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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
Roussel doesn’t belong in the top six, he’s just an energy winger with limited offensive talent.
- Pacificgem


Wow. You think LE is more of a top 6 winger if you need to disagree with the choice I feel is better... fair enough.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 21 @ 2:56 PM ET
Roussel doesn’t belong in the top six, he’s just an energy winger with limited offensive talent.
- Pacificgem

Other than Bergeron Marchand Pastrnak what line is fully loaded to back your claim?
Imo the 3rd wheel is what works not what looks good on paper...eg Burrows
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 21 @ 2:56 PM ET
I wonder if it’s his decision alone? To keep giving Eriksson a shot.
- Pacificgem


Fair enough. I definitely wouldnt rule that out.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 2:56 PM ET
Wow. You think LE is more of a top 6 winger if you need to disagree with the choice I feel is better... fair enough.
- boonerbuck

When did I ever mention Eriksson

Roussel belongs in the bottom six and Eriksson belongs in Sweden.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
I agree, trades are mediocre at best. UFA signings poor to just ok. That’s why I don’t think he’s the guy to continue building going forward, he’s not very good at filling in the holes to complement the core, other than Miller, who’s worked out really well. But he cost Benning a first round pick on a team still building.

By contending I mean not just making the playoffs but actually having a legitimate chance to win a Cup. I don’t subscribe to the notion if you get in you have a good chance. Sure you have a chance if you squeak in but not a realistic one.

- Pacificgem

I'm just more realistic than you are.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
Wow. You think LE is more of a top 6 winger if you need to disagree with the choice I feel is better... fair enough.
- boonerbuck


I love Roussel, but neither should be top 6 players. But you're right, Roussel is a much better choice than LE but I'm also a fan of keeping Roussel - Gaudette - Virtanen intact since that line is the only one that's shown life recently outside of EP's line.


I wish the team would just sack up and waive LE already and call up a more skilled player to give the top 6 more skill instead of another dump and chase player.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
I'm just more realistic than you are.
- manvanfan

I do like to dream big
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 2:59 PM ET
/Cam Robinson/
@Hockey_Robinson
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9m
Vasily Podkolzin with 3 assists in today’s WJHC tune up game against Kazakhstan.

The line of Podkolzin, Marchenko and Morozov will be ferocious at the main event.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 21 @ 3:00 PM ET
So - Eriksson's back in, Leivo's out for a couple of months, and we probably won't see Sutter again until after Christmas.

Penguins are on a back-to-back and have a ton of injuries, but are also on a four-game winning streak.

Tonight's game should be interesting!

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...s-come-to-town/194/103345
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 21 @ 3:00 PM ET
When did I ever mention Eriksson

Roussel belongs in the bottom six and Eriksson belongs in Sweden.

- Pacificgem


It's easy to make that mistake after you just disagreed with me suggesting Roussel instead of LE.


Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:00 PM ET
I love Roussel, but neither should be top 6 players. But you're right, Roussel is a much better choice than LE but I'm also a fan of keeping Roussel - Gaudette - Virtanen intact since that line is the only one that's shown life recently outside of EP's line.


I wish the team would just sack up and waive LE already and call up a more skilled player to give the top 6 more skill instead of another dump and chase player.

- Nucker101

Right now Virtanen deserves to be in the top six before any of those plugs, he back back the D up with his speed and contribute more offensively than any other bottom six winger we have.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:01 PM ET
I love Roussel, but neither should be top 6 players. But you're right, Roussel is a much better choice than LE but I'm also a fan of keeping Roussel - Gaudette - Virtanen intact since that line is the only one that's shown life recently outside of EP's line.


I wish the team would just sack up and waive LE already and call up a more skilled player to give the top 6 more skill instead of another dump and chase player.

- Nucker101


Sutter will be back just after Xmas break Ferland is back skating.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 21 @ 3:01 PM ET
I do like to dream big
- Pacificgem

You have always had much much larger dreams than me.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:02 PM ET
It's easy to make that mistake after you just disagreed with me suggesting Roussel instead of LE.



- boonerbuck

I never said anything about Eriksson over Roussel, I simply stated Roussel doesn’t belong in the top six. But you keep pushing your narrative lol.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:02 PM ET
You have always had much much larger dreams than me.
- manvanfan

I’ve been lucky enough to actually realize some of them
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
Fair enough. I definitely wouldnt rule that out.
- boonerbuck


Why? The whole hockey world knows LE sucks, why would Benning ask Green to play him on the top line? He's not going to have trade value or and no fans will suddenly be tricked into thinking that he wasn't that bad of a signing just because he puts up a few points playing with an elite center. There's nothing to gain unless the plan is to tank.


People need to let go of the LE trade pipedream, it's not happening unless Benning is willing to attach a good prospect or high pick along with him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
Right now Virtanen deserves to be in the top six before any of those plugs, he back back the D up with his speed and contribute more offensively than any other bottom six winger we have.
- Pacificgem



Why break up Jake Gauds and Roussel. They have been like the second line ovr Bo's line.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
New blog is up btw.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
I’ve been lucky enough to actually realize some of them
- Pacificgem


Yeah but having 5 hotdogs in one intermission isn't a dream most others think of.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
Right now Virtanen deserves to be in the top six before any of those plugs, he back back the D up with his speed and contribute more offensively than any other bottom six winger we have.
- Pacificgem


I'd rather see that line just kept together and given more 5v5 minutes than Bo's line. And before someone brings up the face-off percentages, the majority of shifts are on the fly so it can be done without tanking the team's face-off percentages.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
Why break up Jake Gauds and Roussel. They have been like the second line ovr Bo's line.
- VANTEL

Because the top six is more important than the bottom six when it comes to winning games.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
Yeah but having 5 hotdogs in one intermission isn't a dream most others think of.
- VANTEL

three, any more than that is just greed
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:06 PM ET
Because the top six is more important than the bottom six when it comes to winning games.
- Pacificgem


I will answer in new blog
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 21 @ 3:07 PM ET
I love Roussel, but neither should be top 6 players. But you're right, Roussel is a much better choice than LE but I'm also a fan of keeping Roussel - Gaudette - Virtanen intact since that line is the only one that's shown life recently outside of EP's line.


I wish the team would just sack up and waive LE already and call up a more skilled player to give the top 6 more skill instead of another dump and chase player.

- Nucker101


I agree mostly but Canucks Army the other day analyzed the 3rd line and in spite of getting goals lately, they have had a negative effect statistically. Their defensive coverage, give aways and zone times have been horrid and it cancels out those goals they got in the losing causes. Gaudette's play without the puck and his face offs are very weak. He's a work in progress I know but the idea that his line is clicking so don't break it up is based on a half story.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 21 @ 3:08 PM ET
Sutter will be back just after Xmas break Ferland is back skating.
- VANTEL



Sutter is damaged goods at this point, a dude with that many soft tissue/muscle injuries is not going to age well and skating is one of his main strengths. I don't think it's a coincidence that Jake looks better with Gaudette than he did with Sutter. A Sutter-Beagle-Motte 4th line is meh since both Beagle and Sutter look slower this year, I guess they'll be Green's PK specialists.

I'd be very happy too see Ferland back at some point, I just hope he takes his time, having him sit out a few extra weeks is worth the price if it helps him stay healthier long-term.
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