Ryan Wilson: Have someone in your life love you as much as Rutherford loves Jack Johnson Have someone in your life love you as much as Rutherford loves Jack Johnson

Ho Sang is a pass first guy which is why he doesn’t score. And no to Poulin or 15OA for Bertuzzi.

Trade market is closed until the draft, correct? Basically there should not be any big news until then...

Trade market is closed until the draft, correct? Basically there should not be any big news until then...
- hipcheck_goalie

I thought there was something open only to teams not still in the playoffs. I think it was trades? Can anyone confirm this? Maybe there is a gentleman's agreement among GMs not to trade until the playoffs are over?

I'm with adding a dman from free agency, we gotta get rid of JJ.
- 668710

I mean, as anemic as our offense was, we do have alot of depth. and we have alot of money leaving in the offseason, Bjug (4.1)can be moved, shultz (5.5)will be gone, channce murray can be moved (3.75), sheary (3) may not be re-signed . thats 16.35 million that can be moved somewhat easily. at the very least 8.5 with sheary and shultz, which we could directly use towards a big name FA.

Even if JR is trying to prop up JJ's value, he is doing a pretty bad job of it. Maybe not mention "all of the anti-Jack Johnson people"? I don't know.

At this point JR is a farce. So is Sully. Mario needs to step in. It is now his responsibility as owner. One would think that Burkle can also see a diminishing ROI based largely on these two knuckleheads.

It feels like the same bad movie with the same bad plot lines that has become totally predictable.

I mean, as anemic as our offense was, we do have alot of depth. and we have alot of money leaving in the offseason, Bjug (4.1)can be moved, shultz (5.5)will be gone, channce murray can be moved (3.75), sheary (3) may not be re-signed . thats 16.35 million that can be moved somewhat easily. at the very least 8.5 with sheary and shultz, which we could directly use towards a big name FA.
- joecool2931

Still gotta get rid of JJ lol I don't even care about how much cap we'll get from the other guys.

I'm still ok with Sullivan. But, I do agree that Rutherford has been back and forth soooo much with how the team should be built. Almost like he over thinks everything. Over his first year, and the last three years, he can't seem to give us a team with an identity top to bottom.

I'm still ok with Sullivan. But, I do agree that Rutherford has been back and forth soooo much with how the team should be built. Almost like he over thinks everything. Over his first year, and the last three years, he can't seem to give us a team with an identity top to bottom.
- cranktheradio

Welcome to late stage Rutherford.

With any luck your owner will remove him before he mires you in a decade of being "okay, but not good enough to really compete" while the fanbase whittles away to nothing.

JJ will probably get packaged to the Wild w/ Murray.

Does anyone know what's going on with Byfug? If he's healthy and could be had for cheap as a 3RD, that would be nice.

If Letang isn’t “the right partner” then who the hell is? Do the Penguins need to trade for Victor Hedman? Do they need Cale Makar? Does Ron Burkle need to invest in a time machine to get Erik Karlsson from five years ago? Can we get Nick Lidstrom or Ray Bourque? Who the hell is the right partner?!


Orr / Robinson / Potvin / Neids / that's about it... that could rescue him...

and it's possible JJ might sink even these guys...

JJ will probably get packaged to the Wild w/ Murray.
- 123Kid

Please tell me you have some inside information. I don't even care what the return is. A 7th, a mildly bad contract like Pateryn, I'll take it!

Trade JJ and Murray (if he signs an extension for $3 -$3.25M AAV) to Detroit for...... ah, hmmm, Cholowski!

Trade JJ and Murray (if he signs an extension for $3 -$3.25M AAV) to Detroit for...... ah, hmmm, Cholowski!
- HenryHockey

I don't know who Cholowski is, but done!

Trade JJ and Murray (if he signs an extension for $3 -$3.25M AAV) to Detroit for...... ah, hmmm, Cholowski!
- HenryHockey

I'm not looking this gift horse in the mouth, but I don't think Murray takes that money.

OUCH!

Does anyone know what's going on with Byfug? If he's healthy and could be had for cheap as a 3RD, that would be nice.
- Hockey66

I brought that up a while ago. Just don't know his status. But I'm guessing bad. He's 35 and fat lol. However if he is actually working to get back then he'll yea I'd take him.

Edit: 35.5 years old, I had to lol

JJ will probably get packaged to the Wild w/ Murray.
- 123Kid

I heard this too, just can't remember who said it. I mean JJ was going their way with Kessel but Phil (frank)ed us.

I brought that up a while ago. Just don't know his status. But I'm guessing bad. He's 35 and fat lol. However if he is actually working to get back then he'll yea I'd take him.

Edit: 35.5 years old, I had to lol
- 668710

You son of a b!tch!

You son of a b!tch!
- Hockey66

Lol, but honestly if he is actually working out to get back to the NHL, hell yea I'd grab him for the third pair.

I heard this too, just can't remember who said it. I mean JJ was going their way with Kessel but Phil (frank)ed us.
- 668710

If this is true, has there ever been a player in Pens history who has helped us and then subsequently hurt us more than Kessel?

If this is true, has there ever been a player in Pens history who has helped us and then subsequently hurt us more than Kessel?
- Hockey66

Kessel is just that guy lol

Lol, but honestly if he is actually working out to get back to the NHL, hell yea I'd grab him for the third pair.
- 668710

Yeah, he could be the mean and nasty we need in a less important role, provided he can still defend at an above JJ/Schultz level. Good offensive chops, too. Probably kinda slow regardless of how much he's been working out, though. Might be ok with a partner like Riikola.