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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
I don't think he can trade unwanted contracts no. That said I don't think Sutter is an unwanted contract. Loui is but not Sutter IMO.

Benning should never again be allowed to utter the phrase We want to acquire picks. It is definitely his weak point.

- VANTEL


Loui and Beagle are unwanted, Sutter still has value.

I would go Sutter (1 mil retained) for a 3rd.
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
There is no other option. The trade will happen soon. A very bad trade.
- Fidel


Absolutely nothing will happen. JB will make his 3rd to 7th round picks and will try and sign all of his UFAs and RFAs. The 20-21 team will be pretty much the same team as 19-20.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Oct 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
There is no other option. The trade will happen soon. A very bad trade.
- Fidel



I'm not sure that is true as we can always keep him, especially in light of the Toffoli rumors. I mean, the kid's got the Hockey IQ of a dull rock but his north-south style of play is not likely to regress anytime soon, with his goal output steadily increasing year to year.

Trading a likely (almost current) 20g/20a 24 year old for a second rounder is just (frank)ing dum.

Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
Addition Subtraction moving parts.

There are only a few things that are off the table for me. Trading Petey or Hughes and trading another 1st.

- manvanfan


Miller and the NMC Boys also.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
Addition Subtraction moving parts.

There are only a few things that are off the table for me. Trading Petey or Hughes and trading another 1st.

- manvanfan


Under the right conditions, would be perfectly fine giving up a first. If Ekblad was coming back in some package, I wouldn't blink at that first.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
Yup same dude who said he should have taken Grewe instead of POdkolzin cus he has the same skill set with higher upside....kids a real draft guru
- Brooks_Light


DCT from last year.
Canucks Draft
10 Zegras/Boldy
40 Rees/Grewe
71 Billy Constantinou
102 Ilya Konovalov
133 Carter Berger
156 Xavier Simoneau
164 ?
183 ?
195 ?

Undrafted. I got undrafted players in some of mine but there are usually my 7th round picks, not 3rd and 5ths
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
I'm not sure that is true as we can always keep him, especially in light of the Toffoli rumors. I mean, the kid's got the Hockey IQ of a dull rock but his north-south style of play is not likely to regress anytime soon, with his goal output steadily increasing year to year.

Trading a likely (almost current) 20g/20a 24 year old for a second rounder is just (frank)ing dum.


- Whiskey-Tango


Yeah. But I bet JB will hit the panic button soon and shot on the bed. Or will not find the button and all FA will walk away.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
Under the right conditions, would be perfectly fine giving up a first. If Ekblad was coming back in some package, I wouldn't blink at that first.
- NewYorkNuck

Van has probably 2 potential top 6 forwards(Hogs Podz) and 3 (OJ, Rathbone, Woo) top 4 potential D in the system.

Core is strong for now but prospect cupboards literally empty by the end of this season and with no first or second round pick this year. Canuck farm system could be bottom 5 if 2 or 3 of those 5 potentials graduate to the NHL this season.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Oct 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
Sure seems like they want Narky and my goodness Jimbo is gonna go for tyson Barrie I bet
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Lawton is writing on the main blog that teams are asking Vegas for a first and a second and 33 % hold on Fluery's two years at 7 mil. They may have no other choice but we do. No way I would do that with Loui
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
I hope Jake is part of a package deal to get someone else/an upgrade to the RHD.

I would even try to swap him with DeBrusk – similar players needing new starts.

- NewYorkNuck

Debrusk and Jake really aren't very similar. Debrusk is much more like Leivo.

Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Sure seems like they want Narky and my goodness Jimbo is gonna go for tyson Barrie I bet
- Jkuzzi


Wow.
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Lawton is writing on the main blog that teams are asking Vegas for a first and a second and 33 % hold on Fluery's two years at 7 mil. They may have no other choice but we do. No way I would do that with Loui
- VANTEL


Hostage
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 7 @ 10:31 AM ET
Van has probably 2 potential top 6 forwards(Hogs Podz) and 3 (OJ, Rathbone, Woo) top 4 potential D in the system.

