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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
Pshhh. He’s a draft eligible guy whose coach trusts him out there vs CDN NHLers in crunch time protecting a 1 goal lead. Played some tenacious D, caused the turnover, & sprung himself for the breakaway. The goal was the least impressive part of that shift (but some people only care about the box score I guess).
- DrChristianTroy



And some people get boners after looking at Cosmo . Different things excite different people.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
All-in on the Lucic/Eriksson swap. If Edm tosses in a pick we are good to go.


- LordHumungous


My hatred for Eriksson is absolute, but I’d take him over Lucic any day. Especially with one less year.
93Nucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2018

May 10 @ 7:10 PM ET
My hatred for Eriksson is absolute, but I’d take him over Lucic any day. Especially with one less year.
- CubanBuffet

I agree!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 10 @ 7:11 PM ET
My hatred for Eriksson is absolute, but I’d take him over Lucic any day. Especially with one less year.
- CubanBuffet

Are you covered in your own sick even having to think about it?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 10 @ 7:18 PM ET
Friedman says Ferland is their target. Presumably to play with Elias and Brock
- CanuckDon


IMac says Myers


Friedman says Ferland




I’m shocked
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 10 @ 7:26 PM ET
IMac says Myers


Friedman says Ferland




I’m shocked

- Nucker101

They both make a lot of sense. I hope they are 4-5 year deals
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 10 @ 7:28 PM ET
Are you covered in your own sick even having to think about it?
- Marwood


I am, but it’s unrelated.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
I am, but it’s unrelated.
- CubanBuffet

I am too but it's because of Nucker's most recent post.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 10 @ 8:01 PM ET
My hatred for Eriksson is absolute, but I’d take him over Lucic any day. Especially with one less year.
- CubanBuffet

Ya it’s a terrible idea, i really hope they just cut their losses and bury LE and forget Lucic. The guy cant do it at this level anymore
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 10 @ 8:11 PM ET
IMac says Myers


Friedman says Ferland




I’m shocked

- Nucker101

Grit! Size! ❤️Concussions ❤️
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
Grit! Size! ❤️Concussions ❤️
- CanuckDon




If these guys are signed Benning should be checked for concussion, if would explain his speech.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 10 @ 8:23 PM ET
I am too but it's because of Nucker's most recent post.
- Marwood


Yup. It was the written equivalent of a finger down your throat.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 10 @ 8:25 PM ET
Ya it’s a terrible idea, i really hope they just cut their losses and bury LE and forget Lucic. The guy cant do it at this level anymore
- neem55


You have to admit, taking on a god awful contract is an effective way to get rid of a terrible one.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
You have to admit, taking on a god awful contract is an effective way to get rid of a terrible one.
- CubanBuffet

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 10 @ 8:51 PM ET
I know myself back in the summer of 2016 I said i wanted neither Lucic, LE, nor any other high priced long term free agent.

I did say that i'd prefer LE to ML, but thought both contracts would become anchors.

It's amazing than however bad LE has been (and he's been awful), he's still more highly regarded than Lucic on a team that is without much toughness.

Given all of that, despite the extra year i'd still trade LE for Lucic if the pot was sweetened enough.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 10 @ 9:01 PM ET
You have to admit, taking on a god awful contract is an effective way to get rid of a terrible one.
- CubanBuffet

Why do i have to admit that again?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 10 @ 9:11 PM ET
I know myself back in the summer of 2016 I said i wanted neither Lucic, LE, nor any other high priced long term free agent.

I did say that i'd prefer LE to ML, but thought both contracts would become anchors.

It's amazing than however bad LE has been (and he's been awful), he's still more highly regarded than Lucic on a team that is without much toughness.

Given all of that, despite the extra year i'd still trade LE for Lucic if the pot was sweetened enough.

- golfingsince


Therein lies the key.
What is sweet enough?

Without being completely unrealistic and asking for a 1st rounder or Bouchard, what would enough to entice you??
A 3rd rounder?? a 2nd ?
Prospects - Puju? Yamamoto?

How about Lucic, Skerja (2 big salaries), Puju and a 2nd
For
LE, Hutton, Goldobin and a 4th.



onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

May 10 @ 9:15 PM ET
Therein lies the key.
What is sweet enough?

