but I was told krueger is a great coach today on this board
- homiedclown

By a Leafs fan.

Where did I imply that risto asking for a trade equates to being shopped?

Lockport for sure
- Boss34

well you have posted 1,300 times that risto asked for a trade, when people "say" botts is shopping risto


nothing more, nothing less


just a response to your post

Some posters think risto is a very bad hockey player and the Sabres will never win with him in a Sabres uniform.

They feel like Botterill should share their opinions and of course he would be offered as trade bait.

I like risto. Like what he said the other day in regards to playing for the city ect. Bs or. Not
- Boss34

It's really a moot point now.

There was this 3 year (ish) window where the sabres had a real chance to be smarter than everyone else. Statistically, Risto was really bad. Eye test showed that at best he was a very flawed player. Yet he had a perception around the league as a great young player on a team friendly deal. For that period of time a trade could have been made that would have brought in talent this organization desperately needed.

The thing is, eventually the league caught up. Go into another team's board and suggest any trade with Risto in it. No one wants him. So now you might as well keep him as an average player on your below average team.

But two years ago, a real GM could have made that opportunity into something.

apples and oranges

barkov has 2 years left then he walks

eichel has 6 years left on his deal


and barkov was much better last season
jack took a huge step this season, up til recent slump might be the most improved player in the entire NHL this season
- homiedclown

Most improved player in the nhl?
Most raiders fans would agree.

apples and oranges

barkov has 2 years left then he walks

eichel has 6 years left on his deal


and barkov was much better last season
jack took a huge step this season, up til recent slump might be the most improved player in the entire NHL this season
- homiedclown

Most improved player in the nhl?
Most raiders fans would agree.

thank you for your service

you have been loyal and purchased decent seats for many years, here is your 2020-21 season ticket prices

sorry we had to raise them 20%


we can always move you to the cheap seats in the back of the arena
- homiedclown

The slogan should be see Eichel shoot twice, you pay twice

Most improved player in the nhl?
Most raiders fans would agree.
- Boss34

eichel's 2 way game is miles ahead of last season


last season he was a floating center that was in the 15-8 range for best centers


now you can easily make a claim he is a top 3 center in the nhl


shame it's another wasted year

Why not go for the kill shot and see what it would take to get both Barkov and Hub's

spector posts what other people are saying and gives them credit

nothing more, nothing less



not sure how this turned into a spector bash
- homiedclown

I'm saying I doubt Florida trades Barkov.

It's not that I hate Spector, it's that his quotes are meaningless. Spector quotes someone suggesting maybe if this season doesn't go well the owner might want to do something and maybe that something could include a list of players and one of those players is Barkov. Its him reposting pure speculation.

Now suddenly people think they can package Okposo and Mittelstadt and some future firsts for one of the best centers in the league.

And every one of those coaches have been fired except for Krueger. If you're a coach that insists on playing Ristolainen more than any other defenseman, it means you're not a very good coach.
- buffalofan19

Risto continues to be the Sabres best option for big minutes on defense.

Thats why coaches continue to play him.

That may also say something about the lack of talent surrounding risto.

He has been the best option - thus the #1 defenseman

Risto continues to be the Sabres best option for big minutes on defense.

Thats why coaches continue to play him.

That may also say something about the lack of talent surrounding risto.

He has been the best option - thus the #1 defenseman
- Boss34

doesn't bold well for montour

Risto continues to be the Sabres best option for big minutes on defense.

Thats why coaches continue to play him.

That may also say something about the lack of talent surrounding risto.

He has been the best option - thus the #1 defenseman
- Boss34

The win column begs to differ. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Giving Ristolainen the biggest minutes proves this in spades.

WE'RE GETTING THERE

(in all seriousness - after this season we're at 9. and this team seems like its more than 2 years away...from making the playoffs, not even going anywhere).

