I'd argue that last July, clearly he needed to upgrade the D in order to be able to compete, you can say his choice in doing so sucks but something needed to be done. Compared to Fantenberg who was horrible and Benn who was a non-entity, Myers was fine.
- DariusKnight

So the question is do you like paying 6 mil for a player you describe as fine. If he was a 3 or 4 mil player no one would be talking.

Apparently twitter is a buzz. I don’t know, I don’t pay attention to twitter.

The time to scenario plan the future is before signing the contract, not one year after signing it. Now they have to live with their decision.
- 1970vintage

Yeah I’m with you on Twitter, I think it may only be a vocal select group that doesn’t like the decision.

Yeah I’m with you on Twitter, I think it may only be a vocal select group that doesn’t like the decision.
- Makita

I’m sure I was in the minority. Didn’t like the signing when it happened even though everyone was letting out a sigh of relief that it wasn’t $8x8. It was like, “at least it isn’t completely retarded”...

Also, I’m not usually vocal with my opinions

Canuck Twitter is a train wreck. It’s like 1000 N4U’s all battling to be the biggest moron.

To me it's another Benning contract of giving too much money and term. They treated him like a top 2 dman when at best he is a 3/4 dman. Benning has a special skillset for overpaying UFA's, although some will argue that every GM does that at one point or another so it's ok if Benning keeps making the bed with stained sheets.
Are you sure you're feeling better?
- Marwood

I think they treated him like a second line defender, you have Tanev and Edler as 1st line and they are not better than Myers overall. The only defenceman better is Hughes

I liked the analysis that Lefty posted and pretty much agreed with the Athletics grades.

Yes feeling much better, hope everyone is getting through these difficult times.

Yeah I’m with you on Twitter, I think it may only be a vocal select group that doesn’t like the decision.
- Makita

i think it's more that the canucks' cap for the short/medium term is not looking good. if they're going to take the next step, they'll need some cap flexibility going forward (to re-sign their own high end players and sign/trade for win-now players).

while louie is an obvious choice for a compliance buyout (if there is one), myers' contract may look really bad in a couple years. as vantel pointed out, louie's only got a couple years left and most of the money will have been paid out. it may just be better to hold your nose and let it run out (or package with a pick to a team that wants the cap hit or will buy him out).

buying out myers would be a proactive move before the contract really stings.

most of us here don't think it will happen but think it's worth having the discussion.

So Myers is the latest whipping boy for the team, and Benning is an idiot for signing him as a UFA. Interesting, although I disagree (not surprising), but interesting non the less.
- Makita

I was never really on board with the signing. I guess I was happy that it was a year shorter and a million less per year than was being reported the contract would be.

So the question is do you like paying 6 mil for a player you describe as fine. If he was a 3 or 4 mil player no one would be talking.
- VANTEL

I disagree, if he was 3 or 4 mil player he would have been a steal, and we would hear his name constantly, so I’ll go that he shouldn’t have been paid more than 5.675 mil..

I’m sure I was in the minority. Didn’t like the signing when it happened even though everyone was letting out a sigh of relief that it wasn’t $8x8. It was like, “at least it isn’t completely retarded”...

Also, I’m not usually vocal with my opinions

Canuck Twitter is a train wreck. It’s like 1000 N4U’s all battling to be the biggest moron.
- 1970vintage[/quote]

I’m sure I was in the minority. Didn’t like the signing when it happened even though everyone was letting out a sigh of relief that it wasn’t $8x8. It was like, “at least it isn’t completely retarded”...

Also, I’m not usually vocal with my opinions

Canuck Twitter is a train wreck. It’s like 1000 N4U’s all battling to be the biggest moron.
- 1970vintage

If I think back ( I am not positive) most didn't want the Myers signing but knew the rumors would not go away. Jim had cap space and he was a big name name ticket of a short list . Edler was another big name and Gardiner.

There was not a lot to choose from and there still isn't . There was a reason for the friction and there was a reason for the sigh of relief.

I’m sure I was in the minority. Didn’t like the signing when it happened even though everyone was letting out a sigh of relief that it wasn’t $8x8. It was like, “at least it isn’t completely retarded”...

Also, I’m not usually vocal with my opinions

Canuck Twitter is a train wreck. It’s like 1000 N4U’s all battling to be the biggest moron.
- 1970vintage

You weren't alone. I had your back.

I’m sure I was in the minority. Didn’t like the signing when it happened even though everyone was letting out a sigh of relief that it wasn’t $8x8. It was like, “at least it isn’t completely retarded”...

Also, I’m not usually vocal with my opinions

Canuck Twitter is a train wreck. It’s like 1000 N4U’s all battling to be the biggest moron.
- 1970vintage

why would anyone subject themselves to that? It was bad enough with one.

