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redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 9 @ 7:06 PM ET
I'm astonished he went for that combination of term and $.

It's a serious miss from Treliving to not bring him back at that price. Horrible.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Oct 9 @ 7:08 PM ET
I'm astonished he went for that combination of term and $.

It's a serious miss from Treliving to not bring him back at that price. Horrible.

- redseerpf


He's getting overpaid big time.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Oct 9 @ 7:17 PM ET
I'm astonished he went for that combination of term and $.

It's a serious miss from Treliving to not bring him back at that price. Horrible.

- redseerpf


Dude, I'm not - the flat cap is going to play havoc with mid tier guys this year. This actually an overspend IMO, and the Leafs are already cap (frank)ed. What i find truly hilarious is that they replaced Gardiner with a more expensive Gardiner
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Oct 9 @ 7:20 PM ET
I'm astonished he went for that combination of term and $.

It's a serious miss from Treliving to not bring him back at that price. Horrible.

- redseerpf


For one you have no idea what the Flames offered maybe he wanted to go home...also a NMC with the expansion draft coming up likely doesn't work with the Flames plans

Calgary still has money to spend
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 9 @ 7:32 PM ET
I'm astonished he went for that combination of term and $.

It's a serious miss from Treliving to not bring him back at that price. Horrible.

- redseerpf


Warts and all 5M AAV isn’t terrible for a guy that has played the top pair for the last 5 years. Not saying he should probably be played as top pair but you can put him there in a pinch.

What’s surprises me most about Brodie signing with the leafs is that he’s a huge wings fan, not that there an attractive location right now but to go to their rival.

As well it seemed the Calgary fans managed to get between his ears a bit based on his comments after his health scare, so to go to a market that’s extremely harsh on players in the worst of times I can’t help but think he’s going to get eaten alive like Gardiner 2.0.

As far as markstrom goes I’m happy to have him, I don’t love the 6th year or the no move clause but it’s good to have a stable starter since kipper left. And to be fair Vancouver hasn’t really iced a great team in front of him until this year so as long as we can do that it should work out.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Oct 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
Markstrom is a great pick up for Calgary.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 9 @ 7:34 PM ET
Is Brodie not the jake gardiner of the western conference ?
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 9 @ 7:35 PM ET
For one you have no idea what the Flames offered maybe he wanted to go home...also a NMC with the expansion draft coming up likely doesn't work with the Flames plans

Calgary still has money to spend

- flashfire


Dudes a wings fan and spend his summers half an hour away from the Detroit border. This isn’t a player going home
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Oct 9 @ 7:46 PM ET
Is Brodie not the jake gardiner of the western conference ?
- Redmile247

Yes
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Oct 9 @ 7:52 PM ET
Good job calgary...

Now make sure you kick the sht out of vancouver 4 times a year.

Absolutely HATE the canucks!
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Oct 9 @ 7:54 PM ET
Exactly this my man.

You keepin all those girls happy down south?!


(He lives in South America so get your minds out of the gutters boys)

- Flamin_Irishmin


Yes to both ways that this could be read!



How goes Irish?
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Oct 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
Good job calgary...

Now make sure you kick the sht out of vancouver 4 times a year.

Absolutely HATE the canucks!

- bruceflyers



With an attitude like that you are welcome on this board at any time.

Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Oct 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
I'm astonished he went for that combination of term and $.

It's a serious miss from Treliving to not bring him back at that price. Horrible.

- redseerpf

Sorry I have to disagree with you because...... he wanted a NMC & did not want to be exposed on the expansion draft, Tre wasnt prepared to give him that. In Toronto, he was assured he would be protected. Its not a serious miss, its that fcking expansion draft.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 9 @ 8:30 PM ET
Sorry I have to disagree with you because...... he wanted a NMC & did not want to be exposed on the expansion draft, Tre wasnt prepared to give him that. In Toronto, he was assured he would be protected. Its not a serious miss, its that fcking expansion draft.
- Kevin R


Yeah there's that, you're probably right.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 9 @ 8:40 PM ET
How's the mood in here.

