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Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:01 PM ET
So there is no real use for handguns and assault riffles.

Hunting riffles are fine get rid of the rest.

- VANTEL

In Canada the only use allowed for handguns and assault style rifles is a shooting range. You need a permit to carry it directly from one location to the next, any deviation and you are violating the conditions and are subject to the law if caught.

Agree, there's no real use for assault weapons or handguns in this country, I've never owned an assault weapon, but I do have a non-restricted and restricted PAL so I did buy a handgun years ago at a local hunting store. I used it strictly at the range as a hobby, but it's been locked away for many years now. I have no use for it and have considered turning it into the RCMP for disposal.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
Exactly. It’s unsafe to live in Washington, which is a couple hundred kms south. You can have guns here if you get them registered, but it’s by no means easy access like down there.
- neem55

How long did you live there? What instances made you feel unsafe? What are the numbers of gun related deaths in Washington State compared to Canada?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
You can own guns but you can not conceal them and that is the huge issue. Tens of thousands Canadians every hour are breaking the law with concealed weapons.
- VANTEL

Is this just your opinion or do you have facts to back it up?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:09 PM ET
In Canada the only use allowed for handguns and assault style rifles is a shooting range. You need a permit to carry it directly from one location to the next, any deviation and you are violating the conditions and are subject to the law if caught.

Agree, there's no real use for assault weapons or handguns in this country, I've never owned an assault weapon, but I do have a non-restricted and restricted PAL so I did buy a handgun years ago at a local hunting store. I used it strictly at the range as a hobby, but it's been locked away for many years now. I have no use for it and have considered turning it into the RCMP for disposal.

- Pacificgem



I know a few friends that go to a shooting range but why does it have to be a real gun? The purpose of target shooting is challenge of hitting a target is it not? Why not use a BB gun? You are still hitting the target with a gun.Why does it have to be a powerful gun that can destroy things?

It is sickening that a few people can protect a right to have firearms when so much destruction is done by the majority of the owners.






VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
Is this just your opinion or do you have facts to back it up?
- Pacificgem



Yes I can back it up. I drive to every city in Canada and ask every citizen to open the coats and purses daily
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
Sure there is, I've owned guns for 35 years and I've never been in trouble with the law and I've never hurt anyone. I've responsibly purchased, registered and owned guns for personal use for a long time.

When I used to hunt it was really fun, we'd take quad's and trailers up to northern BC or Alberta and hunt for deer and moose, hunters helped the local economies with hotel reservations, food, fuel, purchases, etc.

- Pacificgem


There are hundreds of thousands of people who use drugs recreationally, that have never been in trouble with the law that find it “fun”. They also help economies.

Something that has the potential to cause so much damage shouldn’t be part of our society, no matter how much fun it is.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:17 PM ET
I know a few friends that go to a shooting range but why does it have to be a real gun? The purpose of target shooting is challenge of hitting a target is it not? Why not use a BB gun? You are still hitting the target with a gun.Why does it have to be a powerful gun that can destroy things?

It is sickening that a few people can protect a right to have firearms when so much destruction is done by the majority of the owners.

- VANTEL

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
There are hundreds of thousands of people who use drugs recreationally, that have never been in trouble with the law that find it “fun”. They also help economies.

Something that has the potential to cause so much damage shouldn’t be part of our society, no matter how much fun it is.

- 1970vintage

You don’t think hunting contributes to the economy?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:23 PM ET
You don’t think hunting contributes to the economy?
- Pacificgem


Everything that people are willing to spend money on contributes to the economy, but that doesn’t make it appropriate.
7mmwsm
Location: BC
Joined: 02.01.2017

Jun 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
There are hundreds of thousands of people who use drugs recreationally, that have never been in trouble with the law that find it “fun”. They also help economies.

Something that has the potential to cause so much damage shouldn’t be part of our society, no matter how much fun it is.