Core is strong for now but prospect cupboards literally empty by the end of this season and with no first or second round pick this year. Canuck farm system could be bottom 5 if 2 or 3 of those 5 potentials graduate to the NHL this season.

- manvanfan


I get that people really care about the farm system – and it's needed – but it's not the end-all be-all of a team. If they trade the first for a 24 year old #1 RHD, that guy is going to stay with the team for 6 plus years. The first round pick in the 20s likely isn't going to turn into a stud player like that.

Same with the kids in the farm system. You're adding them to a team with 3 young top 6 players, 1 young top pair D, and a young goalie. There are only so many spots open on a team. That's the core for the next 6+ years.

I agree trading a first just because isn't helpful, we need to have kids pushing for spots. However, packaging it for a young stud top pairing RHD that's going to be with the franchise core for its window is fine by me.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 7 @ 10:33 AM ET
Good morning and happy Wednesday everyone
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 7 @ 10:33 AM ET
Hostage
- Fidel


I hope someone has called the police for them in this hostage situation
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:37 AM ET
Good morning and happy Wednesday everyone
- Codes1087


Did you get anyone from here to play warzone with you yet?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:37 AM ET
I get that people really care about the farm system – and it's needed – but it's not the end-all be-all of a team. If they trade the first for a 24 year old #1 RHD, that guy is going to stay with the team for 6 plus years. The first round pick in the 20s likely isn't going to turn into a stud player like that.

Same with the kids in the farm system. You're adding them to a team with 3 young top 6 players, 1 young top pair D, and a young goalie. There are only so many spots open on a team. That's the core for the next 6+ years.

I agree trading a first just because isn't helpful, we need to have kids pushing for spots. However, packaging it for a young stud top pairing RHD that's going to be with the franchise core for its window is fine by me.

- NewYorkNuck


I seen on twitter today a poll of who would the fans prefer JTM or the kid with the long name at #20 . Eighteen % took the kid with the long name.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
Day 2 players to pick from 2-7
Helge Grans RHD
Jan Mysak W
Sam Colangelo W
Luke Tuch W
Carson Bantle W
Blake Biondi W
Landon Kosior RHD
Landon Slaggert C
Wyatt Schingoethe C
Owen Pederson W
Ryan O'Rourke LHD
Eamon Powell RHD
Luke Prokop RHD
Mason Langenbrunner RHD (probably not drafted)
Brock Faber RHD
Jacob Truscott LHD
Luke Reid RHD
Chase Bradley W (probably not drafted)
Pavel Novak W (probably not drafted)
Nick Malik G

Contrary to DCT and the abundances of NHL talent left in this draft. I mean Antonio Stranges was a legit top 10 pick this season according to him before the season started.

Albin Grewe who Van should have taken in the 2nd round last season has a single point in the SHL over two years. (22 games)

- manvanfan


Going after DCT with the heat
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:42 AM ET
Going after DCT with the heat
- Pres.cup


lol. Only excitement we’ll see today.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 7 @ 10:42 AM ET
Did you get anyone from here to play warzone with you yet?
- bloatedhefty


No I didn't. Ended up playing with a couple guys from work though
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
Good morning and happy Wednesday everyone
- Codes1087


Thank you friend!!!!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:44 AM ET
I seen on twitter today a poll of who would the fans prefer JTM or the kid with the long name at #20 . Eighteen % took the kid with the long name.
- VANTEL

Speaking of twitter, I got a PM yesterday telling me you set up a twitter account in my username in order to trash me and my wife.
My wife!?
Seriously!?
You are pathetic! Grow the f*ck up.


For a guy who doesn't care about what I say, it sure seems like you care a lot. You need help.
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
I seen on twitter today a poll of who would the fans prefer JTM or the kid with the long name at #20 . Eighteen % took the kid with the long name.
- VANTEL


Funny. 18%. I could understand the reason.
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Oct 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
No I didn't. Ended up playing with a couple guys from work though
- Codes1087


As mentioned, I’ll play as soon as I make room for it or get an external drive. It’s a huge download on Xbox if you don’t have the disks. This week at work is nuts.
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