Interesting wrinkle:

If Leafs pick is top 10, canes get no 1st rounder this year and instead have 2 next season

Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
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25m

Chris Kreider: 20-21 $2M + $8M SB ($10M total), 21-22 $3.5M + $6M SB ($9.5M total), 22-23 $1M + $5M SB ($6M total), 23-24 $4M + $2M SB ($6M total), 24-25 $5M, 25-26 $4M, 26-27 $4M + $1M ($5M total) No Move 20-21-22-23-24, no trade 24-25-26-27
@NYRangers
- jimbro83

This should give the Rangers options if they need to get out of the deal the last year or so of it

Interesting wrinkle:

If Leafs pick is top 10, canes get no 1st rounder this year and instead have 2 next season
- BINGO!

how do see the Canes with the expansion draft at this point?

think they would protect Jake Bean over Skjei and Gardiner?

This should give the Rangers options if they need to get out of the deal the last year or so of it
- TPC

and if there is another expansion draft from 2024-2026 Rangers won't be forced to protect him

Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
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25m

Chris Kreider: 20-21 $2M + $8M SB ($10M total), 21-22 $3.5M + $6M SB ($9.5M total), 22-23 $1M + $5M SB ($6M total), 23-24 $4M + $2M SB ($6M total), 24-25 $5M, 25-26 $4M, 26-27 $4M + $1M ($5M total) No Move 20-21-22-23-24, no trade 24-25-26-27
@NYRangers
- jimbro83

About half the deal in signing bonuses. $31.5 million of the $45.5 million the first four years of the contract. I would have preferred an NMC only the first three rather than the first five years and no NTC at all on back end. But NY still has options available in case they need to get out of the contract.

About half the deal in signing bonuses. $31.5 million of the $45.5 million the first four years of the contract. I would have preferred an NMC only the first three rather than the first five years and no NTC at all on back end. But NY still has options available in case they need to get out of the contract.
- airjan23

We will all hope that Kreider lives up to the entirety of the contract, but I just wonder how much of this contract was done thinking the next CBA might give teams another compliance buyout option. Think it's a stretch to say there is no risk and that's why they extended CK, but you just have to wonder if it's in the back of their heads.

About half the deal in signing bonuses. $31.5 million of the $45.5 million the first four years of the contract. I would have preferred an NMC only the first three rather than the first five years and no NTC at all on back end. But NY still has options available in case they need to get out of the contract.
- airjan23

NOTE: This is an ACADEMIC discussion. I am not trying to get rid of a guy that just signed.

Don't the signing bonuses make any buyout almost impossible? I think that's what I remember from ROR's contract. I guess the flipside is that he's tradable based on actual money owed, but then the NTC could be a problem depending on how many teams there are.

We will all hope that Kreider lives up to the entirety of the contract, but I just wonder how much of this contract was done thinking the next CBA might give teams another compliance buyout option. Think it's a stretch to say there is no risk and that's why they extended CK, but you just have to wonder if it's in the back of their heads.
- 2sticks1puck

I think it's more likely that they believe the cap will be going up significantly in the coming years and at that point 6.5 mil won't be considered that high anymore

how do see the Canes with the expansion draft at this point?

think they would protect Jake Bean over Skjei and Gardiner?
- jimbro83

Probably. Though I think they'd rather trade one of them because they'll need the cap space (that's still so weird to say)

We will all hope that Kreider lives up to the entirety of the contract, but I just wonder how much of this contract was done thinking the next CBA might give teams another compliance buyout option. Think it's a stretch to say there is no risk and that's why they extended CK, but you just have to wonder if it's in the back of their heads.
- 2sticks1puck

Isn't the next CBA up after next season? If there plan was always to use a potential buyout on him it would have just made way more sense to trade him when his value was at its highest.

We will all hope that Kreider lives up to the entirety of the contract, but I just wonder how much of this contract was done thinking the next CBA might give teams another compliance buyout option. Think it's a stretch to say there is no risk and that's why they extended CK, but you just have to wonder if it's in the back of their heads.
- 2sticks1puck

Friedman talked about that on the radio a few weeks back. No buyout expected in new CBA, BUT, due to the new TV contract, the cap is expected to jump to $90 million or higher in 2021-2022 (will only go up slightly this summer). Thus, teams will have plenty of room even with bad contracts.