- 1970vintage


You are right something that causes so much damage shouldn't be part of our society. Unfortunately the Liberal Gun ban does not address the guns that are used in crimes. Legal gun owners make up the smallest percentage of people commiting crimes with firearms. The guns most used in crimes are black market guns brought in from outside the country and used by criminals. If the government actually wanted to help the future victims of gun violence they would stop the flow of illegal guns into our country and target the gangs using them. But it is easier to spend Billions in Tax Payers money to take guns from the legal gun owners.


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
You are right something that causes so much damage shouldn't be part of our society. Unfortunately the Liberal Gun ban does not address the guns that are used in crimes. Legal gun owners make up the smallest percentage of people commiting crimes with firearms. The guns most used in crimes are black market guns brought in from outside the country and used by criminals. If the government actually wanted to help the future victims of gun violence they would stop the flow of illegal guns into our country and target the gangs using them. But it is easier to spend Billions in Tax Payers money to take guns from the legal gun owners.



- 7mmwsm


Get rid of all the guns. Did you miss the part where I said spend more money on controlling illegal trafficking?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 1:36 PM ET
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:36 PM ET
Everything that people are willing to spend money on contributes to the economy, but that doesn’t make it appropriate.
- 1970vintage

Why is it not appropriate, because it can occasionally cause harm? So does a lot of other things, where is the line?

Can you provide a number to prove that guns are a leading cause of death in Canada. If you can, perhaps you are right, but I suspect you're not.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
I have no stats to back this up but Canadian gun owners, people who legally own guns, are probably the most responsible gun owners in the world.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
Get rid of all the guns. Did you miss the part where I said spend more money on controlling illegal trafficking?
- 1970vintage

They should spend more money on taking proper care of our seniors!!
7mmwsm
Location: BC
Joined: 02.01.2017

Jun 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
I know a few friends that go to a shooting range but why does it have to be a real gun? The purpose of target shooting is challenge of hitting a target is it not? Why not use a BB gun? You are still hitting the target with a gun.Why does it have to be a powerful gun that can destroy things?

It is sickening that a few people can protect a right to have firearms when so much destruction is done by the majority of the owners.

- VANTEL


What destruction? Paper targets?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
They should spend more money on taking proper care of our seniors!!
- Pacificgem

I thought you had enough money to take care of yourself?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Why is it not appropriate, because it can occasionally cause harm? So does a lot of other things, where is the line?

Can you provide a number to prove that guns are a leading cause of death in Canada. If you can, perhaps you are right, but I suspect you're not.

- Pacificgem


Why does it have to be the leading cause of death to be something that doesn’t belong in society? Gun ownership does not contribute to the well being of society in any single meaningful way.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:48 PM ET
Ron Hextall is also a much better GM than Jim Benning....in case that's still a thing. Just so happens that the Flyers owners wanted a puppet, like Jim and Francesco's relationship, but Hexy wasn't open to that
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:48 PM ET
They should spend more money on taking proper care of our seniors!!
- Pacificgem


That too.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
I thought you had enough money to take care of yourself?
- Marwood

I do, but people like you who have nothing because you've accomplished sweet bugger all are taking valuable funds away from people that built this country and need it.

While you're off getting high on the tax payers dollar there's a senior badly in need of money or care that they can't get.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
Ron Hextall is also a much better GM than Jim Benning....in case that's still a thing. Just so happens that the Flyers owners wanted a puppet, like Jim and Francesco's relationship, but Hexy wasn't open to that
- Pacificgem


Again we agree. See, people can be divided on some topics and united on others, and they can discuss them peacefully without calling each other names. Makita can come back any time now that we have proven our civility.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
Get rid of all the guns. Did you miss the part where I said spend more money on controlling illegal trafficking?
- 1970vintage

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
Again we agree. See, people can be divided on some topics and united on others, and they can discuss them peacefully without calling each other names. Makita can come back any time now that we have proven our civility.
- 1970vintage

It's because you and I are educated, intelligent, worldly people, unlike most on here. We can have a civil discussion even if we're of opposing views
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
What destruction? Paper targets?
- 7mmwsm



Unfortunately when they are doing drive by shootings they are not paper targets.
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