Brodie out and overpaid a bit for Markstrom (at least re term).
Do you guys still have room for Hall or no?
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Oct 9 @ 8:48 PM ET
How's the mood in here.

Brodie out and overpaid a bit for Markstrom (at least re term).
Do you guys still have room for Hall or no?

- dbot



I hope not. We do not need LW. Unless Johnny is going somewhere I cannot see Hall happening,

Happy as poop about Markstrom.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 9 @ 8:57 PM ET
I hope not. We do not need LW. Unless Johnny is going somewhere I cannot see Hall happening,

Happy as poop about Markstrom.

- DuranDuran


Good guy and a good goalie.
i'm happy for him that he's getting paid.
Keep an eye on that groin
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Oct 9 @ 8:59 PM ET
I hope not. We do not need LW. Unless Johnny is going somewhere I cannot see Hall happening,

Happy as poop about Markstrom.

- DuranDuran


Happy to see more support for markstrom here. I like rittich but we needed a starting goalie that can play good for the whole year. As well it’s nice to see stability for the first time since kipper. Playoffs not included we have no issues offensively or defensively which made an upgrade in net a priority for me going into the off-season, lehner was my first choice but markstrom is a solid plan B.

With just over 10 million left, Andrew mangiapane to resign and a Brodie sized hole to fill we shouldn’t be looking at Hall.

I don’t know what mangiapane will get but my first thought is chris Tanev may be had for cheap, any other ideas?
WrySatyr
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.17.2019

Oct 9 @ 9:31 PM ET
Personally, I don't like the cost or term for Markstrom. I would have preferred to sign Khudobin for $4M, bring back Talbot for $3.7 and have the best tandem in the West. Would have packaged BSD up with Derek Ryan for picks. I'm betting that Rittich's game thoroughly goes to poop now that the Flames have unequivacably made it clear that he'll never be number one - not that he deserved to be after a few springs where he lost his game and played himself out of ever starting a playoff game. I feel bad for him - he's a really good guy.

In a dream world, the Flames would have signed both Krug and Pietrangelo. Realistically, they won't be in contention for either of them (especially now that Krug signed with the Blues) and Pietrangelo will (I'm guessing) sign with the Rangers.

Hamonic brought grit, but the advanced stats showed that he wasn't worth what Tre paid to bring him here. He'll likely land in Winnipeg, anyway.

Brodie was our best D thru the playoffs. Anderson was a close second and both were lights out better than Gio. Did you see how crappy Gio played against Dallas. For being team captain, he doesn't demonstrate leadership when it comes to the playoffs.

Just no to Barrie. He's a one-dimensional player who rarely (if ever) plays a full season and the only thing he does consistently is play poor defensively.

I'd take a flier on Pysyk. Plays sound defence and in a pinch, has played wing.

And no to Hall, too. He had one decent season with Edmonton and one really good season with NJ, but he's a train wreck when it comes to back checking and creating turnovers that turn into scoring opportunities for the opposition.

Someone mentioned Craig Smith. I like that - good solid guy. Puts up consistent secondary scoring while playing a 200-foot game.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:40 PM ET
Personally, I don't like the cost or term for Markstrom. I would have preferred to sign Khudobin for $4M, bring back Talbot for $3.7 and have the best tandem in the West. Would have packaged BSD up with Derek Ryan for picks. I'm betting that Rittich's game thoroughly goes to poop now that the Flames have unequivacably made it clear that he'll never be number one - not that he deserved to be after a few springs where he lost his game and played himself out of ever starting a playoff game. I feel bad for him - he's a really good guy.

In a dream world, the Flames would have signed both Krug and Pietrangelo. Realistically, they won't be in contention for either of them (especially now that Krug signed with the Blues) and Pietrangelo will (I'm guessing) sign with the Rangers.

Hamonic brought grit, but the advanced stats showed that he wasn't worth what Tre paid to bring him here. He'll likely land in Winnipeg, anyway.

