Stamkos has a NTC, Point does not
- jdfitz77

I know, but i'm just saying TB would probably rather trade Stamkos - IF THEY COULD - over Point. Point is young and outstanding - there's no way in hell they trade the cornerstone of their team.

For EICHEL?

That's the only way
- Boss34

I’m sure Tampa wouldn’t even consider moving him unless the offer was amazing

Cozens & pick8?
Might even need more

I know, but i'm just saying TB would probably rather trade Stamkos - IF THEY COULD - over Point. Point is young and outstanding - there's no way in hell they trade the cornerstone of their team.
- kritter65

Agreed

Young players like his reputation get traded for high picks. Fitzpatrick did a couple years ago, I think Adams went for two.
- Fattony1187

Maybe khalil Mack from the University at Buffalo?

He was traded for a couple 1sts

Our defense is not good at all right now
We gotta figure that out ASAP
- jdfitz77

Gave up 16 points on the road and forced two turnovers.

I’d say that was pretty good performance.

Edit: forgot about the garbage time TD. Still good performance in my mind though

Our defense is not good at all right now
We gotta figure that out ASAP
- jdfitz77

A big DT would make Edmunds life a lot easier. Some of the holes that are plugged by a big DT are open. So Edmunds has had to make some tough decisions on where to go

Today our defense and d line run wise was great. Pass rush .... absolutely brutal

Maybe khalil Mack from the University at Buffalo?

He was traded for a couple 1sts
- Boss34

His contract / cap hit sucks. I would pass. I love the player though

Maybe khalil Mack from the University at Buffalo?

He was traded for a couple 1sts
- Boss34

Mack might be the best defensive player since Bruce Smith. Tremaine Edmunds is a PB alternate.

Mack might be the best defensive player since Bruce Smith. Tremaine Edmunds is a PB alternate.
- Wetbandit1

Von Miller and J.J Watt would like a word

Von Miller and J.J Watt would like a word
- Pegullaville

Nope.

Maybe Watt. But I still take Mack, he can stay on the field.

Edit: I also did say "might".

Edmunds is missing Star more than anyone. Star eats up the center and a guard letting Edmunds see things clearly and now those guards have been on him and Edmunds gets lost
- Stripes77

👍

Good stuff stripes.

I was hoping the Houston playoff game was just a bad tackling game. Starting to become a habit.

It would be nice to help with some plays that lead to turnovers. He's overdue.

Where's ted washington or sam Adams when you need them?

Our defense is not good at all right now
We gotta figure that out ASAP
- jdfitz77

I agree but if you look at the league as a whole plenty of defenses are getting torched...scoring is way up

Gave up 16 points on the road and forced two turnovers.

I’d say that was pretty good performance.

Edit: forgot about the garbage time TD. Still good performance in my mind though

- Pegullaville

Raiders punted ONCE
We play like that against the good teams we’ve got coming up & we lose
Can’t depend on turnovers to win games

I agree but if you look at the league as a whole plenty of defenses are getting torched...scoring is way up
- Leninthebuff

I mean you essentially have to bear hug someone at this point to get a holding call on the O-Line and there is no crowd noise.

That has a huge effect on the defence.

I’m sure Tampa wouldn’t even consider moving him unless the offer was amazing

Cozens & pick8?
Might even need more
- jdfitz77

I'd say point has as much if not more value than eichel.

Tough call.

I wouldn't trade eichel for 8OA and cozens.

Add joker and probably Casey. Maybe a 1st too (protected)

I’m sure Tampa wouldn’t even consider moving him unless the offer was amazing

Cozens & pick8?
Might even need more
- jdfitz77

He’s at worst the 7th best center in hockey. He’s less likely to be traded than Eichel at this point ( not saying he’s better)

Raiders punted ONCE
We play like that against the good teams we’ve got coming up & we lose
Can’t depend on turnovers to win games
- jdfitz77

Sure but you can win by forcing them to kick field goals.

I believe Gruden should have went for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking the field goal to get them to 16 points.

However if you can bend and not break that definitely helps.

I'd say point has as much if not more value than eichel.

Tough call.

I wouldn't trade eichel for 8OA and cozens.

Add joker and probably Casey. Maybe a 1st too (protected)
- Boss34

No way
Not imo anyways

But idk that I’d wanna trade Cozens & pick8 either
One, or both, could become star players

Sure but you can win by forcing them to kick field goals.

I believe Gruden should have went for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking the field goal to get them to 16 points.

However if you can bend and not break that definitely helps.
- Pegullaville

Yards allowed don't always tell the full story. For the most part they've been keeping the play in front of them, that's going to open up the underneath poop that they've been giving up.

Sure but you can win by forcing them to kick field goals.

I believe Gruden should have went for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking the field goal to get them to 16 points.

However if you can bend and not break that definitely helps.
- Pegullaville

Well Carr isn’t Mahomes, Wilson, Big Ben, etc
Those FGs will be TDs vs the really good teams

Our defense HAS to be better if we are gonna beat them

Norman is a professional nfl veteran.
Top 3 cb a few years ago

Everyone gets burned. Even Gilmore.

I'm not worried, 1st game back. Everyone else is at game 4 speed. He brings an attitude.

QBs don't even look trey's way. Speaking of top 3 cbs.
- Boss34

I understand that Boss, just referencing something said earlier. And he brings a attitude, it worked out but it could have been a big difference in the game.

His contract / cap hit sucks. I would pass. I love the player though
- Sabretooth9

Maybe trade chicago tremaine and okposo to offset the cap hit ? 😀

Mack should have been the pick over watkins

Well Carr isn’t Mahomes, Wilson, Big Ben, etc
Those FGs will be TDs vs the really good teams

Our defense HAS to be better if we are gonna beat them
- jdfitz77

That’s fair.

I understand that Boss, just referencing something said earlier. And he brings a attitude, it worked out but it could have been a big difference in the game.
- Buff36

👍

You have been %100 on with your assessment of tremaine.

👍

You have been %100 on with your assessment of tremaine.
- Boss34

He's still so young, he just needs better gap control and a STAR in front of him.