I disagree, if he was 3 or 4 mil player he would have been a steal, and we would hear his name constantly, so I’ll go that he shouldn’t have been paid more than 5.675 mil..
- Makita

He plays third pair so I will disagree also. I don't mind him I don't think he has a good contract.

Same as I think it will be a mistake to pay Jake 3 mil to play on Beagles line. Just my opinion.

why would anyone subject themselves to that? It was bad enough with one.
- Makita

It morphed.

Top sought after free agents always get overpaid. The point was if Myers added value to the team and he did as the article outlined with facts. Even if his contract is an over payment its not so high. Contract doesn't skew to a negative which is what the original characterization of being a miss was portrayed.NuckFU.

Now there's 2.

He plays third pair so I will disagree also. I don't mind him I don't think he has a good contract.

Same as I think it will be a mistake to pay Jake 3 mil to play on Beagles line. Just my opinion.
- VANTEL

Get rid of Beagle. Another retarded Benning contract.

He plays third pair so I will disagree also. I don't mind him I don't think he has a good contract.

Same as I think it will be a mistake to pay Jake 3 mil to play on Beagles line. Just my opinion.
- VANTEL

Not many “3rd pair” guys play north of 20 minutes. He’s not worth 6 mil, but he plays second pair minutes. I don’t hate the fit, i do hate the price. Much rather buyout loui

why would anyone subject themselves to that? It was bad enough with one.
- Makita

The good thing about Twitter is the breaking news. The tittie pics are good quality and the prospect reports are above the MSM level. It is for most part ( the debates) an idiot show. I rarely post on there and when I do it is not Canuck talk.

You need to pick and choose your content on there.

Carol also uses it for some content and she is a very intelligent and skilled writer.

Once you sift through the horsesh1t it could be a usable tool.

He plays third pair so I will disagree also. I don't mind him I don't think he has a good contract.

Same as I think it will be a mistake to pay Jake 3 mil to play on Beagles line. Just my opinion.
- VANTEL

You keep saying this, bit the fact is out of all the centers on our team, JV played the least minutes with beag.

Not many “3rd pair” guys play north of 20 minutes. He’s not worth 6 mil, but he plays second pair minutes. I don’t hate the fit, i do hate the price. Much rather buyout loui
- neem55

The debate this morning is buyout both. Loui is the one that has to go but some on here are getting creative about moving out two bad contracts.

Get rid of Beagle. Another retarded Benning contract.
- Marwood

i think it's more that the canucks' cap for the short/medium term is not looking good. if they're going to take the next step, they'll need some cap flexibility going forward (to re-sign their own high end players and sign/trade for win-now players).

while louie is an obvious choice for a compliance buyout (if there is one), myers' contract may look really bad in a couple years. as vantel pointed out, louie's only got a couple years left and most of the money will have been paid out. it may just be better to hold your nose and let it run out (or package with a pick to a team that wants the cap hit or will buy him out).

buying out myers would be a proactive move before the contract really stings.

most of us here don't think it will happen but think it's worth having the discussion.
- RealityChecker

Absolutely it is worth having the discussion, I not meaning to dissuade anyone from discussing the teams cap situation, I’m just catching up and it seemed Myers is the guy.

You keep saying this, bit the fact is out of all the centers on our team, JV played the least minutes with beag.
- neem55

This has been an unusual year. Benning has been in the hunt of a top 6 forward for years.

Jake has been the recipient of this . First of all the team auditioned him there to see what they had . Then the extended injury time to Brock gave Jake more time in the top 6. Let's be truthful . Jim had Brock on extended leave so he could get his top 6 guy. The day Canucks drop out of the playoff numbers Brock is magically better.

So Jake should have gone to Gauds line but gets beaten out by Zack and is placed on the Sutter Beagle line.

Absolutely it is worth having the discussion, I not meaning to dissuade anyone from discussing the teams cap situation, I’m just catching up and it seemed Myers is the guy.
- Makita

There isn't a situation. No issues with the cap, not with Benning in charge.

There isn't a situation. No issues with the cap, not with Benning in charge.
- Marwood

- Codes1087

Get back to work!

This has been an unusual year. Benning has been in the hunt of a top 6 forward for years.

Jake has been the recipient of this . First of all the team auditioned him there to see what they had . Then the extended injury time to Brock gave Jake more time in the top 6. Let's be truthful . Jim had Brock on extended leave so he could get his top 6 guy. The day Canucks drop out of the playoff numbers Brock is magically better.

So Jake should have gone to Gauds line but gets beaten out by Zack and is placed on the Sutter Beagle line.
- VANTEL

But was he really? This kind of brings us back to Green IMO. Brock goes down and TT is acquired, but yet Toffoli goes to the Petey-Miller line (where JV should have got his TOI) and no Toffoli on the Horvat line with Pearson. Was Green justified here or was he actually pulling a Babcock to the media types that pressured him to have Toffoli with Pearson? We can speculate how we want but there has to bw something to this...