NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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I understand the love for Elias, but, people seem to forget that, Brock had 3 more goals and 1 less point, playing on Bo's line, in 7 less games.
This team finally has some options, on who to put in the top 2 lines, instead of the 3 top 6 players. - Reubenkincade
Yes looks like at least 8 guys are battling for top 6 roles. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Basil was a nice pick and should be available to the team, when they are about to be somewhat significant.
Although they didn't draft any of the players I had wanted, they still had a pretty strong draft. IMO - Reubenkincade
I had Podz at 7 behind Boldy but i'm okay with that because they were equal players IMO.I think JB made the better decision.
I kind of think back to what Brackett said when he was talking about Costmar and how he wasn't great in a few tournaments but what they saw of him in November and if he could return to that. Steal of a 7th rounder then. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I understand the love for Elias, but, people seem to forget that, Brock had 3 more goals and 1 less point, playing on Bo's line, in 7 less games.
This team finally has some options, on who to put in the top 2 lines, instead of the 3 top 6 players. - Reubenkincade
Boeser also had 8 more power play points than the previous season. His ppg did drop from .89 to .81
Less points because he isn't the only shooter. He's going to have to adapt a bit playing with Petey.
I like Horvat though. He's still improving every year and has never had the same linemate. Maybe this year with a full season of Pearson he can improve even more. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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I understand the love for Elias, but, people seem to forget that, Brock had 3 more goals and 1 less point, playing on Bo's line, in 7 less games.
This team finally has some options, on who to put in the top 2 lines, instead of the 3 top 6 players. - Reubenkincade
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Brock 69 games 26 goals 30 assists - 56 pts
Petey 71 games 28 goals 38 assists - 66 pts
Were you referring to the year Brock played without Peterson?
Options we have for sure. I just think Miller will create more for Pettersson than Brock will especially on zone entires. |
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I understand the love for Elias, but, people seem to forget that, Brock had 3 more goals and 1 less point, playing on Bo's line, in 7 less games.
This team finally has some options, on who to put in the top 2 lines, instead of the 3 top 6 players. - Reubenkincade
Brock played some games with Vanek and Gagner that season - while Bo broke his foot. He had 23 Pts on the PP, 19 pts with Bo, 10 with Vanek/Gags and the rest was spread out - lots of line juggling. I think If he stays healthy, playing with more skilled guys - he can hit 30+ goals and 70pts. |
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NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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Boeser also had 8 more power play points than the previous season. His ppg did drop from .89 to .81
Less points because he isn't the only shooter. He's going to have to adapt a bit playing with Petey.
I like Horvat though. He's still improving every year and has never had the same linemate. Maybe this year with a full season of Pearson he can improve even more. - manvanfan
Yes Horvat is less talked about for point production because he's not a traditional set up center. But he seems to be having a break out year every year playing often with questionable line-mates. This season there will actually be quality competition to be on his line. That alone should improve his chances of doing better. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Yes Horvat is less talked about for point production because he's not a traditional set up center. But he seems to be having a break out year every year playing often with questionable line-mates. This season there will actually be quality competition to be on his line. That alone should improve his chances of doing better. - NuckUp
Team has many more 20 goal scorers than previous years without too many true playmakers like Henrik or Backstrom type. A good mix of ability to set up and shoot though. Scoring by committee hopefully. |
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NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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Team has many more 20 goal scorers than previous years without too many true playmakers like Henrik or Backstrom type. A good mix of ability to set up and shoot though. Scoring by committee hopefully. - manvanfan
With more finishers maybe guys like Sven and/or Goldy could be useful to create and set them up. The scoring by committee will be aided by a better passing D. Where Myers and Hughes will add to what only Edler did offensively in a better more creative way. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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With more finishers maybe guys like Sven and/or Goldy could be useful to create and set them up. The scoring by committee will be aided by a better passing D. Where Myers and Hughes will add to what only Edler did offensively in a better more creative way. - NuckUp
If Sven and Goldy can stay healthy the former and get out of the doghouse the latter they could be options in the top 6 and push someone else down to 3rd line and instead of having two scoring two checking lines they could have one check and 3 scoring lines.
You are right though, a better more, active defence will be where the assists come from. Myers and Benn aren't massive upgrades in the scoring department but they are better at scoring and overall games than what they are replacing. |
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NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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If Sven and Goldy can stay healthy the former and get out of the doghouse the latter they could be options in the top 6 and push someone else down to 3rd line and instead of having two scoring two checking lines they could have one check and 3 scoring lines.