Without being completely unrealistic and asking for a 1st rounder or Bouchard, what would enough to entice you??
A 3rd rounder?? a 2nd ?
Prospects - Puju? Yamamoto?

How about Lucic, Skerja (2 big salaries), Puju and a 2nd
For
LE, Hutton, Goldobin and a 4th.

- dbot

Tyler Benson would be a nice sweetener
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 10 @ 9:23 PM ET
Therein lies the key.
What is sweet enough?

Without being completely unrealistic and asking for a 1st rounder or Bouchard, what would enough to entice you??
A 3rd rounder?? a 2nd ?
Prospects - Puju? Yamamoto?

How about Lucic, Skerja (2 big salaries), Puju and a 2nd
For
LE, Hutton, Goldobin and a 4th.

- dbot


To be honest, i'm not interested in anything less than 2 2nd round picks, including the Oilers pick this year.

It's a division rival to begin, and there is no reason to take on a worse player and actual dollars unless we're properly compensated. Throw in the extra year and you see why the cost is so high.

I think LE has more trade value moving forward due to his contract that you should be paid a premium.

Does it makes sense to Edmonton? Probably not, but i'm talking purely from a Vancouver perspective.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 10 @ 9:43 PM ET
To be honest, i'm not interested in anything less than 2 2nd round picks, including the Oilers pick this year.

It's a division rival to begin, and there is no reason to take on a worse player and actual dollars unless we're properly compensated. Throw in the extra year and you see why the cost is so high.

I think LE has more trade value moving forward due to his contract that you should be paid a premium.

Does it makes sense to Edmonton? Probably not, but i'm talking purely from a Vancouver perspective.

- golfingsince


valid points.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

May 10 @ 9:56 PM ET
Ericksson over lucic forsure were gonna need the cap relief in forsure that extra year

Thay must have beem the worst fa singing year ever hey
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 10 @ 9:58 PM ET
To be honest, i'm not interested in anything less than 2 2nd round picks, including the Oilers pick this year.

It's a division rival to begin, and there is no reason to take on a worse player and actual dollars unless we're properly compensated. Throw in the extra year and you see why the cost is so high.

I think LE has more trade value moving forward due to his contract that you should be paid a premium.

Does it makes sense to Edmonton? Probably not, but i'm talking purely from a Vancouver perspective.

- golfingsince

I agree, why do it just for the sake of change, they’re both equally bad yet contribute in their own way, you only do it if it’s beneficial for us.

Roussel was our fourth leading forward in scoring, that’s an issue, draft picks can help you in a few ways to help improve your forward group. IE: Carolina acquiring Terevainen.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

May 10 @ 10:01 PM ET
I agree, why do it just for the sake of change, they’re both equally bad yet contribute in their own way, you only do it if it’s beneficial for us.

Roussel was our fourth leading forward in scoring, that’s an issue, draft picks can help you in a few ways to help improve your forward group. IE: Carolina acquiring Terevainen.

- Pacificgem


Type of thinking JB doesnt endorse sadly
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 10 @ 10:47 PM ET
Type of thinking JB doesnt endorse sadly
- Jkuzzi

The last player to play more than 100 games, and was a second round pick, for the Canucks was Mason Raymond in 2005. Before that it was Chubarov in 1998. As an organization it’s just so pathetic how they’ve drafted or used those picks for quick short term help. That’s gotta stop!

You don’t have to find an Aho every draft, it’s just so rare, but you can find countless examples of guys who contribute on that second level top six scoring. Right now we have none of that from drafting.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

May 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
The last player to play more than 100 games, and was a second round pick, for the Canucks was Mason Raymond in 2005. Before that it was Chubarov in 1998. As an organization it’s just so pathetic how they’ve drafted or used those picks for quick short term help. That’s gotta stop!

You don’t have to find an Aho every draft, it’s just so rare, but you can find countless examples of guys who contribute on that second level top six scoring. Right now we have none of that from drafting.

- Pacificgem


it seems that for years they always swung for the fences with those picks , rather than just picking the safest guy . the lack of homegrown 24-28 yr old players is just a void that is so hard to overcome.

i remember on here seeing a lot of emojis when Carlo was drafted , but man he would sure look good here now.

no matter who we draft we have to have coaches that will play the guys
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