Dubas's moves going into this season didn't work. Its that simple. The Barrie-Kerfoot for Kadri trade, as well as bringing in Ceci - these moves caused this team to take a step back this year. Younger and cheaper? Who (frank)ing cares.

What about winning?
- fifty__missions

How so? ZITSEV isn't better than ceci, they both blow. It was a move to get away from a brutal contract.

They were one of thr top winning % teams after the coaching change.

Well they were actually in the playoffs until the NHL came up with some truly bizzareness this summer.

For the record... I said this whole scheme was bullpoop as soon as it was announced. Other results have also shown how stupid it was.

Imagine Pitt, Edmonton or Toronto getting Lafreniere
- Aetherial

That thought is too horrifying to contemplate.

Problem is that d-men are hard to come by and all of the teams with good d-men know it.
- TheMussel

These guys are so excited the Leafs lost.

I’d send Marner and Sandin for Seth Jones. That’s probably one of the best contracts in the league. Kid is sick.
- iTOLDu

Marner is at least 1.5 million overpaid. Jackets aren't making that deal

Just wanted to stop by and tell roger roper to suck my ass the rest of you' are die hard for sure

The Leafs had to trade Marleau with a 1st. Blame Lou.
- mjones242

How did they have to? Out of hundreds of possible trade scenarios with likely 2 dozen teams that was the only one... expand yours minds guys

Matt Lorito for Schmaltz, salomaki for Harper and help Vegas get Lehner by retaining some salary. That"s basically what Dubas did this trade deadline. It screams "if 100% confident this roster has 0 flaws" .
Fire Dubas and bring in a proper GM like Doug Wilson

You would not to get close to Jones with that offer.
- Aetherial

Probably right. Point being the Leafs need to be prepared to lose anyone not named Matthews to get some top D talent.

We don't agree with him either.
- fifty__missions

OK, my apologies to all you other Leaf fans. I'm not usually one to dance on someone else's grave. I'll leave it at that.

Nylander is gone, without question. Kapanen/Johnsson+ for another D. Pry Anderson out of Columbus p, and hopefully he’ll be back to his 2018-2019 self.
- Steven_Seagull

I wanted J Anderson for awhile. Just the type of winger the Leafs need.

Just wanted to stop by and tell roger roper to suck my ass the rest of you' are die hard for sure
- Upstate_isles

Yeah I can actually respect that.

Exactly
- Steven_Seagull

Fire Larry Tanenbaum

Agreed, the Leafs deserved their opportunity to lose in the round of 16, not the round of 24!
- EnzoD

I agree too you made the playoffs or you didn't

Just wanted to stop by and tell roger roper to suck my ass the rest of you' are die hard for sure
- Upstate_isles

Matt Lorito for Schmaltz, salomaki for Harper and help Vegas get Lehner by retaining some salary. That"s basically what Dubas did this trade deadline. It screams "if 100% confident this roster has 0 flaws" .
Fire Dubas and bring in a proper GM like Doug Wilson
- MaximusAurelius

Doug Wilson and his 0 Cups? Doug Wilson and his horrible, horrible contracts? That Doug Wilson? k

We don't agree with him either.
- fifty__missions

Guy is a tool.

Defense wins championships. I think you certainly have the assets to trade up front for some grit and D men which you guys desperately need.

How so? ZITSEV isn't better than ceci, they both blow. It was a move to get away from a brutal contract.

They were one of thr top winning % teams after the coaching change.
- burn

Zaitsev is much better than Ceci . You are blinded by your Dubas love

Marner is at least 1.5 million overpaid. Jackets aren't making that deal
- PlatosRepucklic

I personally think he’s about 4M overpaid.

We can blame Freddy for that soft goal (and he should be blamed) but what about zero frankin goals by the Leafs?

Marner is at least 1.5 million overpaid. Jackets aren't making that deal
- PlatosRepucklic

Dubas would have to throw in a first
why not
he loves to toss them away

The trading of the 1st was Dubas decision no one forced him to do that
Kadri trade was also his decision....

I'm not really sure where your train of thought is on this
- Mr_Smokey

He had to trade 1st to get away from a brutal contact so he could sign the young guys.

How so? ZITSEV isn't better than ceci, they both blow. It was a move to get away from a brutal contract.

They were one of thr top winning % teams after the coaching change.
- burn

Ok man. If you think we're all good, that's cool.

Matt Lorito for Schmaltz, salomaki for Harper and help Vegas get Lehner by retaining some salary. That"s basically what Dubas did this trade deadline. It screams "if 100% confident this roster has 0 flaws" .
Fire Dubas and bring in a proper GM like Doug Wilson
- MaximusAurelius

Like Doug Wilson! Oh ffs...

How many cups did he win in San Jose? Have you (frank)ing seen the state of that team?

Jesus Christ... No credibility from you at all...

Don't count you among the trolls.

It appears I hit a nerve with some of them
- Aetherial

Thx bro

Help us out & pull for my bunch. We could use more ppl chatting hockey if at least neutralish.

Doug Wilson and his 0 Cups? Doug Wilson and his horrible, horrible contracts? That Doug Wilson? k
- Steven_Seagull

Sucks Stevie Y went to DET. That’s who I want.