jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Sure, especially if we add one of Byfield/Stutzle/Rossi/Lundell.
We do need a veteran presence down the middle though to take the load off everyone - Pegullaville
For now, that’s Eichel & Larsson playing a heavy defensive role should we keep him around
And presumably,
a guy that can bridge the 2C position
Point is...
Bc we have cheap talent coming at Center,
it motivates spending $$$ on the wings
There’s more than 1 way to build a contender
And every contender has bad contracts
Every GM makes mistakes |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Sure, especially if we add one of Byfield/Stutzle/Rossi/Lundell.
We do need a veteran presence down the middle though to take the load off everyone - Pegullaville
I would look to add 2 vet centers, not one, to make things easier on the young guys, including Eichel.
Bonino and Strome, for example. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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The "Reinhart is a good RW for Jack and will put up 60+ on his wing for the next 7 seasons" camp is literally just as bad as the "Skinner's contract sucks" camp.
Reinhart plays with Eichel basically joined at the hip and STILL CANNOT CRACK A .PPG.
Meanwhile, Skinner puts up 40 goals the second he plays with Eichel, gets buried the next year playing with Larsson, Sobotka, Frolik and the glorified AHL crew, and people want to run him out of town.
How do you think Skinner feels while that lame-d!ck Reinhart coasts on Jack's RW while he signed a contract to PLAY AND SCORE GOALS WITH ONE OF THE TOP-10 CENTERS IN THE NHL and is basically not allowed to because "he doesn't practice hard" which is such honest to goodness bull-sh!t, I would have fired Botteril and Freddy the second this sh!t splattered on the floor.
The Reinhart defenders are honestly worse than the Skinner critics. It's absolutely laughable people defend Reinhart the way they do - Skinner is a proven 30-goal scoring winger and he did that playing with mediocre centers his whole career and turns into a 40-goal scorer when playing with actual talent, yet Reinhart couldn't even get past his 9-game tryout in his first season, and can hardly score 20 a year on Eichel's wing, absolutely 100% cannot drive his own line, sucks at faceoffs, has the brains but not the athleticism...
Yet he deserves 8 million dollars for doing less than or equal to what Skinner did in terms of overall points...
We don't deserve nice things, this fanbase. - BeadyEyedDouche
so if skinner gets to play with eichel next season and pop 40 goals and if reinhart gets 82 points on the other wing
will any of you f@ckers let these things go
short answer is no
long answer is no |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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trade him for 2 3rd liners and a 7th d man then and watch tage struggle to get 40 points with him in the fall - homiedclown
Tage Thompson blows
I've said I think Reinhart is a good player.
And for what it's worth, I said I'm trading Reinhart, Ristolainen and this year's 1st for Laine.
Gotta spend money to make money. |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Some big news right away as #Sabres take the ice here in Winnipeg: Victor Olofsson AND Linus Ullmark are here and skating (there are 3 goalies on the ice). |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Tage Thompson blows
I've said I think Reinhart is a good player.
And for what it's worth, I said I'm trading Reinhart, Ristolainen and this year's 1st for Laine.
Gotta spend money to make money. - BeadyEyedDouche
That feels like a very large overpayment. |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I never said sam is great, first of all
2nd pairing dmen on this team - Montour, Risto, Miller and Joker
Yeah, reinhart gets you a guy like that plus a prospect.
He doesn't get you a better #1RW or a #2C by himself - jcragcrumple
A+
Great post
His stats get you a 1rw though right? |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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so if skinner gets to play with eichel next season and pop 40 goals and if reinhart gets 82 points on the other wing
will any of you f@ckers let these things go
short answer is no
long answer is no - homiedclown
I'll know season after next |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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We need that extra $2M. Every dollar counts - Pegullaville
It does, kinda
There’s teams out there who compete at the same level as others spending less
And you’re just gonna have to accept that the is
(& will continue to be) a bit of a Buff-a-tax
We aren’t Tampa... yet 😁 |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Okay if people now want Sam to walk .......
What “good” top 6 forward is replacing Sam?
Our gm can’t even get a 2C via trade. So adding another top 6 right winger to that list would be a bad idea - Sabretooth9
scott wilson is in the weight room |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Or a Winger that can drive a line. - Buff36
good luck
there is about 6 or 7 of them in the nhl |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Thinking a line would produce more shots with a better player added to it has MUCH more validity than saying 50 shots would just transfer from 1 player to another - jdfitz77
You ignored basically the entirety of my point.
That said, no, shots are down across the board for Sabres established top-6 forwards due to Krueger instituting a more sound defensive structure. More shots wouldn't just appear from thin air. Skinner would just be taking some of Eichel's.
Since you ignored the crux of my point last time, I'll post it again:
If you want to solve a chronic scoring problem, then the answer is to find multiple lines that can score. If you want to find multiple lines that can score, you need to find a 2C and a 3C.