Friedman talked about that on the radio a few weeks back. No buyout expected in new CBA, BUT, due to the new TV contract, the cap is expected to jump to $90 million or higher in 2021-2022 (will only go up slightly this summer). Thus, teams will have plenty of room even with bad contracts.
- WineryDog

Thats perfect timing for Zib's new 9 million a year contract

Isn't the next CBA up after next season? If there plan was always to use a potential buyout on him it would have just made way more sense to trade him when his value was at its highest.
- TPC

It was extended three more seasons, so we still have 2 years left.

Friedman talked about that on the radio a few weeks back. No buyout expected in new CBA, BUT, due to the new TV contract, the cap is expected to jump to $90 million or higher in 2021-2022 (will only go up slightly this summer). Thus, teams will have plenty of room even with bad contracts.
- WineryDog

yeah, this is what I have been hearing too

Man can we not deal with another 10:30am to 11am time frame like we had yesterday? I can't remember the last time I was so stressed with the Rangers. Literally had no clue what was going on, speculations were running wild

Rangers just have to be careful they don't make the same mistake with Lindgren that they did with Skjei. A big reason why he was so good his rookie year is he was able to play behind players like McDonagh on the left side. Once the purge happened he became the defacto number 1 d man on the left side and that just isn't his game. Now with Skjei gone and only Staal and Smith behind him, Rangers are going to be putting a lot of pressure on Lindgren as a rookie on the left side. I might strongly consider giving someone like ADA a look on the opposite side.

This team is clearly showing the rebuild is behind them. They need to find an legit replacement on the left side in the summer. If they want to be considered a contender for a playoff spot they can't have Staal and Smith being 2/3rds of the left side next season.
- TPC

Shut your face

and if there is another expansion draft from 2024-2026 Rangers won't be forced to protect him
- jimbro83

I hope not, add one more team and be done.

Man can we not deal with another 10:30am to 11am time frame like we had yesterday? I can't remember the last time I was so stressed with the Rangers. Literally had no clue what was going on, speculations were running wild
- TPC

the very first guy on twitter who mentioned the car accident thing was absolutely roasted on twitter, people called him an ass clown, tearing him to shreds for making poop up

when the smoke had cleared the NYR had made some definitive positions going fwd.

1.Re- Build is over
2. Skjei after NOT finding it w/Troubs DONE,A dA may be a great upgrade for him & team & open up Trouba ?didnt understand burning 2 moves on Howden & Gauthier to be eligible for AHL ? maybe Gauthier ?Hiajk -Rykov ? nows the time to make a promotion ,not use a retread like Smith & throw the dice ,okSMith maybe for tonite as to NOT start a new guy with fish hds hunting us at home .
Skjei was a great trade in many ways( cap & future )liked him alot ,sorry
3.HanK? hope he gets into the P O fray , deserves to finish now with shesty down,next yr is a foregone conclusion as part of the necessary money moves to get thru 1 mor cap close season....
4. CAP issues ? isnt it amazing how Pitts G m houdini's it & stocks his team for a great chance at a run & who knows ,we have to do it for 1 more season & then we have a complete control of the cap

yeah, this is what I have been hearing too
- jimbro83

If JD can be all Savvy Jack and lock up all the RFA's before the new cap is announced, we could be absolutely Golden!

If JD can be all Savvy Jack and lock up all the RFA's before the new cap is announced, we could be absolutely Golden!
- WineryDog

unless they elect arbitration, I get the feeling that this summer will be a long drawn out negotiation with both deAngelo and Strome

the very first guy on twitter who mentioned the car accident thing was absolutely roasted on twitter, people called him an ass clown, tearing him to shreds for making poop up
- jimbro83

It's like the Untouchables: Who would claim to be that, that is not? (Said with Sean Connery accent).

It's like the Untouchables: Who would claim to be that, that is not? (Said with Sean Connery accent).
- WineryDog

Officer with Treasury dept

unless they elect arbitration, I get the feeling that this summer will be a long drawn out negotation with both deAngelo and Strome
- jimbro83

I should have been more clear. My hope is they do deals now and not wait until summer. Same next year with Buch, Shesty, Lindgren and Chytil.

I should have been more clear. My hope is they do deals now and not wait until summer. Same next year with Buch, Shesty, Lindgren and Chytil.
- WineryDog

yeah, certainly hope so, but I don't forsee Tony D's negotiations being easy

they forced him to play for peanuts this year