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SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Apr 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
Wrong. The Canucks are the only team paying recapture.
Edit; I believe Florida is paying a tiny portion of Luongo's recapture. Couldn't find anything about New Jersey.

- Marwood


NJ are picking up some recapture from Kovalchuk...$250K for five more years
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/devils

Florida are picking up $1M from Luongo for the next two years
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/panthers
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:11 PM ET
No. I think that fans will come (or not...) if they sign Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli or not. Because if they don't sign those guys, they will sign other guys. It's Petterson, Hughes, Horvat, Boeser that are filling seats.

Someone will sign Taylor Hall, compliance buyouts won't matter.

As Vantel has said many times (I agree), arenas are not going to be full the next time the NHL plays a game. That kind of social interaction is going to take time to build back to

- 1970vintage

Hall to calgary effects their sales in every way imaginable. Compliance buyout makes that possible. I can see what you’re trying to say, i just think you are blatantly wrong that they make no difference when it’s so blatantly obvious it would.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
NJ are picking up some recapture from Kovalchuk...$250K for five more years
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/devils

Florida are picking up $1M from Luongo for the next two years
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/panthers

- SlightlyOffside

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
Yeah, I don't think they are remotely similar. Compliance buyouts are a luxury for teams who made bad decisions. Canada's bailout is an effort to keep people safe, in their homes until the economy has an opportunity to get going again.

You have said, on too many occasions, that the cap isn't a problem. I agree, teams will be compliant on day one of the season. How they get there? It might mean the faces change more (or less) than fans would like.

- 1970vintage



The cap isn't a problem . Every team will find a way but the quality will sure drop.

The reference about the buyout and Emergency Fund is of course way different that is why I said I don't like comparing. The similarities are relief for an unusual circumstance.


I honestly don't mind if it comes down to letting Marky Taffoli and Tanev walk and bringing in Lind DiPietro and Rafferty but it is not the best thing for the image of hockey.

More than half the league would need to follow that also.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
NJ are picking up some recapture from Kovalchuk...$250K for five more years
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/devils

Florida are picking up $1M from Luongo for the next two years
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/panthers

- SlightlyOffside

LA has richards at 1.5
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:13 PM ET
LA has richards at 1.5
- neem55

For how long?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 4:14 PM ET
Kovy was 250k/yr, hefty fine, 1st & 3rd pick
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 8 @ 4:15 PM ET
Has anyone discussed signing Tree today?
- kaptaan


Shhhh... just ten and a half hours to go before we get though one day without talking about the Russian prophet.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
For how long?
- Marwood

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/kings
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:17 PM ET
For how long?
- Marwood

This year is the last, i believe it was three total they paid.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
Hall to calgary effects their sales in every way imaginable. Compliance buyout makes that possible. I can see what you’re trying to say, i just think you are blatantly wrong that they make no difference when it’s so blatantly obvious it would.
- neem55


it would make a difference for some teams, not all teams, and I don't believe it would affect league revenue in the slightest. Maybe Calgary sees some growth, but whatever market Hall signed in would also see that growth (potentially).
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
Kovy was 250k/yr, hefty fine, 1st & 3rd pick
- Nighthawk

250k hefty they deserved to lose the picks they were getting scott free from a megacontract
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:21 PM ET
This year is the last, i believe it was three total they paid.
- neem55

Thanks.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
Suter, Parise, Webber are the next (potential) wave.
- 1970vintage


So you now see why its beyond one team's benefit to get this taken out and what better time then post shutdown to help teams recover.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
250k hefty they deserved to lose the picks they were getting scott free from a megacontract
- neem55



Louongo's recapture would have been less if it was done a few years back . NJ's was close to a 8 year penalty
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
250k hefty they deserved to lose the picks they were getting scott free from a megacontract
- neem55

Reread

Hint punctuation
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:29 PM ET
Cam Newton to the Patriots 5 x 1
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Apr 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
Hall to calgary effects their sales in every way imaginable. Compliance buyout makes that possible. I can see what you’re trying to say, i just think you are blatantly wrong that they make no difference when it’s so blatantly obvious it would.
- neem55


Maybe it becomes obvious if they measure the big picture and not the dollars spent on buyouts as the bottom line on generating revenue.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:33 PM ET
it would make a difference for some teams, not all teams, and I don't believe it would affect league revenue in the slightest. Maybe Calgary sees some growth, but whatever market Hall signed in would also see that growth (potentially).
- 1970vintage

Every single team that spends close to the cap would be significantly changed. In addition, there’s a bunch of free agents to sign and money available for them. Win win unless you’re a bottom feeding team woth no market. But im all for moving bottom feeding teams with no markets.

Calgary would get some growth from bringing a homegrown superstar in... i suppose you don’t know the number one jersey last year?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
Louongo's recapture would have been less if it was done a few years back . NJ's was close to a 8 year penalty
- VANTEL

That’s true, I still think they should be paying more considering.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
Maybe it becomes obvious if they measure the big picture and not the dollars spent on buyouts as the bottom line on generating revenue.
- NuckUp

I feel like I’ve articulated that quite well, he just doesn’t agree that’s the case.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
That’s true, I still think they should be paying more considering.
- neem55



I think the recapture is an absolute joke.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:39 PM ET
I think the recapture is an absolute joke.
- VANTEL

Well exactly, either don’t do it at all or do it at an equal level. The fact they allowed other teams and not the Canucks is the joke
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:41 PM ET
Well exactly, either don’t do it at all or do it at an equal level. The fact they allowed other teams and not the Canucks is the joke
- neem55

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 8 @ 4:47 PM ET
That’s true, I still think they should be paying more considering.
- neem55

They did
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