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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 4:44 PM ET
EK way better then trouba, but also 3 years older and will command close to $12m. Unfortunately term, cap, age come into factor here. if there was no cap EK all day.
- nyrangers2

So for 3 mill more a year, you don’t want all the stuff he brings? I’m still mind boggled. He’d be the game changer they would need. They’d be an absolute force to reckon with
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 1 @ 4:44 PM ET
They are gonna die?
- Feds91Stammer



I mean, technically-speaking, yes. At some point they will.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
So for 3 mill more a year, you don’t want all the stuff he brings? I’m still mind boggled. He’d be the game changer they would need. They’d be an absolute force to reckon with
- Slimtj100

Edit: the damn cap goes up 3 mill a year basically
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 1 @ 4:47 PM ET


I mean, technically-speaking, yes. At some point they will.

- eichiefs9

Well Tom is certain it will be due to Colon Cancer.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 4:49 PM ET
Well Tom is certain it will be due to Colon Cancer.
- Feds91Stammer

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 1 @ 4:52 PM ET
So for 3 mill more a year, you don’t want all the stuff he brings? I’m still mind boggled. He’d be the game changer they would need. They’d be an absolute force to reckon with
- Slimtj100



I think anyone opposed to Karlsson would enjoy this.

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 4:54 PM ET
I think anyone opposed to Karlsson would enjoy this.


- JRR1285

Is my argument compelling at least?

I’m not getting off this stance. You think Tom and 972729393737 can be annoying? You ain’t seen nothing yet
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 1 @ 4:57 PM ET
Is my argument compelling at least?

I’m not getting off this stance. You think Tom and 972729393737 can be annoying? You ain’t seen nothing yet

- Slimtj100



I'm with you, we'll die on this hill.

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:00 PM ET
I'm with you, we'll die on this hill.


- JRR1285

What can you cook? Because I can’t cook for shyt this hill is a big enough for more people!!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 1 @ 5:04 PM ET
I didn't read any of the other offers, i just thought i saw a rangers fan trying to keep pionk out of a trade and thought it was dumb. Makes more sense when the person trying to keep pionk out of the trade is from WPG
- picklerick

sorry wasn't trying to be rude, just don't want pionk
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 1 @ 5:05 PM ET
What can you cook? Because I can’t cook for shyt this hill is a big enough for more people!!
- Slimtj100



I got you covered.

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 1 @ 5:08 PM ET
sorry wasn't trying to be rude, just don't want pionk
- Ross77



That's fair.

What's your stance on Trouba? You think he's 100% gone, do you want him to stay?
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 1 @ 5:10 PM ET
Is my argument compelling at least?

I’m not getting off this stance. You think Tom and 972729393737 can be annoying? You ain’t seen nothing yet

- Slimtj100



Your argument is weak at best. Nobody is saying that EK sucks, he is great! Problem is, he will want to get PAID to a contract that we here just don't want to provide him. Wrong place, wrong team, wrong time.
NY Rangers timeline is approx. 2 more years ----- if we sign him now, he will be past his prime and his window will be closing while team door will be opening. His contract will become a huge anchor that will hold team back.
The candle that burns twice as bright only burns half as long ----- and EKs candle is shining soo brightly.
You will die on this hill, good luck!
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:18 PM ET
Your argument is weak at best. Nobody is saying that EK sucks, he is great! Problem is, he will want to get PAID to a contract that we here just don't want to provide him. Wrong place, wrong team, wrong time.
NY Rangers timeline is approx. 2 more years ----- if we sign him now, he will be past his prime and his window will be closing while team door will be opening. His contract will become a huge anchor that will hold team back.
The candle that burns twice as bright only burns half as long ----- and EKs candle is shining soo brightly.
You will die on this hill, good luck!

- TommyGTrain


Quite frankly, I think you’re nuts
I get the age and years and all that I really do. He just doesn’t seem human to me. Like nothing goes wrong, he can overcome anything. He’s a special player, one like we haven’t seen in a long time. Almost Messier like.