Brodie was our best D thru the playoffs. Anderson was a close second and both were lights out better than Gio. Did you see how crappy Gio played against Dallas. For being team captain, he doesn't demonstrate leadership when it comes to the playoffs.

Just no to Barrie. He's a one-dimensional player who rarely (if ever) plays a full season and the only thing he does consistently is play poor defensively.

I'd take a flier on Pysyk. Plays sound defence and in a pinch, has played wing.

And no to Hall, too. He had one decent season with Edmonton and one really good season with NJ, but he's a train wreck when it comes to back checking and creating turnovers that turn into scoring opportunities for the opposition.

Someone mentioned Craig Smith. I like that - good solid guy. Puts up consistent secondary scoring while playing a 200-foot game.

- WrySatyr


This isn't NHL20 -

Khudobin and Talbot gives you what the Flames have had for years, which is sheer mediocrity in net. You have to hope, in a tandem, that you are playing the right guy on the right night or you're (frank)ed.

Playing out your scenario -
Ryan and Rittch going saves you ~$6M
Khudobin and Talbot eat up $7.7 (we're only saving $1M here over Rittich & Markstrom btw - plus you now have 2 34/35 year old goalies signed to ages 37/38?
Krug @ $6.5 and Piet at, what, $8 (at least) absorbs another $14-16M

So $22-$24M in and $6M out? The Flames had $17M in cap space entering the day, so, in addition to saying goodbye to Ryan, would have had nothing left for Mangiapane or Kylington and would an insanely top heavy team lacking a qualified 3/4C, 2 bottom six wingers, a depth defenceman and their 2nd line RW and would have had to shed another contract.

Krug and Piet is not a dream, it's basically a giant puffy pink elephant riding a unicorn while on your morphine trip...
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 9 @ 10:49 PM ET
How's the mood in here.

Brodie out and overpaid a bit for Markstrom (at least re term).
Do you guys still have room for Hall or no?

- dbot


I think we are all pretty happy to get Markstrom but yes the term might end up smelling like the Luongo contract does in Vancouver. I dont think we were ever in on Hall as we have 6 LW as it is (Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Bennett, Dube, Lucic). Its more likely we trade one of those LW for a RW or RD and use our extra cap space to sign what we dont get in trade. Maybe trade JG for Dumba and then sign Toffoli & Stetcher.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Oct 9 @ 10:56 PM ET
This isn't NHL20 -

Khudobin and Talbot gives you what the Flames have had for years, which is sheer mediocrity in net. You have to hope, in a tandem, that you are playing the right guy on the right night or you're (frank)ed.

- rmull905


What kind of difference do you think Markstrom is going to make? Talbot and Khudobin both had better stats than Markstrom last year. Seems like it makes way more sense to have a solid team in front of the goalie. They're still a mediocre defensive team.

Markstrom has also faced a ton of shots over the past few years and had multiple injuries last year. The Flames will be lucky to get 60 games out of him.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 9 @ 10:57 PM ET
And we give 4 years and 4.5 million per year to Chris Tanev who can barely lace his own skates anymore. Let's hope he doesn't have a NMC and gets picked by Seattle.

Yikes, I hope Markstrom is ready for some rubber, because that D is gonna suuuuuck.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Oct 9 @ 11:06 PM ET
And we give 4 years and 4.5 million per year to Chris Tanev who can barely lace his own skates anymore. Let's hope he doesn't have a NMC and gets picked by Seattle.

Yikes, I hope Markstrom is ready for some rubber, because that D is gonna suuuuuck.

- redseerpf


This. This is the bad deal. $1.5 too high, 2 years too long.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 9 @ 11:06 PM ET
And we give 4 years and 4.5 million per year to Chris Tanev who can barely lace his own skates anymore. Let's hope he doesn't have a NMC and gets picked by Seattle.

Yikes, I hope Markstrom is ready for some rubber, because that D is gonna suuuuuck.

- redseerpf
I dont mind this signing at all 4 x 4.5 is decent value IMO. Now we gotta flip a LW for a heavy RW who can play and were in business!
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