All Time Longest Playoff Droughts

Florida Panthers 1999–00 2011–12 10 seasons
Edmonton Oilers 2005–06 2016–17 10 seasons
Colorado Rockies/NJ Dev 1977–78 1987–88 9 seasons
Carolina Hurricanes 2008–09 2018–19 9 seasons
California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons 1969–70 never (merger of franchise after 1977–78) 8 seasons
Boston Bruins 1958–59 1967–68 8 seasons
Washington Capitals 1974–75 1982–83 8 seasons
Buffalo Sabres 2010–11 date 8 seasons
Detroit Red Wings 1969–70 1977–78 7 seasons
New York Islanders 1993–94 2001–02 7 seasons
Calgary Flames 1995–96 2003–04 7 seasons
New York Rangers 1996–97 2005–06 7 seasons
Blue Jackets 2000-01 2008–09 7 seasons
Toronto Maple Leafs 2003–04 2012–13 7 seasons
Thrashers/ Jets 2006–07 2014–15 7 seasons
Arizona Coyotes 2011–12 date 7 seasons

I couldn't care less what the guy says. I care about what he does on the ice, which, for his entire career, has led to more negative plays than positive ones by a mile. JP Losman always "said the right things" when he was with the Bills, too. It did not change the fact that he was a lousy quarterback, and had a lower football IQ than a rock.
- buffalofan19

So your saying the Bill's never shopped jp losman for a trade?

Risto is a good player. Agree to disagree.

Barkov had an incredible year last year and was probably the most dominant 200 foot Center in the entire NHL. This year he has taken a step back while Eichel has turned it up a few notches.

Getting Barkov now would be the equivalent of getting Kopitar in his prime.
- Pegullaville

👍

Barkov had an incredible year last year and was probably the most dominant 200 foot Center in the entire NHL. This year he has taken a step back while Eichel has turned it up a few notches.

Getting Barkov now would be the equivalent of getting Kopitar in his prime.
- Pegullaville

Other than Eichel or Dahlin, you give Florida whatever they want, whenever they want it, if they offer you Barkov, even if it means a non-lottery-protected first.

pocahontas dropped out
- homiedclown

Can you not be Racist one day of your life..

well you have posted 1,300 times that risto asked for a trade, when people "say" botts is shopping risto


nothing more, nothing less


just a response to your post
- homiedclown

I accept your apology. Everyone gets confused on this board.

I hear coronavirus patients are getting better now.

Other than Eichel or Dahlin, you give Florida whatever they want, whenever they want it, if they offer you Barkov, even if it means a non-lottery-protected first.
- buffalofan19

Better hope you can re-sign him.

2 years goes quick.

The win column begs to differ. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Giving Ristolainen the biggest minutes proves this in spades.
- buffalofan19

Literally the only proof Risto defenders have that he is the best option for playing big minutes is that he plays big minutes.

Go compare how he does penalty killing, defensive zone faceoffs, end of games with the lead, etc. His numbers (and not the silly complicated ones, his goals against) are bad all across the board.

Basically, the argument for playing risto 22+ minutes a night is that he always has been played that long. There is zero other support for it. Jokiharju is better in defensive situations. McCabe is slightly better but not very good either. Montour hasn't been good but he's still better than Risto.

Better hope you can re-sign him.

2 years goes quick.
- Powerslave

He's a player worth taking that risk.

Tell that to the insiders here
- gerbe75pts

He said it out loud. This is not a revelation.

Literally the only proof Risto defenders have that he is the best option for playing big minutes is that he plays big minutes.

Go compare how he does penalty killing, defensive zone faceoffs, end of games with the lead, etc. His numbers (and not the silly complicated ones, his goals against) are bad all across the board.

Basically, the argument for playing risto 22+ minutes a night is that he always has been played that long. There is zero other support for it. Jokiharju is better in defensive situations. McCabe is slightly better but not very good either. Montour hasn't been good but he's still better than Risto.
- matty12345

That's the thing. All stats, traditional, advanced, and the ones the three-year-old next door scribbles in his coloring book, point to this same conclusion.

Can you not be Racist one day of your life..
- gerbe75pts

How's he racist, she CLAIMS to be indian. She did it to herself.

He's a player worth taking that risk.
- buffalofan19

By that time hopefully Cozens or maybe this year's pick is ready at that time.