18-21 sign three year ELC's. Next year he'd have been 22 in Feb and would've only signed a two year ELC.

- eichiefs9


Muchos gracias
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 1 @ 1:23 PM ET
Muchos gracias
- mdw7413

CapFriendly's FAQ section is a great reference

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 1:24 PM ET
CapFriendly's FAQ section is a great reference

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq

- eichiefs9

Such a great site. Gonna be real shame when it shuts down.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 1 @ 1:25 PM ET
Such a great site. Gonna be real shame when it shuts down.
- tomburton99



Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 1:25 PM ET
He may have only signed a 2 year ELC instead of the standard 3-year. Essentially the Rangers paid for an extra year on an ELC as well as getting him a year earlier/eliminating anyone else from being able to dangle offers in front of him.
- eichiefs9

That’s a good enough reason for me to give some assets for him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 1 @ 1:27 PM ET
That’s a good enough reason for me to give some assets for him.
- Slimtj100

That plus you won't (as far as I understand) have to expose him in the expansion draft. I get the move but that seems like a little bit of a steep price to pay given that it was, seemingly, common knowledge that he was going to be a Ranger no matter what. But it's not outlandish or anything and given the pile of picks the Rangers had stacked up...it's not really a big deal.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 1 @ 1:28 PM ET
Completely hypothetical just to see what you guys think, and I don’t think this would ever happen just curious: let’s say the Rangers wanted to get Hank a cup and went after a guy like Malkin, are you making a trade like that if it cost you Lias, WPG 1st, Buchnevich, Lundqvist and Howden?

Kravtsov Malkin Chytil
Kreider Zib Panarin
Kakko Strome Lemeuix
Smith Boo Vesey/Nam
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 1 @ 1:29 PM ET
Completely hypothetical just to see what you guys think, and I don’t think this would ever happen just curious: let’s say the Rangers wanted to get Hank a cup and went after a guy like Malkin, are you making a trade like that if it cost you Lias, WPG 1st, Buchnevich, Lundqvist and Howden?

Kravtsov Malkin Chytil
Kreider Zib Panarin
Kakko Strome Lemeuix
Smith Boo Vesey/Nam

- nyrangers9479

What about nam and stinky
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 1:30 PM ET

- jimbro83

I mean I nver thought Capgeek was gonna fold and it did. I assume the person behind Capfriendly is gonna do the same thing at some point.
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

May 1 @ 1:30 PM ET
As a canes fan I’m more than happy with the return, I was hoping we’d be able to snag at least a 3rd from NYR as he was going there the whole time
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 1 @ 1:30 PM ET
Completely hypothetical just to see what you guys think, and I don’t think this would ever happen just curious: let’s say the Rangers wanted to get Hank a cup and went after a guy like Malkin, are you making a trade like that if it cost you Lias, WPG 1st, Buchnevich, Lundqvist and Howden?

Kravtsov Malkin Chytil
Kreider Zib Panarin
Kakko Strome Lemeuix
Smith Boo Vesey/Nam

- nyrangers9479



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