Leivo is a member of bloateds country club group, Jake has balls and will stand up for himself...easy choice.
- Makita

It’s not just about points though.
- LeftCoaster

Which one comes to camp in shape?
Which one sticks up for teammates?
Which one can generate offense, instead of only relying on line mates?

Leivo is a member of bloateds country club group, Jake has balls and will stand up for himself...easy choice.
- Makita

The fact that Virtanen can skate circles around Leivo while providing similar offensive numbers should be enough to persuade anyone to prefer Jake. His skill-set is far higher and he’s four years younger.

Be nice to keep both and have a coach that will utilize them properly.
- LordHumungous

The fact that Virtanen can skate circles around Leivo while providing similar offensive numbers should be enough to persuade anyone to prefer Jake. His skill-set is far higher and he’s four years younger.
- LeftCoaster

And yet Green always went to Leivo as the first choice.

Hopefully they change coaches by the start of the season.

- Marwood

Dare to dream

And yet Green always went to Leivo as the first choice.

Hopefully they change coaches by the start of the season.
- VANTEL

I’ve got nothing against Leivo, he served a much needed purpose, he allowed Virtanen time to mature and find his NHL game, however, he’s there now, there’s no need for Leivo. If the organization chooses Leivo over Virtanen there’s no hope for this franchise until current coaches and management are gone.

And yet Green always went to Leivo as the first choice.

Hopefully they change coaches by the start of the season.
- VANTEL

I've stayed away from bringing up the coach, but again DARE TO DREAM[/b

Dare to dream
- Makita

He's still learning, is one of my favourite reasons to keep him.

I’ve got nothing against Leivo, he served a much needed purpose, he allowed Virtanen time to mature and find his NHL game, however, he’s there now, there’s no need for Leivo. If the organization chooses Leivo over Virtanen there’s no hope for this franchise until current coaches and management are gone.
- LeftCoaster

- Marwood

lol figured it would be you or Makita that pipes in...

Pathetic? Not really.

It is one persons made up fantasy dream team, not something that the team has determined "this is it our best all round dream team lineup".

As for country club, Hansen wasn't a country club inductee, as you stated above he worked hard every shift, je ne sais quoi, you need to be passive, would rather head to the bench and not care about teammates getting mauled.

Personally I wouldn't have Hansen on my dream team, there are probably several players we wouldn't agree on, it is not a reflection country club perception. It's one persons picks, go ahead and make your own dream team list and share it here, lets see how country clubbish it is.
- Makita

IMac is the designated sports journalist for this club. He has access to this franchise like no other. IMO, he’s their mouthpiece. Basically an extension of their marketing team. He’s not just another fan.

I’m not dumping on IMac himself, I think it shows that when creating a dream team this franchise’s depth is pretty slim.

Let me do some sleuthing and I’ll come up with my own take on a Canuck dream team.

I’ve got nothing against Leivo, he served a much needed purpose, he allowed Virtanen time to mature and find his NHL game, however, he’s there now, there’s no need for Leivo. If the organization chooses Leivo over Virtanen there’s no hope for this franchise until current coaches and management are gone.
- LeftCoaster

I really like Jake also. I love the Shotgun tribute and I think he is a good young player.

My issue with the team is the D . It still needs fixing. I don't think slotting in Tryamkin and Rafferty would fix it and there is very little on the UFA market . That leaves the last option of trade. Who on Canucks have trade value . Brock or Jake?

It should be Masters week

It should be Masters week


- LeftCoaster

Talk about a country club game..

I really like Jake also. I love the Shotgun tribute and I think he is a good young player.

My issue with the team is the D . It still needs fixing. I don't think slotting in Tryamkin and Rafferty would fix it and there is very little on the UFA market . That leaves the last option of trade. Who on Canucks have trade value . Brock or Jake?
- VANTEL

The issue is they play so poorly as a unit defensively that they need a coach who can change the way they fundamentally play the game.

I've stayed away from bringing up the coach, but again DARE TO DREAM
- Makita[/b

Good luck with that. I think it is just unrealistic at this time to change. Doesn't matter what we think here on HB I don't think it will happen.

Talk about a country club game..
- Makita

Not too many poor kids make the tour that’s for sure, it’s a rich kids game

The issue is they play so poorly as a unit defensively that they need a coach who can change the way they fundamentally play the game.
- LeftCoaster

They did a coaching change and it is not much better . Lidster was here before. I don't have an answer.

They did a coaching change and it is not much better . Lidster was here before. I don't have an answer.
- VANTEL

The “D” coach isn’t responsible for what system they play, their systems are solely a product of the head coach.

The “D” coach isn’t responsible for what system they play, their systems are solely a product of the head coach.
- LeftCoaster

We changed that too

We changed that too
- VANTEL

Three years ago, if they are bottom five defensively next year, like they were this year, Green is gone.

Three years ago, if they are bottom five defensively next year, like they were this year, Green is gone.
- LeftCoaster

Green got a pretty big cheer on Sedin retirement night.

I think Francesco looks the team and says we went from 23 rd to a bubble team in one year . Merchandise flying off the shelves , fans in the seats. Great young , exciting team.

I think his final comments to Jim are good job. Everyone got extended.

The issue is they play so poorly as a unit defensively that they need a coach who can change the way they fundamentally play the game.
- LeftCoaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viTm1t6Kk0s&t=388s

Here's one that predates the spanish flu. A little story of corporate greed amidst a typhoid outbreak.
- golfingsince

That’s a interesting story. Never heard of it. The fact that the Ontario government never heard of the Cobalt Act is unbelievable.

Natural resource extraction and systemic abuse are synonymous even today. Massive change is needed but nothing will.

Frontline did a great piece last night on plastic recycling. Soul crushing to think recycling is just another con job by the oil industry to keep reduction from being the main goal.