If you think 17 point Larry is a 3C, have at it |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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so if skinner gets to play with eichel next season and pop 40 goals and if reinhart gets 82 points on the other wing
will any of you f@ckers let these things go
short answer is no
long answer is no - homiedclown
Post of the day sir |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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And for what it's worth, I said I'm trading Reinhart, Ristolainen and this year's 1st for Laine.
. - BeadyEyedDouche
reinhart is outscoring laine the last 2 years |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I'll know season after next - BeadyEyedDouche
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Tage Thompson blows
I've said I think Reinhart is a good player.
And for what it's worth, I said I'm trading Reinhart, Ristolainen and this year's 1st for Laine.
Gotta spend money to make money. - BeadyEyedDouche
Try Reinhart and Risto only, if you have to deal this year's first then others think less of Reinhart then I think they would and would really put a damper on his fans here. I wouldn't include this year's first especially if it is a lottery pick in this year's supposedly strong draft. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Oh my god...
Why can't our elite, all-star center captain this team to an 8th place finish in the final standings?
See how that works? - BeadyEyedDouche
Only Panarin has more points then his closest teammate then Eichel has this year between himself and Reinhart.
You just spent two pages talking about the ineffectiveness of Olofsson on the LW yet Eichel is just dominating up until his recent injury troubles.
We have a $9M winger that is going to need a $7M dollar Center to produce and cannot lift the play of a Mojo to at least respectable levels. See the issue ? |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Post of the day sir - jdfitz77
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BeadyEyedDouche
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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That feels like a very large overpayment. - kingcong39
When are you guys going to realize you have to do this right now if you're the Buffalo Sabres?
Eichel is damn near 25.
We can't wait another 6 years for a player to develop like Olofsson.
We need proven scoring help NOW. Not complimentary players.
I think Reinhart/Ristolainen/2020 1st is pretty fair value for a guy who has the potential to score 50+ goals and is only 21 still.
It helps both teams - Winnipeg gets a young player to draft and develop, a defensemen to replace Trouba/Bufuglien/Myers who is a 40 point, power-play specialist, and a complimentary, 60-point RW, they need to sustain their current "success" of making the playoffs regularly and get a couple of guys in their prime to help with that.
We get a 21-year old actual "sniper" who helps us now, instead of waiting 3+ years for a player to develop from this year's draft.
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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For now, that’s Eichel & Larsson playing a heavy defensive role should we keep him around
And presumably,
a guy that can bridge the 2C position
Point is...
Bc we have cheap talent coming at Center,
it motivates spending $$$ on the wings
There’s more than 1 way to build a contender
And every contender has bad contracts
Every GM makes mistakes - jdfitz77
Larry has been the 2nd most important Sabres forward this year. He has had more impact on the teams success then Skinner has for 1/3 of the salary. |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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reinhart is outscoring laine the last 2 years - homiedclown
Tell me what elite center Laine plays with?
Laine has rounded out his game this season. He's almost at a .ppg and has more assists than goals. And still has the potential to be a 50-goal guy at some point. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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You ignored basically the entirety of my point.
That said, no, shots are down across the board for Sabres established top-6 forwards due to Krueger instituting a more sound defensive structure. More shots wouldn't just appear from thin air. Skinner would just be taking some of Eichel's.
Since you ignored the crux of my point last time, I'll post it again:
If you want to solve a chronic scoring problem, then the answer is to find multiple lines that can score. If you want to find multiple lines that can score, you need to find a 2C and a 3C.
If you think 17 point Larry is a 3C, have at it - jcragcrumple
Yes, u need to find a 2C & a 3C
No, it’s not wrong to think that even in Kruger’s system, that a Skinner upgrade over Olofsson would lead to more shots from that line
U used 50 shots as your benchmark
That would be less than 1 extra shot a game with Skinner in line1
It’s not thinking they’d come out of thin air
It’s thinking line1 would be better if a better player was on it
Sorry to be logical
I guess that’s not your strong suit |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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so if skinner gets to play with eichel next season and pop 40 goals and if reinhart gets 82 points on the other wing
will any of you f@ckers let these things go
short answer is no
long answer is no - homiedclown
When Skinner scores 40 and Reinhart gets 82 points with a rookie/sophomore Dylan Cozens down the middle I’ll shut up. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Tell me what elite center Laine plays with?
Laine has rounded out his game this season. He's almost at a .ppg and has more assists than goals. And still has the potential to be a 50-goal guy at some point. - BeadyEyedDouche
Scheifele, 2 less points as jack over the last 2 years
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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When Skinner scores 40 and Reinhart gets 82 points with a rookie/sophomore Dylan Cozens down the middle I’ll shut up. - Pegullaville
fake news |
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