You are right though, a better more, active defence will be where the assists come from. Myers and Benn aren't massive upgrades in the scoring department but they are better at scoring and overall games than what they are replacing. - manvanfan
I think Green will be doing a lot of shuffling in the beginning. If he wanted 3 scoring and 1 checking line Green could deploy the following based on familiarity:
Goldy Petey BB - if in Goldy is most productive here and compliments creativity
Sven Bo Pearson - Two wingers that we know mesh with Bo
Ferland Miller JV - the new guys can bond and mentor JV to drive the net
Lievo Beagle Sutter - check and maybe Josh pops one in from a takeaway
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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I think Green will be doing a lot of shuffling in the beginning. If he wanted 3 scoring and 1 checking line Green could deploy the following based on familiarity:
Goldy Petey BB - if in Goldy is most productive here and compliments creativity
Sven Bo Pearson - Two wingers that we know mesh with Bo
Ferland Miller JV - the new guys can bond and mentor JV to drive the net
Lievo Beagle Sutter - check and maybe Josh pops one in from a takeaway - NuckUp
Ferland/Miller - EP- Boes
Pearson - Bo - Miller/Ferland
Sven - Sutter - JV
whoever earns it(roussell eventualy) - Beagle - Leivo
The 3rd line would be a pseudo checking/scoring as each person is capable of putting up 15-20 goals and are defensively responsible, JV and Sutter forcheck and backcheck hard(though JV does take a shift sometimes) |
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NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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Ferland/Miller - EP- Boes
Pearson - Bo - Miller/Ferland
Sven - Sutter - JV
whoever earns it(roussell eventualy) - Beagle - Leivo
The 3rd line would be a pseudo checking/scoring as each person is capable of putting up 15-20 goals and are defensively responsible, JV and Sutter forcheck and backcheck hard(though JV does take a shift sometimes) - Retinalz
Yeah that's what's more expected but any line with Sutter in the middle is going to be mostly checking. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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I had Podz at 7 behind Boldy but i'm okay with that because they were equal players IMO.I think JB made the better decision.
I kind of think back to what Brackett said when he was talking about Costmar and how he wasn't great in a few tournaments but what they saw of him in November and if he could return to that. Steal of a 7th rounder then. - manvanfan
I'm over it, but was choked with the pick. Happy to be wrong about him. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Team has many more 20 goal scorers than previous years without too many true playmakers like Henrik or Backstrom type. A good mix of ability to set up and shoot though. Scoring by committee hopefully. - manvanfan
Let's see how the team chemistry develops. Looks good on paper. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I think Green will be doing a lot of shuffling in the beginning. If he wanted 3 scoring and 1 checking line Green could deploy the following based on familiarity:
Goldy Petey BB - if in Goldy is most productive here and compliments creativity
Sven Bo Pearson - Two wingers that we know mesh with Bo
Ferland Miller JV - the new guys can bond and mentor JV to drive the net
Lievo Beagle Sutter - check and maybe Josh pops one in from a takeaway - NuckUp
Certainly if they wanted to that line up would make the most sense.
That 1st line is soft and "cute" as a brand new puppy adding Goldy to it. I could see a bit of a rotation of the first line LW depending on how games go though. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Let's see how the team chemistry develops. Looks good on paper. - VanHockeyGuy
Looks much more promising that's for sure.
This is year 6 of JB's tenure and kind of the start of my rebuild is not being a rebuild anymore.
I always believed in a 2 years to make it to the bottom. 2 years at the bottom. 2 years moving from the bottom as my "rebuild"
I think we are at that point where we have a stronger roster with less holes. For it to continue now, this is where the "other" prospects the none 1st round picks need to be better. The players like Lind, Lockwood, Rathbone, Woo, Madden need to progress to quality NHL talent to push others other over the course of the next year or two out and be traded. Or even using them to make a trade for a better player for a cup run. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Ferland/Miller - EP- Boes
Pearson - Bo - Miller/Ferland
Sven - Sutter - JV
whoever earns it(roussell eventualy) - Beagle - Leivo
The 3rd line would be a pseudo checking/scoring as each person is capable of putting up 15-20 goals and are defensively responsible, JV and Sutter forcheck and backcheck hard(though JV does take a shift sometimes) - Retinalz
Sutter’s not capable of centering a line that produces two 15+ goal scorers. I’d be surprised if he could even get 1 winger to do it.
If he’s centering a line, that line’s offense is capped.
I’d rather see Sutter and Beagle together on a shutdown line |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Sutter’s not capable of centering a line that produces two 15+ goal scorers. I’d be surprised if he could even get 1 winger to do it.
If he’s centering a line, that line’s offense is capped.
I’d rather see Sutter and Beagle together on a shutdown line - Nucker101
Ferland/Miller - EP- Boes
Pearson - Bo - Miller/Ferland
Sven - Gaudette - JV
Sutter - Beagle - Leivo
better? |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Ferland/Miller - EP- Boes
Pearson - Bo - Miller/Ferland
Sven - Gaudette - JV
Sutter - Beagle - Leivo
better? - Retinalz
Yes |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Brock played some games with Vanek and Gagner that season - while Bo broke his foot. He had 23 Pts on the PP, 19 pts with Bo, 10 with Vanek/Gags and the rest was spread out - lots of line juggling. I think If he stays healthy, playing with more skilled guys - he can hit 30+ goals and 70pts. - Brooks_Light
He's got lots of room for growth |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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He's got lots of room for growth - neem55
mmmmm yes he does |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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There was no robbing of Zegras. JB said if Podz wasn't there they would have traded down.
Podz>Zegs - manvanfan
Benning said he inquired about trading down for Zegras and the price was a 2nd. So yes, you are right about that but they had a massive boner for Zegras and were pretty clear about it.
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