Because they aren't very good coaches. Every coach during Ristolainen's tenure hasn't seen a shelf life over three years, and deservedly so.
- buffalofan19

Sure pal

Keybank Jenny?
- jcragcrumple

Jenny from the block

I don't get how anyone can support Joe Biden.

A senile old man who mistakes his wife for his sister. The guy has dementia people.

Its amazing how the media focuses on Trump's mental health all the while ignoring Joe Biden's.


Trump is going to destroy this guy in the debates.
- toddkac

No one consumes information that way anymore. No one will watch the entire debate. They'll just get a recap and some highlights from CNN if they like Biden and from Fox if they like Trump, or from MSNBC is they vote democrat but like to pretend they aren't biased.

And those outlets will spin the debate however they please.

No one consumes information that way anymore. No one will watch the entire debate. They'll just get a recap and some highlights from CNN if they like Biden and from Fox if they like Trump, or from MSNBC is they vote democrat but like to pretend they aren't biased.

And those outlets will spin the debate however they please.
- matty12345

Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time. People want to trust him with the nuclear codes?

Not to mention Hunter is perfect blackmail material. He is compromised due to his crack addiction.

Another thing media seems to be ignoring.

Oh really, how did Donald Trump convince black voters to stay home?
- toddkac

By making Hillary sound like a terrible candidate. There was no way he was going to inner city to vote for him, and he knew it. He just needed to convince them that Hillary was no better.

Oh really, how did Donald Trump convince black voters to stay home?
- toddkac

This is a liberal message that never stops. The majority can't possibly disagree with them, so it's always about how blacks didn't vote, young people didn't make it to the polls, turnout was low, etc, etc. They never actually lose because their ideas didn't work for americans. It's always about how Americans failed to connect with Hillary, or how Americans didn't really understand the issues.

Something is always at fault but their policies. Which is why we now have a crazy man as president.

garth hasnt blogged in a whlie, maybe he has coronavirus? eklund should check in on him

Ok pollster. They're backing out to pin Bernie down because the Dems don't want him on the ticket. For some reason they're going to make Quid Pro Quo Joe the White Knight. Probably because he plans on making Michelle OBama VP.
- Hatboro_Swords

The black voter turnout rate declined for the first time in 20 years in a presidential election, falling to 59.6% in 2016 after reaching a record-high 66.6% in 2012.

https://www.pewresearch.o...f-americans-cast-ballots/

Not only declined but declined in big swing states

The black voter turnout rate declined for the first time in 20 years in a presidential election, falling to 59.6% in 2016 after reaching a record-high 66.6% in 2012.

https://www.pewresearch.o...f-americans-cast-ballots/

Not only declined but declined in big swing states
- hubie

What's this have to do with my take?

By making Hillary sound like a terrible candidate. There was no way he was going to inner city to vote for him, and he knew it. He just needed to convince them that Hillary was no better.
- buffalofan19

Oh Trump MADE Hillary look like a terrible candidate. It wasn't that she WAS a terrible candidate.

More blacks voted for Trump than Romney. That means Obama lost black votes.

This is a liberal message that never stops. The majority can't possibly disagree with them, so it's always about how blacks didn't vote, young people didn't make it to the polls, turnout was low, etc, etc. They never actually lose because their ideas didn't work for americans. It's always about how Americans failed to connect with Hillary, or how Americans didn't really understand the issues.

Something is always at fault but their policies. Which is why we now have a crazy man as president.
- matty12345

If Black voter turnout in 2016 matched 2012, Hillary wins.

Oh Trump MADE Hillary look like a terrible candidate. It wasn't that she WAS a terrible candidate.
- toddkac

That is the strategy of every candidate running for office, making the opponent look bad.

If Black voter turnout in 2016 matched 2012, Hillary wins.
- buffalofan19

Thats more on Obama and Hillary than Trump.

That is the strategy of every candidate running for office, making the opponent look bad.
- buffalofan19

There is a flaw in your logic.

Obama endorsed Hillary

So you are saying Trump had more influence with Blacks than Obama.

Thats more on Obama and Hillary than Trump.
- toddkac

And that goes to my earlier point. Biden has just about every influential person in his corner that Obama did. Hillary didn't. There were people on the left, as well as the right, that despised her. Biden doesn't have that problem.

And that goes to my earlier point. Biden has just about every influential person in his corner that Obama did. Hillary didn't. There were people on the left, as well as the right, that despised her. Biden doesn't have that problem.
- buffalofan19

Hillary had Obama and Michelle on her side.

Yet you are saying Blacks listened to Trump over Obama.

Got it.

There is a flaw in your logic.

Obama endorsed Hillary

So you are saying Trump had more influence with Blacks than Obama.
- toddkac

Just because Obama endorsed Hillary doesn't mean that everyone that campaigned for him did. There were a lot of folks on the right and the left that "sat this one out" when it came to campaigning because they couldn't stand either one of them.

Hillary had Obama and Michelle on her side.

Yet you are saying Blacks listened to Trump over Obama.

Got it.
- toddkac

No, I am saying that Trump's message was delivered in a way that got the blacks to say "screw it, I'm not voting for either of them." And the numbers absolutely back that up.

If Black voter turnout in 2016 matched 2012, Hillary wins.
- buffalofan19

I mean I feel like this is sort of obvious, but Obama is a bit darker than the Mrs. Clinton. Maybe he attracted a record number of black voters?

If you think Hillary Clinton should draw the same level of support from black voters, you're dreaming.

Just because Obama endorsed Hillary doesn't mean that everyone that campaigned for him did. There were a lot of folks on the right and the left that "sat this one out" when it came to campaigning because they couldn't stand either one of them.
- buffalofan19

You claim that black voters stayed home because they LISTENED to Trump yet Barack Obama endorsed Hillary

So either they listened to Trump over Obama or your logic is flawed.

I mean I feel like this is sort of obvious, but Obama is a bit darker than the Mrs. Clinton. Maybe he attracted a record number of black voters?

If you think Hillary Clinton should draw the same level of support from black voters, you're dreaming.
- matty12345

She didn't have to draw the same level of support. She just needed to not have the black vote decline as sharply as it did. Her problem wasn't that the black vote switched over to Trump. It was that the black vote didn't cast a ballot at all.

I mean I feel like this is sort of obvious, but Obama is a bit darker than the Mrs. Clinton. Maybe he attracted a record number of black voters?

If you think Hillary Clinton should draw the same level of support from black voters, you're dreaming.
- matty12345

Trump got more black votes than Mitt Romney.

That means Obama lost black support.

Also the other poster is claiming Blacks listened to Trump over Obama and stayed home even though Obama endorsed Hillary.

Its flawed logic.

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She didn't have to draw the same level of support. She just needed to not have the black vote decline as sharply as it did. Her problem wasn't that the black vote switched over to Trump. It was that the black vote didn't cast a ballot at all.
- buffalofan19

And thats on Barrack Obama not Donald Trump convincing people to stay home.

So your saying the Bill's never shopped jp losman for a trade?

Risto is a good player. Agree to disagree.
- Boss34