I also think if you did add him this summer, with the kids coming they could actually make the playoffs and as we’ve seen you never know what can happen
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 1 @ 5:28 PM ET
Quite frankly, I think you’re nuts
I get the age and years and all that I really do. He just doesn’t seem human to me. Like nothing goes wrong, he can overcome anything. He’s a special player, one like we haven’t seen in a long time. Almost Messier like.

I also think if you did add him this summer, with the kids coming they could actually make the playoffs and as we’ve seen you never know what can happen

- Slimtj100



Absolutely! We agree. But then the last 4+ years of his contract kick in and he no longer plays like Messier, he plays like Gomez. Then what?
Cap has changed everything, this isn't the 90s anymore where we can just buy our way out of trouble...
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 5:31 PM ET
Absolutely! We agree. But then the last 4+ years of his contract kick in and he no longer plays like Messier, he plays like Gomez. Then what?
Cap has changed everything, this isn't the 90s anymore where we can just buy our way out of trouble...

- TommyGTrain



Without getting yelled at, is it realistic, Cap wise, to have both Panarin and EK?
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
Without getting yelled at, is it realistic, Cap wise, to have both Panarin and EK?
- rrentz



No yelling

Sure its possible, but you would have to move out Shatty, Kreider and Namestikov without taking back significant contract $$. Possible, just VERY unlikely.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
Absolutely! We agree. But then the last 4+ years of his contract kick in and he no longer plays like Messier, he plays like Gomez. Then what?
Cap has changed everything, this isn't the 90s anymore where we can just buy our way out of trouble...

- TommyGTrain

You don’t know that, that’s all I hear. Like it’s guaranteed he’ll shutdown. You can say that about any player. The only answer then is to never sign another free agent, like ever again.

If he was 35 ok yea, he’d be 29 opening night. That argument doesn’t fly with me. Even if that did happen maybe they will have one a cup or two by then.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 5:37 PM ET
No yelling

Sure its possible, but you would have to move out Shatty, Kreider and Namestikov without taking back significant contract $$. Possible, just VERY unlikely.

- TommyGTrain


That's what I figured.....so....get Panarin, and maybe trade for Trouba
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
Without getting yelled at, is it realistic, Cap wise, to have both Panarin and EK?
- rrentz

I’m all bark and no bite haha

They could do it some finagling. The other thing everyone brings up is these other teams are in cap hell from monster contacts, and they’re there because they give out stupid money to bad players. We have two not even that terrible contracts right now and they end soon. The key is to not sign 3-4 guys like that, we’d be home free after that. Surviving the next two years would be the issue, but it could be done

I’m also not so sure Panarin is coming either, it’s like a forgone conclusion he is coming here. If that doesn’t happen they better have a plan B
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
That's what I figured.....so....get Panarin, and maybe trade for Trouba
- rrentz

id lose my mind you have no idea
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 5:45 PM ET
id lose my mind you have no idea
- Slimtj100

They can't bring in a D-man with moving one out. Cause Skjei/Smith/Shattenkirk/Staal make too much money.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
They can't bring in a D-man with moving one out. Cause Skjei/Smith/Shattenkirk/Staal make too much money.
- tomburton99

If they dumped Vesey, Nam, and Fast isn’t that like 10 mill? That’s Panarin right there. Who cares if those goes even play. I guess you’d have to trade Pionk and AD
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
If they dumped Vesey, Nam, and Fast isn’t that like 10 mill? That’s Panarin right there. Who cares if those goes even play. I guess you’d have to trade Pionk and AD
- Slimtj100

No I'm just say for a spot. on the blue line. Let's say they do and sign ek 65 for 11.5 million.

That means you have...

EK @ 11.5
Shatty @ 6.65
Staal @ 5.7
Skjei @ 5.35
Smith @ 4.35

That is just way to much money to tie up on defense.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
What is Smiths buyout look like? And Staal. Shattys is bad I reckon
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