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Eldebrink
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Port Compton, BC
Joined: 08.18.2016

Oct 7 @ 2:51 PM ET
Esa Lindell comparison.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
I like the pick, another LHD is a little bit of a head scratcher but I'm thinking this is just a BPA situation.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
Esa Lindell comparison.
- Eldebrink



I know you're just quoting the "expert" so this isn't directed at you but Lindell is a shutdown guy and this guy is an offensive minded dman who has. issues defensively. I swear these comparisons are just based off of which position you play and what country you were born in,

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
I like the pick, another LHD is a little bit of a head scratcher but I'm thinking this is just a BPA situation.
- NorthNuck

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
I don't like Pronman, but here's his take:

Jurmo is one of the more polarizing prospects in this year’s draft. There are moments and games where he looks like a top-end player. He’s 6-foot-4 and a true high-end skater. When he’s on, he shows skill and offensive creativity, making plays all over the ice. He’s one of the best puck rushers in the draft and shows no fear to go end to end – something he does a lot of during games. I’ve seen flashes of great vision from him, I’ve also seen times where it seems like he gets tunnel vision and just wants to do it all himself, so I debated between a 55 and a 60 on his hockey sense. He’s also not great defensively, with iffy gaps and stick play, which isn’t ideal given he doesn’t put up big numbers. He can rub some scouts the wrong way with his approach to the game and coaches don’t lean on him, but in terms of pure tools he checks a lot of boxes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
J.D. Burke
I'm honestly astounded by the fact that Joni Jurmo was even available to the #Canucks. Totally slipped my mind as an option because it was hard to imagine he'd be there.



I guess you have to root against the pick now

- Nucker101





One of the guys on SN tv just said he had him at 45. Benning said 2 days ago they are not drafting for position . They will draft BPA . He said in the 5 th round they will draft for position
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
J.D. Burke
I'm honestly astounded by the fact that Joni Jurmo was even available to the #Canucks. Totally slipped my mind as an option because it was hard to imagine he'd be there.



I guess you have to root against the pick now

- Nucker101

If JD Burke likes this pick. What does that tell you. All you have to do is watch the Scouching video and you can see the guy skates like the wind. Never engages in any corner battles, rushes the puck up the ice to lose it a lot. Wave his stick at opponents and that's it.

"Made it a lot easier for players to go around him in the offensive zone"
Eldebrink
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Port Compton, BC
Joined: 08.18.2016

Oct 7 @ 2:57 PM ET


I know you're just quoting the "expert" so this isn't directed at you but Lindell is a shutdown guy and this guy is an offensive minded dman who has. issues defensively. I swear these comparisons are just based off of which position you play and what country you were born in,

- Nucker101


Ha! My intention was with a question mark. I didn't see it either.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 7 @ 2:57 PM ET


I know you're just quoting the "expert" so this isn't directed at you but Lindell is a shutdown guy and this guy is an offensive minded dman who has. issues defensively. I swear these comparisons are just based off of which position you play and what country you were born in,

- Nucker101

The scouting report on this guy reminds me a lot of Juolevi
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
Scouching guy on Youtube, AKA the Big Bang Theory Extr likes the pick. I trust his opinion over guys like Pronman since he doesn't seem biased toward/against specific types of players
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
I don't like Pronman, but here's his take:
- Nucker101

If you haven't watched the scouting video, you need too.

Says in the video Jurmo actively avoided physical contract from time to time.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
I don't like Pronman, but here's his take:
- Nucker101

from an amalgam of the analyses that you've posted, it seems that he could be a steal or will never play a game in the league.

i don't mind taking a gamble with the pick. going into the third round, you're going to get depth or get lucky. i'm not going to complain that they took a shot at a top 4 rather than fall back on a 7th or 8th type.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
If JD Burke likes this pick. What does that tell you. All you have to do is watch the Scouching video and you can see the guy skates like the wind. Never engages in any corner battles, rushes the puck up the ice to lose it a lot. Wave his stick at opponents and that's it.

"Made it a lot easier for players to go around him in the offensive zone"

- manvanfan


Scoching seems like he thinks he's good value at this point despite the Juolevi-like defense.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
Scouching guy on Youtube, AKA the Big Bang Theory Extr likes the pick. I trust his opinion over guys like Pronman since he doesn't seem biased toward/against specific types of players
- Nucker101

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
The scouting report on this guy reminds me a lot of Juolevi
- NorthNuck

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
Scouching guy on Youtube, AKA the Big Bang Theory Extr likes the pick. I trust his opinion over guys like Pronman since he doesn't seem biased toward/against specific types of players
- Nucker101

Scouching should listen to himself in the video
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
If you haven't watched the scouting video, you need too.

Says in the video Jurmo actively avoided physical contract from time to time.

- manvanfan


It's clear that Jimbo is all-in on puck moving dmen judging from his latest interview, he saw the conference finals/SCF and was convinced that he needs as many puck movers that he can get.

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
Scoching seems like he thinks he's good value at this point despite the Juolevi-like defense.
- Nucker101

Guys this deep in the draft are taken as projects, for the most part, you look at their raw skills and then try to develop them. He’s obviously going to have a lot of holes in his game or he would’ve went in the first round.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Scouching should listen to himself in the video
- manvanfan


I assume he likes the pick at this point due to the size/skill/speed combo, if the kid's defensive game improves then he could be a NHL'er. Worth a shot in the 3rd. I assume he'd be more critical of the pick if it was the 2nd round.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Guys this deep in the draft are taken as projects, for the most part, you look at their raw skills and then try to develop them. He’s obviously going to have a lot of holes in his game or he would’ve went in the first round.
- Pacificgem

Exactly. Hopefully he becomes more physically involved as he fills out since he's a lanky kid.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
from an amalgam of the analyses that you've posted, it seems that he could be a steal or will never play a game in the league.

i don't mind taking a gamble with the pick. going into the third round, you're going to get depth or get lucky. i'm not going to complain that they took a shot at a top 4 rather than fall back on a 7th or 8th type.

- RealityChecker




It's the third round, almost every kid picked is going to have holes in their game. Better to draft for upside (as so many here have said) rather than safety – though as I read that doesn't even satisfy the loudest
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
Exactly. Hopefully he becomes more physically involved as he fills out since he's a lanky kid.
- Nucker101


198 is not really Lanky
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Oct 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
I assume he likes the pick at this point due to the size/skill/speed combo, if the kid's defensive game improves then he could be a NHL'er. Worth a shot in the 3rd. I assume he'd be more critical of the pick if it was the 2nd round.
- Nucker101

i jumped over to his live feed and he was more complimentary there than manvanfans other video. also had him ranked 36th. really hoping his hockey sense is there though...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
Scoching seems like he thinks he's good value at this point despite the Juolevi-like defense.
- Nucker101

I like his videos and the things he says during the video except when it comes too projections. Dude is weak. Rely's way too much analytics.

"He is raw with all capital letters"

"A lot of work needs to be done especially defensively"

"far too soft infront of the net"

"For someone with great mobility, he was way to reliant on dumping pucks"

This is 2 minutes into the video
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 7 @ 3:07 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfRMFq304Ug

Scouch

After watching this video, He went on my Do not draft list.

Guy you might take into the 6th round

- manvanfan

So you base your analysis off of one video and in the same breath openly mock DCT.

Wow, pretty high opinions I would say.
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